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Why are most Christians so accepting of magic

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Guilty as charged! I enjoy science fiction, horror flicks, zombie stuff etc however, it is just mindless entertainment. I also have no conviction when watching these shows. So now what? Am I no longer a Christian? I think not.

QFT. Well said.
 
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Yeah I agree Harry Potter is strange to witchcraft. Not like the real witchcraft shows I've watched, some of which are filmed on Church grounds. https://www.laweekly.com/revisiting-the-l-a-filming-locations-of-the-craft-20-years-later/
 
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With all due respect, you can take your lecture elsewhere because I'm not going to be lectured and preached to by some stranger on the internet. My life choices are honestly none of your business.

They are my business if you promote your ideas to others openly. If a person cares about the Bible as a part of their faith, then they will take heed to what it says.
 
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Yeah I agree Harry Potter is strange to witchcraft. Not like the real witchcraft shows I've watched, some of which are filmed on Church grounds. https://www.laweekly.com/revisiting-the-l-a-filming-locations-of-the-craft-20-years-later/

It doesn’t have to be an exact match to know that it is still witchcraft. They even say that they are witches. They cast spells, etc.

A person can say the same thing about a cartoon porn movie. A person can say it is just a cartoon and not real porn or sexual immorality and it is not an exact representation of the real thing so it is okay.

But we know it would not be okay.
 
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When I was growing up, I knew that stories of magic, such as fairy tales, were just "let's pretend."
 
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When I was growing up, I knew that stories of magic, such as fairy tales, were just "let's pretend."

But there are others who attempt to do real magic because of their make believe play acting. I used to be one of them. So I know.
 
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There is a big difference between accepting occult magic as a reality, vs. reading a book or watching a movie that is obviously fiction. In fact, the "magic" portrayed in such make-believe productions has virtually no similarity to actual occult magic
 
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You can certainly be a passive participant.

Magical rituals and spells also depend on energy directed and exploited - of which, say, an avid book reader would devote large sums. You may not believe in it, but others do, and practice it with favorable results.
 
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This is a new concept for me, but: Porn involves usually the exploiting of humans who are beings. Not sure how cartoon porn relates to the real thing. But you see a connection, can you explain your position please. I don't understand.
 
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Yeah I agree Harry Potter is strange to witchcraft. Not like the real witchcraft shows I've watched, some of which are filmed on Church grounds. https://www.laweekly.com/revisiting-the-l-a-filming-locations-of-the-craft-20-years-later/

I've seen the Craft, but even that seemed to express an embedded moral tension, setting apart some notion of good versus evil.

However, this was definitely not the case with ........ewwww........my viewing of The Witch.......which was a bit discomfiting. Let's just say that my viewing experience of that film was just, "Bahhh, Baahh!!" (duh), and had absolutely nothing in common with my very enjoyable viewing (or three) of Doctor Strange!
 
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I didn't see that movie, sorry!
 
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This is a new concept for me, but: Porn involves usually the exploiting of humans who are beings. Not sure how cartoon porn relates to the real thing. But you see a connection, can you explain your position please. I don't understand.

Well, trust me, friend. You don't want to know about it. Such things can destroy a person's life. However, if you really have no idea and you simply want to know where I am coming from (because you are still clueless): Cartoon porn is exactly what it means. The format of the film is cartoon, but the content is porn in the sense like every other form of porn out there in that it depicts people having sex. Anyways, my point is that cartoon porn is something that men watch so as to touch (Which is the same purpose behind live action porn). It is all about lusting in one's heart sexually (Which is described as adultery by Jesus) (See: Matthew 5:28-30). In this passage, Jesus said, "And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee." (Matthew 5:30). Why did Jesus say to cut off the hand in relation to looking at woman? Because obviously it is talking about masturbation. Jesus is saying that it would be better if you cut off your hand if it would make you stop then to be cast bodily into hell fire over the sin of lusting after a woman. It is the same with any other sin that is promoted in a film, book, comic, etc. Granted, some sins are not as influentual as say porn involving men, but they can and do effect people more than you realize.

As I said before, I wanted to cast a real spell because of my influence in playing Dungeons and Dragons when I was a kid back in the 80's. I am not alone in my testimony, either. There are others who have been influenced to do those sinful things that are being pushed upon them in sinful secular films, books, comics, role playing games, etc.

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My point here is that if folks say that the sin that is promoted in their secular sinful movie watching does not effect them, then that is like saying that a person who watches cartoon porn is not effected by the sex being depicted in front of them using cartoon characters. They would be lying in most cases because men generally watch that kind of junk so as to touch. It is fantasy, but it is a real sin being pushed upon them that makes them sin. While other sins are not as influentual when it comes to men, they can and do effect a person more than most people realize. That's the whole point that you are ignoring. The reality of sin does not go away just because some movie director or book author says that such a sin does not exist in their universe. The reality of sin does not go away just because their fans say it does not exist, either.

Then there is the silent acceptance of such sins when you watch these films, read these books, comics, etc. If you were strongly against witchcraft, you are not going to watch witchcraft. Most Satanists turned Christian do not watch movies, read books depicting witchcraft because they know these are horrible sins to God.

1 John 2:15-17 says,

15 "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever."
 
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Why be afraid of something that isn't real?

The sin being displayed in play acting is very real to the viewer because they don't watch a movie and keep saying, "It's fake, it's fake, it's fake," etc. They generally like to escape into this fantasy world and play make believe like it is real. Thus the sins being pushed upon them are real. Otherwise, if it was all fake, then they would not cry or laugh, or be effected emotionally. They have to pretend it is real on some level to be effected by the movie on some emotional level.

Let me ask you. What sin do you hate the most? Is it the abuse of children or is it sexual immorality? Whatever sin you hate the most, I want you to picture a movie or book that is filled with that sin being pushed upon you repeatedly over, and over, and over again. That is what I am talking about. You would not want to read such a book or watch such a movie because such a sin repulses you. Now, how do you think God feels when Christians watch sinful things that He hates? God hates sin, and yet many here act as if it is no big deal to watch sinful things and to be silent and cold and indifferent to sin being displayed before your eyes or in your mind.
 
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My best guess....

Christians are so used to not seeing things like talking snakes, donkeys, water turned to wine, the sun standing still and other such miracles... that we are numb to the power of the other dimensions.

Magicians have always played the "eerie" card... You know, black cape, symbols other than Christian based symbols. Magic has always been "portrayed" as being supernatural and linked to palm reading and other occult events.

So, now, in 2019 when a Christian sees a magician do amazing things they just assume that it is a trick, a prop, a set up.

It's intriguing to try and figure it out.. How'd they do that? No... don't tell me, it will ruin the "trick".

Fact is, magicians have been getting better and better. To the point that, if they didn't do it before, the most certainly are using demonic entities to aid them in their craft...

Look at Dynamo, Shin Lim, and others... They do unbelievable stuff but with the help of demons, it is easy. Watch Sacred Riana.

Yes, they are entertaining, but they are using demons. It's dangerous. One even admits to having a spiritual helper, Desmond. David Copperfield also does impossible things.

You can look into it but be wary... it is demonic.
 
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Your views are completely extreme and the examples you pin on it (porn) is completely disconnected. Porn is real. It is a vile form of media where 2 or more people actually engage in sexual acts. It is a career that the majority of people who came from broken homes or whatever negative upbringing end up deciding for themselves.

This is not the same as comics, video games, fantasy books, etc. These forms of media are art based off the imagination and not "demonic influences". Your phobia towards these being developed after "reading the bible" is just you going a bit overboard with your interpretations.
 
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I think it is reassuring to note that even though these modern magicians can teleport objects, make items disappear, make fruit show up inside another fruit, levitate objects, move things around without touching them... even walk on the water of the River Thames..... these are great things for a human.. not for a demon.. and... what God can do is infinitely greater.
 
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