Why can't we do things the right way?

[OldWiseGuy]

One hopes so. But what does any of that have to do with biological evolution?

That was a tangent, but I can apply it to this topic. Of course I don't believe in evolution, of neither body or thought. But I believe that either belief, whether of creation or evolution, affects one's general thought process. And because of this I believe that the spiritual person is better able to deal with today's problems than others.

This pandemic is a case in point. It is inconceivable that this disease would arise from a Christian culture. On the other hand it is no surprise that it would arise from where it clearly did, either a market featuring a horrid assortment of unclean animals, or a laboratory mismanaged by 'secular' scientists who have no compunction regarding experimenting with "the unclean thing".

It is the disregard for principles (spiritual values) that are responsible for most of the problems we face.

 

[Speedwell]

That was a tangent, but I can apply it to this topic. Of course I don't believe in evolution, of neither body or thought. But I believe that either belief, whether of creation or evolution, affects one's general thought process. And because of this I believe that the spiritual person is better able to deal with today's problems than others.

It appears that you have some conflicting notions there. Biological evolution has nothing to do with whether God is author of our being or not, or whether one is "spiritual"or not.

This pandemic is a case in point. It is inconceivable that this disease would arise from a Christian culture. On the other hand it is no surprise that it would arise from where it clearly did, either a market featuring a horrid assortment of unclean animals, or a laboratory mismanaged by 'secular' scientists who have no compunction regarding experimenting with "the unclean thing".

How sad for you.

It is the disregard for principles (spiritual values) that are responsible for most of the problems we face.

Which may be so, but it has nothing to do with biological evolution.

 

[AnotherAtheist]

That was a tangent, but I can apply it to this topic. Of course I don't believe in evolution, of neither body or thought. But I believe that either belief, whether of creation or evolution, affects one's general thought process. And because of this I believe that the spiritual person is better able to deal with today's problems than others.

This pandemic is a case in point. It is inconceivable that this disease would arise from a Christian culture. On the other hand it is no surprise that it would arise from where it clearly did, either a market featuring a horrid assortment of unclean animals, or a laboratory mismanaged by 'secular' scientists who have no compunction regarding experimenting with "the unclean thing".

It is the disregard for principles (spiritual values) that are responsible for most of the problems we face.

My counts for this post:

Claims: 5
Facts: 0
Evidence: 0

 

[HitchSlap]

We have the knowledge of how to do most things properly. What in our evolutionary past (or present) causes us to be so destructive in many things that we attempt to do?

Religion?

 

[Hans Blaster]

On the other hand it is no surprise that it would arise from where it clearly did, either a market featuring a horrid assortment of unclean animals, or a laboratory mismanaged by 'secular' scientists who have no compunction regarding experimenting with "the unclean thing".

I don't recall, are bats kosher? We didn't learn that stuff in CCD.

Any other things we scientist should work on because they are 'unclean'. (Science is secular by definition as it not a religious activity.) Should we not use rats and mice in experiments? Should we not collect mud cores from lake bottoms? Should we not study bacteria? Does it offend got to observe the planets and stars?

 

[Hans Blaster]

How can an organism that evolved deny evolution? That would be like a lion eating bananas.

Ignorance. (And I'm not being pejorative, just saying that a member of an evolved species that is does not know about evolution might deny it.)

Lions aren't the product of banana groves.

 

[Larniavc]

This pandemic is a case in point. It is inconceivable that this disease would arise from a Christian culture.

Oh please.

United States biological weapons program - Wikipedia

 

[Larniavc]

My counts for this post:

Claims: 5
Facts: 0
Evidence: 0

Another case of Schrodinger’s Evidence from a religionists.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Which may be so, but it has nothing to do with biological evolution.

I know that. It is the belief in evolution that conveys a different mindset, not 'evolution' itself.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

My counts for this post:

Claims: 5
Facts: 0
Evidence: 0

Not surprising.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Oh please.

United States biological weapons program - Wikipedia

Without reading the link our weapons programs are run by evolutionist scientists.

 

[Speedwell]

I know that. It is the belief in evolution that conveys a different mindset, not 'evolution' itself.

What "mindset" is that? What "mindset" is it different from?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Ignorance. (And I'm not being pejorative, just saying that a member of an evolved species that is does not know about evolution might deny it.)

Unclear what you are saying, please rephrase.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

What "mindset" is that? What "mindset" is it different from?

The spiritual mindset. I've posted demonstrations of this many times, citing the shopping cart phenomenon, and the lake weeds example. I could list hundreds. It goes straight to the topic.

If there weren't widely differing mindsets there wouldn't be differences of opinions.

 

[Speedwell]

The spiritual mindset. I've posted demonstrations of this many times, citing the shopping cart phenomenon, and the lake weeds example. I could list hundreds. It goes straight to the topic.

Is this just more of the same "evolution = atheism" garbage?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Is this just more of the same "evolution = atheism" garbage?

No, but that's not far from the truth. If evolutionists and atheists were 'sorted' as in sedimentary strata they would be found in the same layer.

 

[pitabread]

And because of this I believe that the spiritual person is better able to deal with today's problems than others.

I've read literature that corroborates this view; e.g. that spiritual views / religious beliefs can help people cope with certain things than those without.

On the flipside, there tend to be greater correlation between social ills and hardship and those with said spiritual views / religious beliefs, than those without.

Which makes me wonder if part of the driver of religious beliefs are those hardships in the first place. Especially since almost every conversion story I've ever read usually starts out with a tragedy.

 

[Speedwell]

No, but that's not far from the truth. If evolutionists and atheists were 'sorted' as in sedimentary strata they would be found in the same layer.

Yes, we already know what you think of the spirituality of Christians who don't agree with you about creationism.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Unclear what you are saying, please rephrase.

Ignorance -- the lack of knowledge of a topic -- is a reason that a creature might not be able to recognize things. Going back to the thing I was quoting, the reason a member of an evolved species (that is a species that arose through evolution) might not realize its species had evolved because it was ignorant (unaware) of evolution.

 

[Larniavc]

Without reading the link our weapons programs are run by evolutionist scientists.

You still think America are the good guys.

smh