Why is it a sin to be in an interracial relationship?

[Vicomte13]

Untrue. The anti-Miscegenation position was and remains biblically based. You may not like or agree with the biblical interpretations that were so commonly used but there are people who don't like or agree with the biblical interpretations used against SSM.

The anti-miscegenation position is only "Biblically-based" when the people reading the Bible are illiterate. It's not there. Mean, stupid bigots see it there because they want it to be there, so they make it up. Which means that it's a lie and they are servants of Satan for making up a lie about what is in the Bible, and using it to encourage hatred.

It is nothing more than that, and never was. The men who made those arguments were evil and stupid, and to defend them today is ridiculous - and deserving of ridicule. It is not an intellectually or religiously defensible position. It is an argument straight from Satan's mind and mouth, nothing more.

 

[Vicomte13]

It is not a sin to be in an interracial relationship. Anyone who says that it is is wrong.

And anybody who teaches that it is BIBLICAL is Satanic. Full stop.

 

[Invalidusername]

Of course, you're ignorant of any of the available Latin histories and your prefer to remain ignorant, claiming in your ignorance that there is no evidence.

Then settle for the two biblical archetypes: Keturah, the Cushite brought into the Israelites and the Cushite official of Candace brought into the Body of Christ. Those archetypes prove the point.

>claims I'm ignorant
>does not bother presenting evidence

Also I already said that it isn't a sin so I don't know why you're preaching to me. I just said it isn't optimal and not God's design.

Find some other sap to brainwash your diversity ideas on. I've spent my entire early years being indoctrinated with SJW ideas and "diversity for diversity's sake" and the Lord saved me from that hellhole of white-guilt and self loathing that the SJWs want you to have about your race. I'm out.

 

[marineimaging]

Just something I’ve been wondering, I’ve heard it many times it’s a sin to be in one, but have never really heard any reason or purpose why.

I am trying to stay focused on your question and not get caught up in petty arguments. But first, marrying a person with whom you are equally yoked is spoken of in a positive light. But, throughout the Bible which is our reference material we know that men will mix verses out of context in order to fit their notion of wisdom. In the instance of Nehemiah 13 we see there being a proclamation of sorts that the Jew was to avoid marrying outside the race and then points to Solomon's sinning as the result of mingling with "outlandish women". From statements like this you can imagine that people looking for any level of condemnation to support their cause (or prejudice) might conclude that any marriage outside of your race is going to be considered a sin.
23 In those days also saw I Jews [that] had married wives of Ashdod, of Ammon, [and] of Moab:

24 And their children spake half in the speech of Ashdod, and could not speak in the Jews' language, but according to the language of each people.

25 And I contended with them, and cursed them, and smote certain of them, and plucked off their hair, and made them swear by God, [saying], Ye shall not give your daughters unto their sons, nor take their daughters unto your sons, or for yourselves.

26 Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? yet among many nations was there no king like him, who was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did outlandish women cause to sin.

27 Shall we then hearken unto you to do all this great evil, to transgress against our God in marrying strange wives?

 

[Archivist]

>claims I'm ignorant
>does not bother presenting evidence

Also I already said that it isn't a sin so I don't know why you're preaching to me. I just said it isn't optimal and not God's design.

Find some other sap to brainwash your diversity ideas on. I've spent my entire early years being indoctrinated with SJW ideas and "diversity for diversity's sake" and the Lord saved me from that hellhole of white-guilt and self loathing that the SJWs want you to have about your race. I'm out.

Treating people equally, which includes allowing interracial marriage, is hardly limited to social justice warriors.

I have a cousin who is married to a woman who is of Asian descent. They make a wonderful couple.

 

[SeekingServant]

Believe whatever you want kiddo.

Same to you.

 

[Invalidusername]

Treating people equally, which includes allowing interracial marriage, is hardly limited to social justice warriors.

I have a cousin who is married to a woman who is of Asian descent. They make a wonderful couple.

Never said anything about treating people unequally.

Nice anecdotal "evidence".

 

[Invalidusername]

Same to you.

Sick burn. I'm gonna need some skin grafts now.

 

[Archivist]

Never said anything about treating people unequally.

Nice anecdotal "evidence".

Your statement was that interracial marriage is not God’s design. Saying that it is acceptable to marry someone if your race but not of another race is treating that race unequally.

 

[Invalidusername]

Your statement was that interracial marriage is not God’s design. Saying that it is acceptable to marry someone if your race but not of another race is treating that race unequally.

I think you need to reread my posts. What part of IT IS NOT A SIN don't you understand?

I don't have to agree with your concepts 100% and I have a right to my opinion. Bug off and stop trying to "covert me".

 

[RDKirk]

I am trying to stay focused on your question and not get caught up in petty arguments. But first, marrying a person with whom you are equally yoked is spoken of in a positive light. But, throughout the Bible which is our reference material we know that men will mix verses out of context in order to fit their notion of wisdom. In the instance of Nehemiah 13 we see there being a proclamation of sorts that the Jew was to avoid marrying outside the race and then points to Solomon's sinning as the result of mingling with "outlandish women".

That's not race, that's nationality, particularly religion.

 

[DamianWarS]

Just something I’ve been wondering, I’ve heard it many times it’s a sin to be in one, but have never really heard any reason or purpose why.

it may have it's challenges but it certainly isn't sinful

 

[RDKirk]

it may have it's challenges but it certainly isn't sinful

Just being Christian is supposed to have challenges.

 

[marineimaging]

That's not race, that's nationality, particularly religion.

With all due respect sir, I am fully aware of what is what. Not everybody is though and confuse the issues when reading scripture. So, I reiterate..., "we know that men will mix verses out of context in order to fit their notion of wisdom." Mixing verses includes not knowing the difference between race and religion which still confuses people to this day.

 

[DamianWarS]

Just being Christian is supposed to have challenges.

as is being a non-christian

 

[DamianWarS]

With all due respect sir, I am fully aware of what is what. Not everybody is though and confuse the issues when reading scripture. So, I reiterate..., "we know that men will mix verses out of context in order to fit their notion of wisdom." Mixing verses includes not knowing the difference between race and religion which still confuses people to this day.

this is because religious followings often have unique ties to specific cultures/regions which have specific races. Picture a Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, Animist, etc... I'm pretty sure what people see in their heads has a racial identify associated with these religions. And this is not completely false because often their blanket associations are the result of dominate or strong influence from specific regions of the world.

This can become an issue in marriage because 2 Christians from different cultures will have counter-gospel influences from outside systems that are unique to their culture and then they come together they will mix. Americans may have to fight against individualism where perhaps a person from another culture/region, although still christian, may have animistic influences which may cause them to approach situations in an animistic way and could hinder their walk with Christ (as American individualism can). For example a tree falls in America and no one thinks anything about it, perhaps it sets up some philosophical debate as to who heard but that's about it. If a tree falls in a dominate animistic region then it often will have a supernatural reason associated with it's falling that a Christian may interpret as demons or something wrong in their life. This in turn could make them feel like they are being punished or that they need to pray harder, tithe more, go to church more, etc... to correct this spiritual imbalance. It's an animistic influenced Christian reaction and it can be counter-gospel.

We all carry conter-gospel values that are inherent in our culture, the question is, is it healthy to mix these and is it a legitimate "equally yoked" problem? This is less of a racial identity and more of a cultural identity but race and culture are overlapping systems. I think marriage with another race takes unique individuals and it should not be taken lightly but it should not be condemned.

 

[marineimaging]

this is because religious followings often have unique ties to specific cultures/regions which have specific races. Picture a Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, Animist, etc... I'm pretty sure what people see in their heads has a racial identify associated with these religions. And this is not completely false because often their blanket associations are the result of dominate or strong influence from specific regions of the world.

This can become an issue in marriage because 2 Christians from different cultures will have counter-gospel influences from outside systems that are unique to their culture and then they come together they will mix. Americans may have to fight against individualism where perhaps a person from another culture/region, although still christian, may have animistic influences which may cause them to approach situations in an animistic way and could hinder their walk with Christ (as American individualism can). For example a tree falls in America and no one thinks anything about it, perhaps it sets up some philosophical debate as to who heard but that's about it. If a tree falls in a dominate animistic region then it often will have a supernatural reason associated with it's falling that a Christian may interpret as demons or something wrong in their life. This in turn could make them feel like they are being punished or that they need to pray harder, tithe more, go to church more, etc... to correct this spiritual imbalance. It's an animistic influenced Christian reaction and it can be counter-gospel.

We all carry conter-gospel values that are inherent in our culture, the question is, is it healthy to mix these and is it a legitimate "equally yoked" problem? This is less of a racial identity and more of a cultural identity but race and culture are overlapping systems. I think marriage with another race takes unique individuals and it should not be taken lightly but it should not be condemned.

First, I love and respect my parents and grandparents and all of what I am about to say is long and past. Understanding the unequally yoked marriage. (Never think you are going to marry someone and then change them) I grew up with a mother who tackled every doctrine of Christianity from week to week or month to month. I had to ask what my dad what he believed when I was about 14 because I had never heard a word from him about where he was spiritually. I was shocked to find that he believed that every living thing had a soul and should be treated as such and that he didn't believe in Jesus. I learned to my dismay that dad thought that souls were attached to bugs, and trees, wild and domestic animals, dogs, (not cats. He hated cats) horses, birds, anything alive. Meanwhile Mom was raised with strong catholic influence early on and then later we went through Baptist, Non-denominational, LDS, JW, CofC, Pentecostal, back to Baptist - back to Pentecostal. One weekend all the meals were prepared on Saturday to eat on Sunday and we were forced to just rest on Sunday. Then the sabbath was on Saturday but Sunday was shut down to Blue laws so we did nothing on the weekends. I mean, if it knocked on our door we were in for another round of some sort of ritualistic hodge podge. Meanwhile my dad sat back doing what he wanted and not saying a thing. At the same time one grandmother was bipolar and never said a word about her religious beliefs and the other was an alcoholic Baptist to the core - all the while my alcoholic non-believing grandfather worked into his 70's and spent the weekend watching baseball and drinking beer or attending a Masonic function with the funny hat and crescent moon and tassel - unless grandmother talked him into going to church where I also later learned he felt comfortable in going only because he knew none of his Masonic brothers would be there. So, talk about not being able to find firm footing in my early days. Still, I knew who God was and I believed in Jesus and I gave my soul to the Lord at the age of 13 and did it with absolute conviction. So I know what you mean about animistic influences and yes, you can have two Christians who are just as unequally yoked (Both seemed to have the idea that they were going to eventually change the other into believing their way. Right? NOT!) on the inside. At the same time mixed race marriage can appear to be unequally yoked on the outside but perfectly matched in the home and heart. Still, a mixed race marriage can be problematic in that neither community (race) tends to want to claim the offspring. While we are getting more tolerant in Europe and America I can tell you that as a people we still have intolerance in each and every country and that intolerance has become stronger as we also become more divided. But since the question is in reference to it being a sin, is it a sin to marry knowing you are going to take the family down a very difficult path, even today?

 

[Vicomte13]

Still, a mixed race marriage can be problematic in that neither community (race) tends to want to claim the offspring. While we are getting more tolerant in Europe and America I can tell you that as a people we still have intolerance in each and every country and that intolerance has become stronger as we also become more divided. But since the question is in reference to it being a sin, is it a sin to marry knowing you are going to take the family down a very difficult path, even today?

You gave quite a bit of personal background there. Thank you for that. I will give you my own experience on this very subject.

I'm a white guy, from the Midwest. My wife is a black woman, from the French West Indies. Our daughter is, therefore, mixed race. In a quarter-century of marriage, and 17 years of raising a child, it has simply never been much of an issue.

We've encountered the tiniest bit of racism, on the very fringes, directed at us for a few moments by some fat, dumb white guys out in the Midwestern countryside, and by some [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]y old black racist women on a subway platform in Harlem. This constituted a grand total of perhaps 4 minutes of total experience in twenty-five years.

My daughter manages to annoy some people by having her own ideas about everything, and not caring a fig about what people are "supposed" to be, or think.

Truth is, it is simply not hard to live as a mixed-race couple, or mixed-race child, in educated, prosperous America. I suspect, but don't know for sure, that the further down the socio-economic scale one goes, the stupider and more bigoted people might be - certainly the people who gave us a hard time were exemplars of low-class, low-education dumb-***es. So, when they said what they said, what they got back was the cold stares of us, their socio-economic superiors, looking down our rich noses at them with full contempt for everything about them that was beneath us. In other words: yes, she's black, I'm white, and you're dumb and poor, get out of our faces you idiots.

Because really in America money talks. If you study in school you can succeed no matter where you started, and once you do, you don't have to live with morons any more, whose only claim to self-respect is that they think the pigment of their skin means something. The fact they think it does actually DOES mean something: they're lower class folks who can go rot somewhere.

That's really the truth. If you use the education you were given, you don't have to live with people like that anymore. And really, it is not at all hard to live very nicely in America as a mixed race couple, or a mixed race child. The people full of hate are dimwitted, and they end up living together in wretched places, and you don't have deal with them at all.

When we travel down South, particularly in the more rural areas, people in the diners and hotels bend over backwards to be nice to us, to show they're NOT bigoted. When you're in an interracial marriage in America, you frequently get treated with kid gloves precisely BECAUSE people are worried about being offensive.

And in truth, the whole novelty about being a "different race" wears off in a year or two, and you don't even think about it at all unless somebody brings it up, which they really don't.

 

[RDKirk]

this is because religious followings often have unique ties to specific cultures/regions which have specific races. Picture a Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, Animist, etc... I'm pretty sure what people see in their heads has a racial identify associated with these religions. And this is not completely false because often their blanket associations are the result of dominate or strong influence from specific regions of the world.

This can become an issue in marriage because 2 Christians from different cultures will have counter-gospel influences from outside systems that are unique to their culture and then they come together they will mix. Americans may have to fight against individualism where perhaps a person from another culture/region, although still christian, may have animistic influences which may cause them to approach situations in an animistic way and could hinder their walk with Christ (as American individualism can). For example a tree falls in America and no one thinks anything about it, perhaps it sets up some philosophical debate as to who heard but that's about it. If a tree falls in a dominate animistic region then it often will have a supernatural reason associated with it's falling that a Christian may interpret as demons or something wrong in their life. This in turn could make them feel like they are being punished or that they need to pray harder, tithe more, go to church more, etc... to correct this spiritual imbalance. It's an animistic influenced Christian reaction and it can be counter-gospel.

We all carry conter-gospel values that are inherent in our culture, the question is, is it healthy to mix these and is it a legitimate "equally yoked" problem? This is less of a racial identity and more of a cultural identity but race and culture are overlapping systems. I think marriage with another race takes unique individuals and it should not be taken lightly but it should not be condemned.

So, then we have white Jim Smith who was raised in Plano TX, goes to First Baptist church in Plano TX, attended Plano High School, went to SMU. We have black June Brown, who was raised in Plano TX, goes to Mt Moriah Baptist church in Plano TX, attended Plano High School, went to SMU.

Any problem with them getting married?

 

[DamianWarS]

So, then we have white Jim Smith who was raised in Plano TX, goes to First Baptist church in Plano TX, attended Plano High School, went to SMU. We have black June Brown, who was raised in Plano TX, goes to Mt Moriah Baptist church in Plano TX, attended Plano High School, went to SMU.

Any problem with them getting married?

that is a complex answer but regardless if their geographies are the same they probably still carry different sociological backgrounds that are intrinsic to their race/culture but different to each other. this doesn't have to be racism but simply cultural differences that may have very different world views. I certainly wouldn't condemn it or call it sinful, if their hearts are in the right place (not just fixed on each other but fixed on God) then more power to them.