Why can't we do things the right way?

[Larniavc]

If evolution governs every thought and action, what went wrong?

It doesn’t.

A Christian may claim God governs every thought and action but would also claim we have free will.

But no one says evolutions governs things. The closest you could claim is that our cognitive ability is a product of evolution.

 

[Larniavc]

That contradicts the fact that we are very wasteful of our resources. In fact we are being buried in our own waste.

But they are not the resources that are causing the problem by being limited.

 

[Tom 1]

We have the knowledge of how to do most things properly. What in our evolutionary past (or present) causes us to be so destructive in many things that we attempt to do?

Too many conflicting impulses.

 

[pitabread]

The premise of my question is that evolutionists assert that even thoughts are a product of evolution.

Where do evolutionists assert that exactly?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

That's not correct, and I dare say you should know that by now.

"Evolutionists" do not assert that thoughts are the product of evolution. Nor do they assert that evolution "governs" every though and action.

But even the concept behind that misrepresentation only shows your question to be based on a false premise.

That even thoughts are a product of evolution isn't my idea. This was proffered here some time ago. I'm just running with it.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

But they are not the resources that are causing the problem by being limited.

What resources are you referring to? The last I heard we have plenty of everything. It's distribution that is a problem.

 

[Larniavc]

What resources are you referring to? The last I heard we have plenty of everything. It's distribution that is a problem.

Plenty of everything?

Really? I can't help wondering what all the American military intervention in oil rich areas might be about.

A most perplexing mystery.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Plenty of everything?

Really? I can't help wondering what all the American military intervention in oil rich areas might be about.

A most perplexing mystery.

Indeed. With our domestic production we don't need to be there, except to assure the free flow of oil at market prices (GHWB) for the rest of the world.

 

[Freodin]

That even thoughts are a product of evolution isn't my idea. This was proffered here some time ago. I'm just running with it.

And it seems you are running in the wrong direction.
That humans think is a product of evolution.
Even how humans think is a product of evolution.
But what humans think is NOT a product of evolution.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

And it seems you are running in the wrong direction.
That humans think is a product of evolution.
Even how humans think is a product of evolution.
But what humans think is NOT a product of evolution.

How is that even possible?

 

[AnotherAtheist]

How is that even possible?

If what people think (presumably at a conscious level) is to a large degree a product of human culture and society. Not just a product of evolution.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

If what people think (presumably at a conscious level) is to a large degree a product of human culture and society. Not just a product of evolution.

How can an organism that evolved deny evolution? That would be like a lion eating bananas.

 

[AnotherAtheist]

How can an organism that evolved deny evolution? That would be like a lion eating bananas.

There is no shortage of people who evolved who deny evolution. Since everybody evolved and there are people who deny evolution.

Please try asking 'how can' questions about things that aren't easily verified to be happening all the time.

 

[Freodin]

How is that even possible?

How is that even not possible? The way that something is done does not determine what is done. In most cases, there are many more, and vastly different influences on the result.

 

[Freodin]

How can an organism that evolved deny evolution?

That's easy. Evolution, due to some strange oversight, missed to imprint us with a "You evolved, stupid." sticker.

 

[AnotherAtheist]

How is that even not possible? The way that something is done does not determine what is done. In most cases, there are many more, and vastly different influences on the result.

As a dodgy analogy, the design of a combination microwave oven has far less influence on what is cooked than the recipe used.

 

[Speedwell]

How can an organism that evolved deny evolution? That would be like a lion eating bananas.

Are you trying to propose that people who accept evolution believe that there can be no other reason for anything that happens?

 

[pitabread]

How can an organism that evolved deny evolution?

Because the latter is not dependent on the former (or vise-versa).

 

[OldWiseGuy]

But to the topic.

One reason we don't do many things the right way is that we have institutionalized (baked in) ways that don't work very well for society in general. But we have the opportunity now to change some of those things. This pandemic will cause much of what we do to change, hopefully for the better.

 

[Speedwell]

But to the topic.

One reason we don't do many things the right way is that we have institutionalized (baked in) ways that don't work very well for society in general. But we have the opportunity now to change some of those things. This pandemic will cause much of what we do to change, hopefully for the better.

One hopes so. But what does any of that have to do with biological evolution?