Why is my faith not enough?

[Fervent]

He said do as they say but not as they do because they're hypocrites. But that doesn't mean I should obey false doctrine or join a church that doesn't train its people to follow Jesus. Jesus said not to worry about our life yet Republicans and democrats in the church fight over the economy. They complain and sow fear. The church shepherds see no problem with that. Well i do.

I don't know what churches you're visiting, but arguing over politics is a far different issue than engaging in 'divisive theology".

 

[soldier of light]

I don't know what churches you're visiting, but arguing over politics is a far different issue than engaging in 'divisive theology".

Any divisions is sin. We have one mind not many. People act united on Sunday but then the rest of the week they divide up into political factions and fight over things that God said not to even worry about. It's poor testimony for God because he's our supplier so if we complain or fight over the economy it dishonors him and shows an utter lack of understanding about faith in God.

 

[Fervent]

Any divisions is sin. We have one mind not many. People act united on Sunday but then the rest of the week they divide up into political factions and fight over things that God said not to even worry about. It's poor testimony for God because he's our supplier so if we complain or fight over the economy it dishonors him and shows an utter lack of understanding about faith in God.

Then why are you dividing yourself from the body of Christ? Do you think that you are the only one who the Holy Spirit is guiding? Diversity of opinion isn't necessarily division, division occurs when people imagine themselves the sole heirs of the Spirit. Political division is certainly an issue, but expecting perfection from fallible human beings earnestly living out their faith doesn't improve the situation. You complain about division, and then hypocritically position yourself as the judge of the whole of Christendom in the ultimate act of division.

 

[soldier of light]

Then why are you dividing yourself from the body of Christ? Do you think that you are the only one who the Holy Spirit is guiding? Diversity of opinion isn't necessarily division, division occurs when people imagine themselves the sole heirs of the Spirit. Political division is certainly an issue, but expecting perfection from fallible human beings earnestly living out their faith doesn't improve the situation. You complain about division, and then hypocritically position yourself as the judge of the whole of Christendom in the ultimate act of division.

I have social anxiety that's why I don't go to church. However if I join a church do you think that my opinion would be any more welcome there than it is here? Why should I join a church I dont agree with and that doesn't agree with me? Why is my faith not enough?

 

[soldier of light]

It's about holiness. I dont have any part with this world. Politics are worldly.

 

[Fervent]

I have social anxiety that's why I don't go to church. However if I join a church do you think that my opinion would be any more welcome there than it is here? Why should I join a church I dont agree with and that doesn't agree with me? Why is my faith not enough?

Do you think you and you alone have the Holy Spirit? Are you never in need of correction? Are we not admonished to confess our sins to one another? You speak of division, while cutting yourself off from Christ's body. How can you say you belong to Christ if you deny fellowship with His body?

 

[soldier of light]

Do you think you and you alone have the Holy Spirit? Are you never in need of correction? Are we not admonished to confess our sins to one another? You speak of division, while cutting yourself off from Christ's body. How can you say you belong to Christ if you deny fellowship with His body?

Correct me then. I repented so you wont find anything to Correct. Paul said a spiritual man is judged by no one but God. Paul said he cared little for human courts and so do I.

 

[timothyu]

How do we determine the extent of Jesus' commands without delving into the theological issues?

Because there was no extent. A simple two commandments. Put the will of God first and love all as self. What you expect from God, you first give to others.

 

[soldier of light]

Do you think you and you alone have the Holy Spirit? Are you never in need of correction? Are we not admonished to confess our sins to one another? You speak of division, while cutting yourself off from Christ's body. How can you say you belong to Christ if you deny fellowship with His body?

I'm not cut off from the body. The body is there to nurture us into spiritual maturity. Do you think you are nurturing me?

I don't need a teacher because I follow the holy spirit. That's wisdom. But please feel free to correct me.

 

[Fervent]

Correct me then. I repented so you wont find anything to Correct. Paul said a spiritual man is judged by no one but God. Paul said he cared little for human courts and so do I.

Sounds like you're setting yourself up as being perfect and without sin, as if you alone possess the Holy Spirit. I have pointed out your hypocrasy in this matter, as you are dividing yourself off from fellowship built on your misguided theology.

 

[timothyu]

Then why are you dividing yourself from the body of Christ?

Church is not necessarily the body of Christ. It is formula religion. Jesus' church were/are those who follow only the truth from God and not from man or man's interpretations. Jesus said there is only one teacher and He taught us two commandments that covers everything we need do.

 

[soldier of light]

Sounds like you're setting yourself up as being perfect and without sin, as if you alone possess the Holy Spirit. I have pointed out your hypocrasy in this matter, as you are dividing yourself off from fellowship built on your misguided theology.

It's not me refusing correction. It's the politics

 

[Fervent]

I'm not cut off from the body. The body is there to nurture us into spiritual maturity. Do you think you are nurturing me?

I don't need a teacher because I follow the holy spirit. That's wisdom. But please feel free to correct me.

I don't know what spirit you're following, but if it is leading you to isolate yourself from historic Christianity then it's not the Holy Spirit.

 

[soldier of light]

Church is not necessarily the body of Christ. It is formula religion. Jesus' church were/are those who follow only the truth from God and not from man or man's interpretations. Jesus said there is only one teacher and He taught us two commandments that covers everything we need do.

Some folks faith crumbles without the church. I dont blame them because it's blindness. I was forced to go alone and it opened my eyes. I try to do that for others but I get disliked

 

[soldier of light]

I don't know what spirit you're following, but if it is leading you to isolate yourself from historic Christianity then it's not the Holy Spirit.

I would be careful. I follow Jesus with all my heart.

 

[Fervent]

Church is not necessarily the body of Christ. It is formula religion. Jesus' church were/are those who follow only the truth from God and not from man or man's interpretations. Jesus said there is only one teacher and He taught us two commandments that covers everything we need do.

In my experience, those who reject traditional church institutions are far more often following their own prideful imaginings than sound doctrine. The Holy Spirit is a corporate gifting, rarely manifesting singularly.

 

[Jo555]

Im not here to bash anyone. But i have a question. Why do I need Catholicism, EO, or any church who claims to be the true church? I know the Lord's commands and i dont need the doctrines of catholicism or other churches. So why does anyone need it? Doesn’t it only divide us? Shouldn't we take a more simplistic approach in order to have one mind in Christ?

Of course. It really is simple. I'm very detailed. It is how God made me, but I know that simplicity is essential and sharpens the vision, and, it really is simple.

Some do provide a nice place to fellowship and grow, but when it overshadows the simplicity in Christ and draws our attention away from Him, big problem.

 

[soldier of light]

In my experience, those who reject traditional church institutions are far more often following their own prideful imaginings than sound doctrine. The Holy Spirit is a corporate gifting, rarely manifesting singularly.

Vicious wolves came in as Paul said. People no longer endure truth but follow teachers as Paul said.

 

[soldier of light]

Of course. It really is simple. I'm very detailed. It is how God made me, but I know that simplicity is essential and sharpens the vision, and, it really is simple.

Some do provide a nice place to fellowship and grow, but when it overshadows the simplicity in Christ and draws our attention away from Him, big problem.

I agree

 

[Fervent]

I would be careful. I follow Jesus with all my heart.

Do you think you and you alone have the truth?