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He does not appear to participate in any of the threads he starts. Probably doing a research project.Did MCKeehan ever come back on this thread after he started the "list".
Just wondering the reason.........
I will repeat my previous statement: You just follow what you believe is right. And I will do the same.
Well, sure. Every one of us on this forum speaks on our own authority. But do you expect that other LDS will agree that you would have to give up God to accept the Restored Gospel? My guess is that we'll find 100% of LDS in agreement that you wouldn't have to. We worship God, not nothing.
I take it you are refusing to answer my question. The qustion was not what do you think I should do? If it was your answer would be more acceptable. Instead of asking what I should do, I asked you, "Would I have to give up God?"
I just mean that I speak for myself. Not for my Church. Not for God. And this applies to all of us who participate in the forum.Hi,
1. I understand I hope, what you mean by your own authority.
It is my opinion that we wouldn't. I can't see any LDS person agreeing with the idea that you'd have to give up God to accept the Restored Gospel.2. You are my only reference so far and LDS, so I have no idea or ideas on what they would think or say, about me having to give up God, to accept the Restored Gospel.
3. I understand that you think, that I would not find any difference in 100% of the LDS, adherants.
No. It just seems a reasonable basis for the question you raised.4. I understand that you say, that you worship God, and not nothing. I never said your god, is not nothing though. Have others said this to you?
I have answered this question. No, you would not have to give up God.Next on why I do not really believe in God. I will also touch on why I don't believe in the Christian Bible.
1.) I don't believe in the Christian God, because, I beyond that. I know He is real, as much as I know you are real, if I had met you in person, for years and years. I do not believe in God, as I cannot believe in something that is Real.
2. The Bible for me is the same, as my Fact of God. I know the Bible as fact, and I do not believe in that book, as I know it is Real, and I have the 10 year proof still for anyone to try.
My question to you, is a little more profound and a lot more factual, than most belief systems. I am asking you, and you have responded. To you on your own authority as a person, I would have to give up my incorrect beliefs, and my faith in the doctrines of men.
Now God is neither a doctrine of men in my life, nor is He a belief. He is just what He Is, and that is God.
Would I have to give up God, would I to belong to your religion?
LOVE,
...Katherina., .... .
Thank you. I disagree that you would have to give up God to accept the Restored Gospel. We are not a Godless people. We worship God, like you do.
I know where you stand on this issue. You really needn't keep reminding me.See, there it is.
You do not worship God as we do. We worship a Mighty God Who has always existed, before there was matter, before there was time, itself. He was never a man, He never needed to be exalted, because He always was, is now, and forever will be God. He doesn't need a wife to be God. I have tried...oh how I have tried...to find words in these threads to tell of the Awesome Majesty that is God...but there are no words I know.
The god you worship was once a man. He was born, like any other man, helpless and tiny, needing to be fed, and changed, and bathed, and all the care a baby needs...he grew up like any other child...he matured and married...and eventually, he died...and the god of his world exalted him.
Now, you may believe with all your heart in that god, and even believe that he is the Christian god.
But he is not the same God worshiped by most of the Christian world. Saying that he is will not make it so.
That is not the message of the First Vision.
I know where you stand on this issue. You really needn't keep reminding me.
I sent you a link to it several days ago. I guess you didn't read it.I'm still kinda vague on the first vision. No one seems to want to tell me much about it.
What is the message of the first vision?
I'm still kinda vague on the first vision. No one seems to want to tell me much about it.
What is the message of the first vision?
You do not worship God as we do. We worship a Mighty God Who has always existed, before there was matter, before there was time, itself. He was never a man, He never needed to be exalted, because He always was, is now, and forever will be God. He doesn't need a wife to be God. I have tried...oh how I have tried...to find words in these threads to tell of the Awesome Majesty that is God...but there are no words I know.
The god you worship was once a man. He was born, like any other man, helpless and tiny, needing to be fed, and changed, and bathed, and all the care a baby needs...he grew up like any other child...he matured and married...and eventually, he died...and the god of his world exalted him.
You may take it any way you want.
I don't know how a person would "Give up God" unless it had to do with changing your views of the nature of God and your understanding of His word. In that case, you have already indicated that you have never followed the doctrines of men. As such, you should do what you believe is right and that would mean you did not give up God.
Which means I did answer your question. I'm not sure what else you were expecting.
Hi,
Just got back home. Interesting. I would not have to give up God. By the way, I define doctrines of men as, only thise items that are not Biblical, and also are in disagreement with the Bible. Is that waht you mean by thise words. Sorry, but I have not ever heard that term before, and took you quite literally, Was I correct in using a literal interpretation, without asking you first? I would say no, but I didn't think about it til just now.
LOVE,
...Katherina., .... .
I just mean that I speak for myself. Not for my Church. Not for God. And this applies to all of us who participate in the forum.
It is my opinion that we wouldn't. I can't see any LDS person agreeing with the idea that you'd have to give up God to accept the Restored Gospel.
No. It just seems a reasonable basis for the question you raised.
I have answered this question. No, you would not have to give up God.
I sent you a link to it several days ago. I guess you didn't read it.
https://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1?lang=eng
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