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Who should I vote for to end the war?

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DONALD TRUMP, hes a well known christian, and he knows putin. He said himself that all it takes is one phone call to end it all
He says all kinds of things without being able to actually back them up. Why should we believe him this time?
 
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First off, this is a geopolitical conflict between Autocracy and Democracy. As such, it's the autocrat that needs to get the people to concede power and therefore it's typically the autocrat that devises propaganda to deceive people into voting against their own interests; and/or resorts to some other means of force such as killing or jailing political opponents, silencing political dissent, and as it is in this case, invading other democratic countries.

Any pro-Putin autocratic politician (Trump) could simply be disguising their support for Putin by saying they are for ending the war in Ukraine, when in reality they mean Ukraine should concede. No disrespect intended, but your question above looks like propaganda to me, because in reality we can only vote for candidates whose policies will either support Ukraine's struggle for independence from Russia, or they will not.
Would you support the use of United Nations Peacekeeping?

Blue Helmets from a neutral country?
 
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Would you support the use of United Nations Peacekeeping?

Blue Helmets from a neutral country?
Peacekeeping is good of course, but let's not be naive since the deeper question is, on what side of the border would blue helmets be deployed and honored? The U.N. shouldn't be serving the autocrat.
 
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Ukraine already punted their chance at peace. They have gone for the jugular, which I don't think is very smart unless the war is just a political show where people die.
Do you not expect them to defend themselves in the face of attack?
 
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Ukraine already punted their chance at peace. They have gone for the jugular, which I don't think is very smart unless the war is just a political show where people die.
I don't blame them for that, right now there is a lot of lands for them to get back, which Russia thinks is theirs due to that 'vote'. Russia has made it clear they want to keep the land they hold, so there is no reason for Ukraine to stop the war now and lose about 10% of their country.
 
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Peacekeeping is good of course, but let's not be naive since the deeper question is, on what side of the border would blue helmets be deployed and honored? The U.N. shouldn't be serving the autocrat.
Freeze the line of control.

Blue Helmets provide a buffer zone.
 
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Ukraine already punted their chance at peace. They have gone for the jugular, which I don't think is very smart unless the war is just a political show where people die.
The reason the football analogy doesn't make sense is because the Ukrainians were not on offense.
 
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Freeze the line of control.

Blue Helmets provide a buffer zone.
As I've said before, this is a geopolitical conflict between Autocracy and Democracy. The U.N. shouldn't be supporting the annexation of countries by any autocrat. The Kremlin officially called the invasion a "peacekeeping" mission. We need to learn to recognize propaganda so as not to be deceived. There's really no such thing as a peacekeeper between a rapist and their victim after the theft has already occurred.
 
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You know what would also be progress for piece? Russia withdrawing it's forces.
It's ironic that the current war was said to be a "peacekeeping" mission by the Kremlin. "Peacemaking" to autocrats means letting them have their way, or else it's war.

March 2022:
"And this is where the words from the Scriptures come to my mind: 'There is no greater love than if someone gives his soul for his friends,'" Putin continued, paraphrasing John 15:13.
 
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The reason the football analogy doesn't make sense is because the Ukrainians were not on offense.

LOL.

I'll say they gave up any treatie talks at this stage. If they think they can overthrow all of Russia, that's a tall order, but probably what they want to do.
 
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LOL.

I'll say they gave up any treatie talks at this stage. If they think they can overthrow all of Russia, that's a tall order, but probably what they want to do.
There's no indication they want to overthrow all of Russia as much as make the war costly enough for Russia to withdraw their forces.
 
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LOL.

I'll say they gave up any treatie talks at this stage. If they think they can overthrow all of Russia, that's a tall order, but probably what they want to do.
For what it's worth, I think the sentiments would be better articulated by saying Ukraine doesn't trust Putin to keep any treaty. I don't believe Ukraine wants to overthrow all of Russia. This is a conflict between Autocracy and Democracy, and the same thing is on the ballot in 2024.
 
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