Why is mandatory vaccination ok for kids, but not adults?

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One thing I think of is that children are young, maybe not ready to make certain decisions. But an adult might know the ins and outs of something, but still decide against what is commonly considered to be best. But the adult has certain rights a child does not have.

An adult may decide to smoke, though this can hurt the person and even the smoker's children; yet, it is legal. But the government steps in in order to protect children from making the bad choice of smoking.

So, yes adults can make bad but legal choices. So . . . then . . . ones could decide not to let adults make choices for children, in case a parent would make a wrong vaccination choice. The government people might find themselves to be right, in this matter; and so they feel they must protect the children from potential bad parenting.

Of course, there is the question of if the government people themselves can make good choices :)

Also . . . it can be that kids in school will be exposing to many more others, than adults might be doing if they have fewer people around them . . . in church, at work, at home. So, it can be how children will have more opportunity, in general, to become spreaders. So, this could be a belief behind certain government people's decisions.

Each person can be different, therefore having different reasoning, in any case. And what can have an interesting effect is if a person has correct information or not :) And right now we have a political civil war in the United States, in my opinion. And lying is considered a fair-game tactic of war. So, in the mix of all this stuff, is the issue of if anyone knowingly has been lying and who has told us the truth. And there are ones who are not trying to get reliable sources of information, because that is no concern to them, since their objective is only to make certain politicians look bad.

So, I understand that God can guide a person according to what He knows is really true.
 
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The government is under the authority of Christ the King. It isn’t a good government if it’s going against Christ.
The government is under the authority of Christ the King.
vs
It isn’t a good government if it’s going against Christ.

Sorry, I don't see how both statements can be correct.

How can a government under Christ's authority go against Christ?
 
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The government is under the authority of Christ the King.
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It isn’t a good government if it’s going against Christ.

Sorry, I don't see how both statements can be correct.

How can a government under Christ's authority go against Christ?
The same way that you can sin.
 
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The same way that you can sin.
I see your point. He doesn't always intervene to keep you from sinning. So can we say that Christ chooses many times not to enforce his authority?
 
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I see your point. He doesn't always intervene to keep you from sinning. So can we say that Christ chooses many times not to enforce his authority?
Sometimes He exercises His authority by leaving people to themselves. I think that Romans 1 and Genesis 50:20 would apply here.
 
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Sometimes He exercises His authority by leaving people to themselves. I think that Romans 1 and Genesis 50:20 would apply here.
I agree, so you are saying He does the same thing with governments?
 
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I agree, so you are saying He does the same thing with governments?
Since He has all authority, and since we haven’t gotten the the point where all governments are in line with His will, I’d say yes.
 
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The government is under the authority of Christ the King. It isn’t a good government if it’s going against Christ.
Oh...like the arrest, persecution, and crucifixion is now against the Fathers will?

It's so odd that so many oppose what Jesus said. They just don't want it to be true.
 
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my body my choice.
ha I've waited forever to be able to say that, felt gggggrrreat.

exactly!
I choose not be in hospital and/or pass away from covid
I choose not to have alzheimer brain chances due to covid
I choose not to have long haul covid
I choose for my teen to stay healthy, also

happy to be a vaccinated family
 
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Oh...like the arrest, persecution, and crucifixion is now against the Fathers will?

It's so odd that so many oppose what Jesus said. They just don't want it to be true.
You keep responding to my posts, but I have no idea what your points are.
 
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The government is under the authority of Christ the King. It isn’t a good government if it’s going against Christ.

The government is under the authority of Christ the King. - How so?

It isn’t a good government if it’s going against Christ. - How so?
if so then what is you response to "Bad" government?
 
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Are not Canadian lawmakers subject to the Canadian Constitution? Paul can be difficult to understand. Perhaps Pastor Chuck Baldwin can shed some light on this subject:
Romans Chapter 13

Thanks. Chuck is deceived. Half of his examples were incorrect. The other half are ones I will need to research. Once you take a stand like his, you have to justify your position. And Chuck grasped at straws to build up his list and messed up. When Peter and the disciples continued preaching in the streets, they weren't defying the local secular government. They were defying the leaders of the church who demanded they stop preaching of Jesus. But hey, everyone gets that one backwards because they refuse to believe what it says.

Are Canadian lawmakers subject to the Canadian Constitution?

Is this the Canadian Constitution? It's made up of trucks?
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Thanks. Chuck is deceived. Half of his examples were incorrect.

What examples do you believe are incorrect; and why do you believe that they are incorrect?

The other half are ones I will need to research.

I would encourage you to do that.

Once you take a stand like his, you have to justify your position

Stand up like what?

Chuck grasped at straws to build up his list and messed up.

He do you believe that he messed up?

When Peter and the disciples continued preaching in the streets, they weren't defying the local secular government.

You quoted Paul. Let's start with Paul.

Why was almost half of Paul's ministry spent in and out of prison?
 
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What examples do you believe are incorrect; and why do you believe that they are incorrect?

Acts 5:29
But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.


Peter was telling the church leaders that they had no authority because his actions were not against local law.
 
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If you are not worried about the death of you child, that's OK.
What a remarkably hyperbolic, foolish and insensitive thing to say.

Just be aware that other parents are worried.

Yes, you are correct. If there's one thing this pandemic has taught us it is that most people have no idea how to accurately assess risks.

And a mask doesn't stop the Virus from getting in.
A mask helps to keep globs of your spit from getting out.

Apparently you've been misinformed. COVID is transmitted primarily by aerosols, which your mask doesn't stop.

So your mask is to protect others.

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You know what else would protect others from your droplets? Covering your mouth when you sneeze.
 
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But they don't all believe in masks or vaccines.
Just listen to yourself; They "don't ... believe in". Masks and vaccines have become a new religion. Just click your heels and believe!
 
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You know what else would protect others from your droplets? Covering your mouth when you sneeze.

If you believe that, then we have no common ground for dialogue.
It only take 20 seconds to research reality.
 
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