Why is my faith not enough?

[soldier of light]

No but you do to understand man's religions.

I agree

 

[Jo555]

The reason for churches is to encourage us not to sin and to love each other. I have the holy spirit for that. I've grown up in Christ. If I go to church and preach against politics I won't be welcomed. So it's not me forsaking anything. Also, the church is divided over politics and thats not loving each other. Also no one teaches them to repent. So what can they possibly help me do?

1 cor 12:
12 Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized by[c] one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. 14 Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many.

15 Now if the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body. 16 And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body. 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? 18 But in fact God has placed the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be. 19 If they were all one part, where would the body be? 20 As it is, there are many parts, but one body.

21 The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” And the head cannot say to the feet, “I don’t need you!” 22 On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, 24 while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25 so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. 26 If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.

27 Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. 28 And God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues[d]? Do all interpret? 31 Now eagerly desire the greater gifts.

 

[soldier of light]

No but you do to understand man's religions.

People dont even know that they're kings themselves in the Kingdom of Jesus

 

[timothyu]

People dont even know that they're kings themselves

I would say they don't realize they are connected to God because they choose separation, even though it is a figment of their imagination..

 

[soldier of light]

1 cor 12:
12 Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized by[c] one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. 14 Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many.

15 Now if the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body. 16 And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body. 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? 18 But in fact God has placed the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be. 19 If they were all one part, where would the body be? 20 As it is, there are many parts, but one body.

21 The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” And the head cannot say to the feet, “I don’t need you!” 22 On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, 24 while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25 so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. 26 If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.

27 Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. 28 And God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues[d]? Do all interpret? 31 Now eagerly desire the greater gifts.

The problem is that this scripture doesn't necessarily criticize me. I'm not the one rejecting the truth and causing divisions. I'm the one warning about divisions. You might say I'm the part of the body that warns people and I get rejected. No one needs me.

 

[Jo555]

Roma

The problem is that this scripture doesn't necessarily criticize me. I'm not the one rejecting the truth and causing divisions. I'm the one warning about divisions. You might say I'm the part of the body that warns people and I get rejected. No one needs me.

Ok. Apparently I'm not following you. I thought it was simple, but appears not so much.

God bless you. Keep living for Jesus.

 

[soldier of light]

Roma

Ok. Apparently I'm not following you. I thought it was simple, but appears not so much.

God bless you. Keep living for Jesus.

Ok run away. No one needs me.

 

[soldier of light]

I'm just a set eyeballs and a mouth perhaps. Or not. I dont much care what I am. I'm free and that makes me very happy.

 

[Jo555]

Ok run away. No one needs me.

The body needs you, but it appears that you are the one stating you don't need the body.

 

[soldier of light]

The body needs you, but it appears that you are the one stating you don't need the body.

What I'm saying is that the churches already have eyes and a mouth and I won't be welcomed. Also I have social anxiety so I'm forced to go alone, but it opened my eyes and has been a blessing.

 

[soldier of light]

Like Paul blinded and then being cured and spending time learning from Jesus. That's me. I'm no apostle of course and I'm no Paul either, but that's me. Jesus taught me.

 

[soldier of light]

Jesus can teach anyone. That's what my eyes see in scripture

 

[soldier of light]

Who has the ears in the body? I wonder if I have ears too?

Revelation 3:21 To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne. 22 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”

 

[Jo555]

Like Paul blinded and then being cured and spending time learning from Jesus. That's me. I'm no apostle of course and I'm no Paul either, but that's me. Jesus taught me.

I hear you. We all must learn from Him and hear from Him for ourselves, but He also does use people too there. We just need to let Him confirm their word to us.

And isolate with God, or assemble with brethren is not to be made into a doctrine that we must follow rigidly. We understand the value in each and let his Spirit lead us in regards to that.

He's taken me aside plenty for aline time in studying his Word and growth. It's been the times of my best education and especially revelation.

Remember, even Paul said we see in part, and prophesy in part, but what will remain is faith, hope, and love. The greatest being love.

 

[Jo555]

Jesus can teach anyone. That's what my eyes see in scripture

Jesus can teach anyone. That's what my eyes see in scripture

No one is denying that, but you apparently lack in understanding the role of the units working as a body and as this seems to be going no where, good night.

 

[soldier of light]

Matthew 13:16 But blessed are your eyes for they see, and your ears for they hear; 17 for assuredly, I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.

18 “Therefore hear the parable of the sower:

22 Now he who received seed among the thorns is he who hears the word, and the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful.

 

[soldier of light]

I hear you. We all must learn from Him and hear from Him for ourselves, but He also does use people too there. We just need to let Him confirm their word to us.

And isolate with God, or assemble with brethren is not to be made into a doctrine that we must follow rigidly. We understand the value in each and let his Spirit lead us in regards to that.

He's taken me aside plenty for aline time in studying his Word and growth. It's been the times of my best education and especially revelation.

Remember, even Paul said we see in part, and prophesy in part, but what will remain is faith, hope, and love. The greatest being love.

Thanks

 

[soldier of light]

No one is denying that, but you apparently lack in understanding the role of the units working as a body and as this seems to be going no where, good night.

No, I understand what Paul said. But I'm not an infant anymore. I studied for years to find God's will. I dont believe attending a fallible church is commanded or advised.

 

[soldier of light]

God used Paul and John while they were in prison. You play the hand that you're dealt

 

[soldier of light]

It's funny because here we have an opportunity to learn from each other but no one ever learns anything.