Where is the Soul located? And how does it wield the earthly body?

[The Times]

Somehow your individual spirit is put into or attached to your body, and this conditions (your) soul over time even as you (you the individual soul/spirit) can make choices at key moments in life, if the body (mind, ego) isn't too trained to ignore the soul.

But where is the soul if it just becomes? Where does this conscious mechanism or being exist. Locally within the material realm or remotely?

 

[The Times]

You make no sense.
Soul = mind , will and emotions.
It is part of the spirit of man which never dies.

Soul is being, what makes you you before you were born and before you knew about you, God knew you, therefore you existed before you knew you.

Therefore earthly experiences or thought processes are irrelevant to the question of being. Being transcends time and space. If you consider scripture you would seldom find soul being associated with experiences, thoughts or even emotions.

The phrase I was deeply troubled in spirit points to.....

John 13:22
He was troubled in his spirit.

Here the phrase in context to spirit being lower case and being troubled means that he was panting/panicking and breathing abnormally as far as nephesh/breath is concerned physiologically.

The capital S as in Spirit which points to Ruach/Soul being is not the context as what is being highlighted is physiological disturbances to the earthly body and mind which is in a panicky state.

The Soul or Ruach throughout scripture has never been associated with emotions, thoughts, experiences or physiological changes.

 

[Kaon]

Coming from an Engineering background with automation, programming and AI motor control specialty, I have come to a sobering conclusion.

But firstly the question where is our soul located?

I have firmly come to the belief that our souls are immaterial and cannot be accessed by creation within creation. That leaves us with a sobering conclusion that we, that is our soul ID, call it user is within God's soul repository. The System Creation Administrator appoints our user soul a user account with a privileged access to Creation, which is our material realm.

In saying this, the user outside of a computer system interface has access through the user account but is NOT the computer or the user account as such, no more than our soul is the earthly body.

So the soul is located within God's immaterial soul repository and has remote access to the physical hardware within the World Wide Web which is the created realm. The hardware being our earthly body.

In essence our earthly body is a biomechanical avatar which is being remotely controlled by our soul.

So when you think about it, when we are are sitting together we are really remotely animating our doll like biomechanical bodies, yet we are not even there and those doll like living bodies are not us, but merely avatars.

In the resurrection our earthly bodies dissolve, yet our souls are merged with the new heavenly bodies to be every part integral to our soul being. Unlike the doll like bodies we currently remotely wield, the heavenly bodies will be as the Lord from Heaven.

After this dawned on me, I could only think and be comforted that the death of the earthly body is to sever the remote access the soul has to the earthly avatar body. So the matrix movie is so wonderfully portraying how we our soul ID are like battery cells, that is energy that exists outside of the material realm that cannot be destroyed.

Knowing this gives us a completely different perspective that we are not really here so to speak, we are just merely wielding and animating real to life biomechanical dolls and the brain in itself is a remote access CPU terminal interface that is given access to the soul ID by God from conception.

Yes. This is a vessel for your spirit. Your "soul", or the essence of "you" is located with the Father if your name is in the book of life: it has already happened. This is why there are so many woes to people because the truth is many of us are not of the Father. He says this Himself.

But, this is also why those whose soul belongs to the Most High God will always end up with Him - no matter the vehicle you drive. It is also why sin is so bad for your soul, because it is your soul that ultimately operates the vehicle called your body in order to forsake the Universal Law of the Most High God. The soul moves the body to commit sin - which means sin is your complete choice of your soul.

It isn't hormones, people, the weather, etc. that make you sin. It is the foundation of your spirit that actually sins. That is why the Father also knows what true repentance.

 

[The Times]

You have to look at the original Hebrew to answer this. According to the Hebrew we are Body, Soul and Spirit. The key being we are Spirits, as in that is who we are, the body is just a shell. Soul, in the Hebrew refers to the ability to breathe, think and reason...that said even animals have souls and bodies. The difference, again, is the Spirit, which is what sets us apart from any other creation. So where does the Spirit reside? Trick question, we are the Spirit, the body is a shell and the soul is our ability to control the body.

So the Soul or Ruach is either locally controlling the biomechanical earthly body or remotely. I preposed in the thread that it is remotely controlled, since when the body is killed the nephesh/spirit with lower case s is dissolved, yet the soul is preserved beyond biological death.

 

[The Times]

Yes. This is a vessel for your spirit. Your "soul", or the essence of "you" is located with the Father if your name is in the book of life: it has already happened. This is why there are so many woes to people because the truth is many of us are not of the Father. He says this Himself.

But, this is also why those whose soul belongs to the Most High God will always end up with Him - no matter the vehicle you drive. It is also why sin is so bad for your soul, because it is your soul that ultimately operates the vehicle called your body in order to forsake the Universal Law of the Most High God. The soul moves the body to commit sin - which means sin is your complete choice of your soul.

It isn't hormones, people, the weather, etc. that make you sin. It is the foundation of your spirit that actually sins. That is why the Father also knows what true repentance.

So it is not your breath of life your nephesh that is spirit with lower case s, but your soul being who either controlls your body and nephesh locally or remotely?

Local control or remote control is the question of the thread. Where is the Soul, not our breath that is nephesh but our being.

Are we here or are we within God's soul repository in an inmaterial place only accessible by God?

If the nephesh dies with the body, then those that cannot kill the soul implies that biological death will not effect the existence of the soul being that makes you you.

 

[Uncle Mikey]

So the matrix movie is so wonderfully portraying how we our soul ID are like battery cells, that is energy that exists outside of the material realm that cannot be destroyed.

Hebrews 11:3
"Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear"

 

[Uncle Mikey]

The Rabbit Hole goes deep Friend...

Another Slide for your archives...

It is the High Priest's Breastplate along with the Four Living Creatures.

Why God encrypted this information into the Sacred Text has a lot to do with your research...

 

[Uncle Mikey]

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

^^^
This...

Is the Key Verse.

The Double Edged Sword is DNA... where Soul and Spirit are joined...

Look there for your answers OP.

The Kingdom of God is Within.

 

[Kaon]

So it is not your breath of life your nephesh that is spirit with lower case s, but your soul being who either controlls your body and nephesh locally or remotely?

Local control or remote control is the question of the thread. Where is the Soul, not our breath that is nephesh but our being.

Are we here or are we within God's soul repository in an inmaterial place only accessible by God?

If the nephesh dies with the body, then those that cannot kill the soul implies that biological death will not effect the existence of the soul being that makes you you.

God the Father ("Soul")
The Totality of His pleroma/Holy Spirit (Spirit)
The Redeemer Himself (Body)

God the Father is His Identity. It is Him; it is the "intelligence" that instructs the holy spirit to, for example, endow the Redeemer as the Physical Image of the Most High God.


Your Soul
Has an ON LOAN spirit from the the Father
Which works in enmity with the body

Ideally, your IDENTITY/SOUL would be holy, and empower your vessel to do nothing but holy things. However, we are sons of men; our vessel is in enmity with the Holy Spirit.

Your SOUL is with the Most High God. Your SPIRIT is dead; all sons of men are born without living spirits of their own. Only Adam, and the Redeemer had living spirits unique to them such that they would be called "sons of God."

Our job is to discipline this BODY/VESSEL with the intelligence of our SOUL, whose SPIRIT is to be judged as worthy at judgment. We have a COMFORTER to guide us in the right direction - to subdue our VESSELS. But, your SOUL is you. It is the thing that will let you know if you are a coward, murderer, liar, backstabber, honorable person, honest person, loving person, etc. - no matter your memory or circumstance. That is the essence of you.

Be "fearful" of the One that can destroy not only your body, but the literal essence of you.

 

[Kaon]

The Rabbit Hole goes deep Friend...

Another Slide for your archives...

It is the High Priest's Breastplate along with the Four Living Creatures.

Why God encrypted this information into the Sacred Text has a lot to do with your research...

Interesting...

 

[Uncle Mikey]

Where is the Soul, not our breath that is nephesh but our being.

Spirit/Breath is the Key Word here.

Earth's Atmosphere is made of almost all Nitrogen.

Nitrogen is the Seventh Element in the Periodic Table.

It makes up the Stone with Seven Eyes (Seven Electrons)... aka... a Nitrogenous Base.

We're talking about a Nucleobase of DNA... the Word of God...

Adenine
Cytosine
Guanine
Thymine

Thus when we breathe, we breathe the Seven Spirits of Nitrogen...

Job 27:3
"All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils"

Now if One really wants to get into the Heart of things, check this out...

John 3:8
"The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit"

The Wind/Nitrogen is where the Spirit is... but look what Jesus says.

He is talking about this Spirit having Life outside of a body!

Is this how we are born physically as well?

The pregnant Mother inhales a Spirit?

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Coming from an Engineering background with automation, programming and AI motor control specialty, I have come to a sobering conclusion.

But firstly the question where is our soul located?

I have firmly come to the belief that our souls are immaterial and cannot be accessed by creation within creation. That leaves us with a sobering conclusion that we, that is our soul ID, call it user is within God's soul repository. The System Creation Administrator appoints our user soul a user account with a privileged access to Creation, which is our material realm.

In saying this, the user outside of a computer system interface has access through the user account but is NOT the computer or the user account as such, no more than our soul is the earthly body.

So the soul is located within God's immaterial soul repository and has remote access to the physical hardware within the World Wide Web which is the created realm. The hardware being our earthly body.

In essence our earthly body is a biomechanical avatar which is being remotely controlled by our soul.

So when you think about it, when we are are sitting together we are really remotely animating our doll like biomechanical bodies, yet we are not even there and those doll like living bodies are not us, but merely avatars.

In the resurrection our earthly bodies dissolve, yet our souls are merged with the new heavenly bodies to be every part integral to our soul being. Unlike the doll like bodies we currently remotely wield, the heavenly bodies will be as the Lord from Heaven.

After this dawned on me, I could only think and be comforted that the death of the earthly body is to sever the remote access the soul has to the earthly avatar body. So the matrix movie is so wonderfully portraying how we our soul ID are like battery cells, that is energy that exists outside of the material realm that cannot be destroyed.

Knowing this gives us a completely different perspective that we are not really here so to speak, we are just merely wielding and animating real to life biomechanical dolls and the brain in itself is a remote access CPU terminal interface that is given access to the soul ID by God from conception.

There's really no reason to postulate a soul outside of the living brain. If one postulates a soul outside of the brain, it must have components, it cannot be an undifferentiated mass. For if it were undifferentiated, there would be no memory. Memory requires information storage which requires non-uniform components. The only advantage gained by thinking of the soul outside of the brain is to consider the soul to be "spooky" enough to account for our ability to have ideas and memories and feelings. But in the first place, such an offloading of the spookiness component of our selves fails to take account of the spookiness of our brains, which clearly involve electron jumping going on . . . and electrons can be in two places at once, can respond to a stimulus in an unpredictable fashion, can go from one place to another without occupying the space in between . . . . that's pretty spooky stuff right there! No, the brain as we know it is sufficiently "spooky" to be the sole repository of the soul.

 

[The Times]

There's really no reason to postulate a soul outside of the living brain. If one postulates a soul outside of the brain, it must have components, it cannot be an undifferentiated mass. For if it were undifferentiated, there would be no memory. Memory requires information storage which requires non-uniform components. The only advantage gained by thinking of the soul outside of the brain is to consider the soul to be "spooky" enough to account for our ability to have ideas and memories and feelings. But in the first place, such an offloading of the spookiness component of our selves fails to take account of the spookiness of our brains, which clearly involve electron jumping going on . . . and electrons can be in two places at once, can respond to a stimulus in an unpredictable fashion, can go from one place to another without occupying the space in between . . . . that's pretty spooky stuff right there! No, the brain as we know it is sufficiently "spooky" to be the sole repository of the soul.

The Rich Man and Lazarus informs us that after biological death there is a conscious realm outside of our grasp of understanding.

Jesus wants us to know that the being of existing post brain death is one of two paths.

If the conscious awareness of the rich man extends beyond the grave then what is outside of body and nephesh/spirit?

The soul/ruach being.

 

[sparow]

Coming from an Engineering background with automation, programming and AI motor control specialty, I have come to a sobering conclusion.

But firstly the question where is our soul located?

I have firmly come to the belief that our souls are immaterial and cannot be accessed by creation within creation. That leaves us with a sobering conclusion that we, that is our soul ID, call it user is within God's soul repository. The System Creation Administrator appoints our user soul a user account with a privileged access to Creation, which is our material realm.

In saying this, the user outside of a computer system interface has access through the user account but is NOT the computer or the user account as such, no more than our soul is the earthly body.

So the soul is located within God's immaterial soul repository and has remote access to the physical hardware within the World Wide Web which is the created realm. The hardware being our earthly body.

In essence our earthly body is a biomechanical avatar which is being remotely controlled by our soul.

So when you think about it, when we are are sitting together we are really remotely animating our doll like biomechanical bodies, yet we are not even there and those doll like living bodies are not us, but merely avatars.

In the resurrection our earthly bodies dissolve, yet our souls are merged with the new heavenly bodies to be every part integral to our soul being. Unlike the doll like bodies we currently remotely wield, the heavenly bodies will be as the Lord from Heaven.

After this dawned on me, I could only think and be comforted that the death of the earthly body is to sever the remote access the soul has to the earthly avatar body. So the matrix movie is so wonderfully portraying how we our soul ID are like battery cells, that is energy that exists outside of the material realm that cannot be destroyed.

Knowing this gives us a completely different perspective that we are not really here so to speak, we are just merely wielding and animating real to life biomechanical dolls and the brain in itself is a remote access CPU terminal interface that is given access to the soul ID by God from conception.

Soul is an old English word and does mean the immaterial part of man; once again the translators have really screwed up.

Genesis 2:7 (ASV)
7 And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

From the Hebrew this should read, "and man became a living animal."

Psalm 16:10 (NKJV)
10 For You will not leave my soul in Sheol, Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.

From the Hebrew, "For you will not leave my breathing animal in the grave, nor will You allow Your Holy One to see the grave."

There are times when "soul" refers to the immaterial part of man but Biblically that is the breath of God.

 

[The Times]

Soul is an old English word and does mean the immaterial part of man; once again the translators have really screwed up.

Genesis 2:7 (ASV)
7 And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

From the Hebrew this should read, "and man became a living animal."

Psalm 16:10 (NKJV)
10 For You will not leave my soul in Sheol, Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.

From the Hebrew, "For you will not leave my breathing animal in the grave, nor will You allow Your Holy One to see the grave."

There are times when "soul" refers to the immaterial part of man but Biblically that is the breath of God.

Don't you find it interesting that context usually distinguishes between spirit (lower case) meaning Nephesh (breath) and soul/Spirit (upper case) meaning Ruarch.

Ruarch according to Jesus cannot be killed, whereas Nephesh (spirit) can be snuffed out.

 

[The Times]

Genesis 2:7 (ASV)
7 And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

From the Hebrew this should read, "and man became a living animal."

The close and intimate act of God breathing into Adam is the very Image of God, the self existential being. Notice animals who were created didn't have that intimate connection or self awareness, that is the becoming of a self aware being.

Adam became more than just a living creature/animal, he became self aware of his own existence. Self existential traits are the domain of the Ruarch/Soul.

Ruarch is not Nephesh/Breath.

Even though soul and spirit are used interchangeably, but context determines whether Ruarch/being is talked about or just the Nephesh (physiological breath).

 

[The Times]

There's really no reason to postulate a soul outside of the living brain. If one postulates a soul outside of the brain, it must have components, it cannot be an undifferentiated mass. For if it were undifferentiated, there would be no memory. Memory requires information storage which requires non-uniform components. The only advantage gained by thinking of the soul outside of the brain is to consider the soul to be "spooky" enough to account for our ability to have ideas and memories and feelings. But in the first place, such an offloading of the spookiness component of our selves fails to take account of the spookiness of our brains, which clearly involve electron jumping going on . . . and electrons can be in two places at once, can respond to a stimulus in an unpredictable fashion, can go from one place to another without occupying the space in between . . . . that's pretty spooky stuff right there! No, the brain as we know it is sufficiently "spooky" to be the sole repository of the soul.

The Ruarch is like someone moving parts as an avatar in gaining access to the material realm .

A person can sit behind a computer terminal and exhibit intelligence, yet the medium by which the person uses is a computer. A Ruarch uses a biomechanical body that God granted access to from conception and the interface is so real that you almost would think that you are the body/brain .

Say the connection between the Ruarch and the brain is severed momentarily and then returned, the person can discern the body is not him/her, but something separate to him/her.

We are not our body or brain is what I am postulating. The Ruarch is us in the purest form, regardless of understanding who we are through human experiences.

We exist within God's soul repository regardless of our experiences, emotions and thoughts .

Jesus hinted at this fact as follows

When Jesus saw this, he was indignant. He said to them, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.

Jesus was furious in better words and he shot down the disciples by saying you cannot prevent them from coming to me for the Kingdom of God belongs to them.

In other words Jesus is revealing that those Ruarchs are with him within his soul repository, so he is yelling at his disciples that they could not in the strongest tone prevent them from interacting with him.

If these children had no meaningful physiological interaction with Jesus as the disciples saw it, then Jesus is very very angry because they are preventing the ruarchs rather than the meaning of the physical interaction. Jesus was furious by screaming at his disciples along the lines of how dare you and who do you think you are in trying to deny me human interaction with the Ruarchs who are with me in Heaven, which points to the Ruarchs being remote to those children.

Whilst the disciples saw animated little bodies coming to him, Jesus saw beyond the reality of those little bodies, rather he saw those little Ruarchs remotely controlling those little bodies wanting to interact with him The Creator.

It is like Jesus wanted to see how those Ruarchs who are with him in Heaven are interacting with him through their little body interface and it facinated him and the disciples made him very angry because they wanted to deny him that experience.

 

[The Times]

But when the chief priests and the teachers of the law saw the wonderful things he did and the children shouting in the temple courts, “Hosanna to the Son of David,” they were indignant.

The children singing as a choir is an act of Ruarchs being prompted from God's soul/ruarch repository to sing in unison. These children were not of age to reason with by the teachers of the law because they exhibited a miracle. The miracle act in itself cannot be originating locally on earth by bodies and brains, it is triggered remotely from Heaven.

 

[Hawkins]

Soul is actually a fundamental Pharisaic concept upheld by ancient Jews in majority back in Jesus' days.

Pharisees as a religious sect believe immortal soul, eternal hell and partial freewill and partial predestination. In the Bible the the term predestination is introduced by Paul (who is Saul the Pharisee).

Josephus the Pharisee advocate the same soul concept in his explanation of Hades to the Greeks.

An Extract Out of Josephus’ Discourse to the Greeks Concerning Hades:
Hades is a place in the world not regularly finished; a subterraneous region, wherein the light of this world does not shine; from which circumstance, that in this region the light does not shine, it cannot be but there must be in it perpetual darkness. This region is allotted as a place of custody for souls, ill which angels are appointed as guardians to them, who distribute to them temporary punishments, agreeable to every one's behavior and manners.

In this region there is a certain place set apart, as a lake of unquenchable fire, whereinto we suppose no one hath hitherto been cast; but it is prepared for a day afore-determined by God, in which one righteous sentence shall deservedly be passed upon all men; when the unjust, and those that have been disobedient to God, and have given honor to such idols as have been the vain operations of the hands of men as to God himself, shall be adjudged to this everlasting punishment...

Jesus Christ never tried to correct this dominant concept but made use of it in His teachings and parables. For an example,

Luke 12:4-5 (NIV2011)
I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more.
But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after your body has been killed, has authority to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Let’s not make a distinction between soul and spirit for ease of discussion.

Coming from an Engineering background with automation, programming and AI motor control specialty, I have come to a sobering conclusion.

But firstly the question where is our soul located?

I have firmly come to the belief that our souls are immaterial and cannot be accessed by creation within creation.

Why do you think immaterial matters cannot be accessed by created beings or matters? I don’t see that.

If a man needs to stir up courage, a non-material matter, he does so with his material wherewithal. Same for all the virtues. So I think this point is in error. The Created can access the spirit or non-material.

That leaves us with a sobering conclusion that we, that is our soul ID, call it user is within God's soul repository.

Not at all. Many souls/spirits are so filthy, He wouldn’t want proximity let alone in dwelling. The demon spirits don’t reside in Him.

The System Creation Administrator appoints our user soul a user account with a privileged access to Creation, which is our material realm.

Wrong again. We reside in a material body and have access to creation through that.

In saying this, the user outside of a computer system interface has access through the user account but is NOT the computer or the user account as such, no more than our soul is the earthly body.

So the soul is located within God's immaterial soul repository and has remote access to the physical hardware within the World Wide Web which is the created realm. The hardware being our earthly body.

No, it resides at the base of the spine.

In essence our earthly body is a biomechanical avatar which is being remotely controlled by our soul.

Not remote but internal.

So when you think about it, when we are are sitting together we are really remotely animating our doll like biomechanical bodies, yet we are not even there and those doll like living bodies are not us, but merely avatars.

In the resurrection our earthly bodies dissolve, yet our souls are merged with the new heavenly bodies to be every part integral to our soul being. Unlike the doll like bodies we currently remotely wield, the heavenly bodies will be as the Lord from Heaven.

No we inhabite new bodies.

After this dawned on me, I could only think and be comforted that the death of the earthly body is to sever the remote access the soul has to the earthly avatar body. So the matrix movie is so wonderfully portraying how we our soul ID are like battery cells, that is energy that exists outside of the material realm that cannot be destroyed.

Knowing this gives us a completely different perspective that we are not really here so to speak, we are just merely wielding and animating real to life biomechanical dolls and the brain in itself is a remote access CPU terminal interface that is given access to the soul ID by God from conception.

No one ought to be alarmed by the above as there no evidence for this and plenty against. We are really here. We are not remote. I see no evidence for your position in life or otherwise. We are not machines.