Why did McCarthy Give Tucker Carlson Exclusive Access to J6 Footage?

[durangodawood]

...Good grief, wake up to yourselves...

Im not hopeful. People dont like to think they were intellectually a party to chaos, crimes, and dissolution. Better to double down on the delusion.

 

[USincognito]

What to know about the Tucker Carlson January 6 footage​

For an alternative view:

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More like an alternative universe.

 

[USincognito]

Projection at it's finest!

There goes my irony meter.

Liz Cheney and her friends at the Jan. 6th show cherry-picked video footage to create a false narrative to prosecute and imprison people for speaking out. But now that all of the video footage has been released and can be seen by everyone, it is now clear that the police at the capitol we're escorting people into the building and even opening doors to allow them in.

The police escorting Mr. Chansley out of the building after the dust had settled doesn't change a thing about what took place in the three hours before then. There is no video of police "allowing" rioters in. There is, however, hours of video where police are engaged in Medieval combat trying to defend the Capitol from Donald's minions.

Even Brian sicknick (sic) was seen doing this during the time he was supposedly no longer alive.

I don't know if this talking point comes from, but it was probably part of Tucker's monologue. I would have been insipid in June 2021. It's just downright dumb in Mar 2023.

And the Q Anon shaman who was supposedly such a violent person,

Who claimed he was a violent person? Citation needed.

was seen calmly walking with the police and not doing anything wrong. Now he sits in prison for about four years because the video that shows him doing nothing wrong was concealed by the "investigators".

Those of us who actually know what happened know that police confronted Chansley and others in the Senate Chamber and, in an effort to deescalate, asked them to vacate the premises. At first they refused, but eventually they complied. The video Tucker aired shows him being escorted out of the building.

As for his sentence, he was very clearly guilty of the crime with which he was charged 18 USC § 1505, obstruction of proceedings. Heck, just occupying the Senate chamber and sitting in the President's chair was enough for that.

18 U.S. Code § 1505 - Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees

www.law.cornell.edu

>> Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both. <<

 

[essentialsaltes]

Senate Republicans blast Tucker Carlson’s Jan. 6 narrative​

“It was a mistake, in my view, for Fox News to depict this in a way that’s completely at variance with what our chief law enforcement official here in the Capitol thinks,” [Mitch] McConnell told reporters.

Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.), once a vocal supporter of former president Donald Trump who has consistently denounced the attack, was blunt in his assessment of Carlson’s narrative: “To somehow put [Jan. 6] in the same category as a permitted peaceful protest is just a lie.”

Sen. Mike Rounds (R-S.D.) agreed that a wide distribution of the video would have been better and echoed his colleagues, saying: “I was there on Jan. 6. I saw what happened. It clearly was violent. It was an insurrection.”

“I was there Jan. 6. It was not peaceful, it was an abomination,” Sen. John Neely Kennedy (R-La.), who did not watch the Carlson show, told reporters Tuesday. “And there’s no way to pretty it up.”

 

[iluvatar5150]

Projection at it's finest! Liz Cheney and her friends at the Jan. 6th show cherry-picked video footage to create a false narrative to prosecute and imprison people for speaking out.

Are there any right-wing criminals for whom you won’t make excuses? First James Alex Fields was defending himself, now the Jan 6 rioters were simply “speaking out”. Where’s the line? Is Putin’s war too far?

But now that all of the video footage has been released

It has? To whom other than Tucker?

Even Brian sicknick was seen doing this during the time he was supposedly no longer alive.

Sicknick died on the evening of the 7th. Did Carlson release video from the 8th? If so, that would explain why it was so peaceful.

 

[Hans Blaster]

And the Q Anon shaman who was supposedly such a violent person, was seen calmly walking with the police and not doing anything wrong. Now he sits in prison for about four years because the video that shows him doing nothing wrong was concealed by the "investigators".

Let's talk about Jacob Chansley, since this part of the Tucker report is one of the most deceptive.

0. His sentence was 41 months (3 years, 5 months). Since he has been jailed continuously since his initial arrest the weekend after the attack (he was hard to miss) he should be released late this year when he competes 85% of his sentence. (The federal standard for good behavior release.)

Now his basic timeline inside the Capitol:

1. He is one of the first 50 people (of over 3000) to enter. Entering about 1 minute after the initial breach.

2. Shortly after entry he is part of a long duration (but non-violent) stand off with USCP officers outside the Senate chamber. You've seen photos of this stand off certainly.

3. After leaving the "stand-off" area he proceeds up the steps and enters the Senate Gallery.

4. A few minutes later he goes back down the stairs and enters the Senate Chamber itself, proceeding to the dias. (As I noted in a post many months ago, he is followed by a police officer from the gallery to the Chamber. The officer then tries (by himself) to convince Chansley and the others to vacate the chamber. Eventually a dozen or more officers show up.)

5. After leaving the Senate Chamber, he exits the building.

Tucker's "Police escort remix" deliberately edits out the time stamps. (The security footage all is labeled and time stamped in frame. The only reason it is not visibile in the Fox version is that Tucker has removed it.) We do not know exactly *when* the "escort" footage is from. Is it during the ~25 minutes of the "stand-off"? (Does he wander off during it, particularly when the crowd dwindles?) Is it when he is looking for the chamber and enters the gallery? (#3 above) Is it as he leaves the gallery and heads down to the chamber below? (We know he was followed by police.) Is it after he leaves the chamber?

Because Chansley plead guilty, there was no trial and the DOJ prosecutors did not put all of the footage of him in the Capitol into the record where we would see it.

A quick "Shaman" time line was thrown together by an online investigator. Her twitter handle is OSINTYeti

Chansley timeline Google Doc

At 2:13:30 PM, Chansley enters the ground floor of the Senate wing through a door opened by a rioter who'd entered through a smashed window (the first breach) less than 1 minute earlier.

By 2:16:40 (2m50s later) he has joined the back of a crowd of 20-30 intruders confronted by a line of police. This takes place on the main floor (2nd floor) of the Capitol. The police have their backs to the entrance to the Senate Chamber in the distance. In the intervening 3 minutes was the infamous chase of the guy in the black "Q" shirt of USCP Officer Goodman up the stairs. Most of those in this stand off were part of that chase and entered through the same breach at the same time. This includes the person who knocked out that window that started the breach.

At 2:41-2:42 PM, Chansley is still in the same location though the crowd has dwindled. I do not know if he spent the entire 25 minutes in that corridor or if he wandered off.

At 2:49, he climbs the stairs to the 3rd floor.

At about 2:52 he enters the gallery of the Senate (accessed from the 3rd floor). At 2:55 he is spotted by a reporter in the gallery.

He then leaves the gallery, fails to heed a police instruction to leave and enters the floor of the Senate after going back down to the 2nd floor.

At 3:08 he is photographed on the dais with others (where he leaves a threatening note for the VP). At about 3:09 police reinforcements arrive and finally drive out all of the intruders.

By 3:40 he can be seen outside the building.

His statement of offense with his guilty plea is here (Start with paragraph #9 on page 4):

"What I did" -- Jacob Chansley

His presence in the chamber was itself a crime and that's the one he plead to: Obstruction of a government proceeding, 18 USC 1512(c)(2).

Tucker is gaslighting you all. Using your desire that the crimes not be what they have been reported combined with low levels of factual information and misleading edits.

 

[Valletta]

I swear I was going to post a picture of that same warm hearted guy feeding some fawns, but it wouldn't load from my tablet and I couldn't be bothered firing up the pc. Neither would the sweet picture of a guy with his puppy download. Somebody Dahmer I think his name was..?

The footage of the Capitol police leading the shaman and accompanying him around was disturbing--a completely different picture than the Democrats/media had painted. If he did not have access to the film footage he should get a new trial based on the withholding of evidence. And we need to know why in the world the Capitol police were they walking around with him from place to place. As I always say, transparency and accountability are keys to good government. Take a good and long look at the ones who are claiming national security will be compromised by releasing the footage, that is baloney.

 

[Bradskii]

The footage of the Capitol police leading the shaman and accompanying him around was disturbing...

Gimme a break, for heaven's sake. If there had been footage of the police forcibly dragging him out of the building you'd have been up in arms complaining about heavy handed police methods. You'd have thought that 'disturbing'. Now you've seen some footage when they are not doing that and still you find it 'disturbing'.

Let's face it, you'd complain about something - about anything, whatever the footage showed. You have a position to maintain and you spin the facts to suit. To say that it's par for the course is to state the obvious.

And I simply love the way you refer to him as 'the shaman.' All I saw was some idiot a few sandwiches short of a picnic who thought it was cool prancing around the Capitol in fancy dress. What did he actually plead guilty to? Looking like a moron?

But hey, stay tuned in to Tucker and the boys. They'll keep telling you what you want to hear. Even while they are telling each other, and you, that they know it's bulldust.

 

[iluvatar5150]

And I simply love the way you refer to him as 'the shaman.'

To be fair, "The QAnon Shaman" is his semi-official nickname or something. Nobody on CF made that up.

 

[Bradskii]

I guess he thinks it's cool. Well my official nickname for him is the Qanon Moron.

 

[iluvatar5150]

I guess he thinks it's cool. Well my official nickname for him is the Qanon Moron.

I bet there were almost as many contenders for that title as there were in the 2016 republican primary.

 

[Valletta]

It brings up a lot of questions about the actions of the Capitol police. Why were they walking around with him checking doors? I'm not a Tucker Carlson fan, I would like to see all of footage made available to the public. Why in many cases did the Capitol police at least tell people not to enter? This national security baloney to prevent people from seeing the tapes is being spewed by prominent Democrats.

 

[Bradskii]

I bet there were almost as many contenders for that title as there were in the 2016 republican primary.

Yeah, it's more a political party than a title. But I guess if you're sailing with a ship of fools then you really have to make an effort to stand out from the crowd. What is the collective noun for fools anyway? A company? A pack? A shipload (or a very similar sounding word)?

 

[Valletta]

Yeah, it's more a political party than a title. But I guess if you're sailing with a ship of fools then you really have to make an effort to stand out from the crowd. What is the collective noun for fools anyway? A company? A pack? A shipload (or a very similar sounding word)?

Mental illness happens to many and in many families The shaman was diagnosed fifteen years ago. It was a violation of our U.S. Constitution to withhold exculpatory evidence from his defense attorney and the judge. T

 

[BPPLEE]

In what way do they make that attempt?



You mean like the president being born in Kenya? Hillary's operatives killing people? Democrats are using children in blood rituals? That kind of truth?


I don't like fox because they are proven malicious liars and their own defense is that no one should take them seriously and yet people still do for some reason. Yet you have the audacity to tell us it is all in our head?


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That’s not exactly true and please don’t tell me you think CNN is not biased.

 

[BPPLEE]

Yeah I remember when Rush Limbaugh was still alive, people would at the same time brag about his reach and then say he wasn't part of MSM.

I agree. ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN should be called the left wing media, not MSM

 

[BPPLEE]

So because we can find those that were ok with it in the past, that means we should be ok with it now?

I dot think such an ethical principle can survive scrutiny. If it did we'd be approving of all sorts of atrocities.

Most people do approve as long as it benefits their cause. When the other side does it then it’s an atrocity

 

[BPPLEE]

For another other view.

US Capitol Police chief rips into Tucker Carlson over ‘offensive’ use of January 6 footage​

US Capitol Police Chief Tom Manger on Tuesday ripped into Fox News host Tucker Carlson over his commentary about footage from the January 6, 2021, insurrection that he aired Monday night, saying the host “cherry-picked” from the footage to present “offensive” and “misleading” conclusions about the attack.

“Last night an opinion program aired commentary that was filled with offensive and misleading conclusions about the January 6 attack,” Manger wrote in an internal department memo obtained by CNN, adding that Carlson’s show didn’t reach out to the police department “to provide accurate context.”

“The program conveniently cherry-picked from the calmer moments of our 41,000 hours of video. The commentary fails to provide context about the chaos and violence that happened before or during these less tense moments,” Manger said.

Carlson pointed out the violence and condemned it.

 

[BPPLEE]

The footage of the Capitol police leading the shaman and accompanying him around was disturbing--a completely different picture than the Democrats/media had painted. If he did not have access to the film footage he should get a new trial based on the withholding of evidence. And we need to know why in the world the Capitol police were they walking around with him from place to place. As I always say, transparency and accountability are keys to good government. Take a good and long look at the ones who are claiming national security will be compromised by releasing the footage, that is baloney.

It may have been helpful at his sentencing but from what I understand he pled guilty. The video tells a different story than what we have been told about him the last two years though

 

[ralliann]

Are you OK with that?


No, "we" do not.


No. I will continue to advocate for a government that does not play favorites depending on who is currently in charge.

No, I have not been ok with what went on before with the fbi, doj, etc.We have not gotten all the information in the past. It has been the woke that were ok with it. So, now that more information is available is a good thing. I want to see all there is to see. That has not occurred for a very long time so let it flow.