Where is "go to heaven" in the Bible?

[BPPLEE]

And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of the sky, prepared as a bride for her husband.
Revelation 21:2

Blessed are they that do His commands, that they may have right to the tree of life,
and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Revelation 22:14

Yes.
That definitely happens at the appointed time

 

[keras]

Matthew 3:2, Matthew 4:17, Matthew 5:3, Matthew 5:10, Matthew 5:12, Matthew 5:19, Matthew 5:20, Matthew 6:20, Matthew 7:21, Matthew 8:11, Matthew 18:3, Matthew 18:4
I can keep going

None of your quotes say when or where the Kingdom of heaven, comes or will be situated.
Revelation 21:1-7 tells us those details: AFTER the Millennium and on earth.

 

[BPPLEE]

None of your quotes say when or where the Kingdom of heaven, comes or will be situated.
Revelation 21:1-7 tells us those details: AFTER the Millennium and on earth.

Exactly. That’s AFTER the Milennium.

 

[keras]

Exactly. That’s AFTER the Milennium.

So the truth is that no human will go to heaven and after the Millennium, God and heaven will come to the new earth. Revelation 21:1-7

 

[BPPLEE]

So the truth is that no human will go to heaven and after the Millennium, God and heaven will come to the new earth. Revelation 21:1-7

I disagree, but see no point in arguing

 

[Mark Quayle]

So the truth is that no human will go to heaven and after the Millennium, God and heaven will come to the new earth. Revelation 21:1-7

If Heaven comes to the New Earth, how will we not go there?

 

[keras]

I disagree, but see no point in arguing

Yes; why argue against plainly stated scripture?
Best to simply believe what Jesus and the Prophets have told us.

If Heaven comes to the New Earth, how will we not go there?

God and therefore heaven, comes to the new earth to dwell with mankind for Eternity, as described in Revelation 21 to 22.
AFTER the 7000 year decreed time for mankind here.

What absolutely does not happen, is humans departing from the present earth to live in the Spiritual realm of Gods heaven.

 

[Mark Quayle]

Yes; why argue against plainly stated scripture?
Best to simply believe what Jesus and the Prophets have told us.

God and therefore heaven, comes to the new earth to dwell with mankind for Eternity, as described in Revelation 21 to 22.
AFTER the 7000 year decreed time for mankind here.

What absolutely does not happen, is humans departing from the present earth to live in the Spiritual realm of Gods heaven.

You do realize, I hope, that your last sentence, there, is entirely time dependent? After death, everything changes.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

Where in the Bible do people get the concept of God wanting the saved to "go to heaven" forever?

I say the degree that people do not see what the church is is indiicated by how strong is
their belief that God wants them to "go to heaven" to be in heaven forever.

Demonstrate that "going to heaven" forever as God's desire for the saved is biblical teaching.

Matthew 25:46

 

[BPPLEE]

Yes; why argue against plainly stated scripture?
Best to simply believe what Jesus and the Prophets have told us.

God and therefore heaven, comes to the new earth to dwell with mankind for Eternity, as described in Revelation 21 to 22.
AFTER the 7000 year decreed time for mankind here.

What absolutely does not happen, is humans departing from the present earth to live in the Spiritual realm of Gods heaven.

For the believer in Jesus Christ, the Bible tells us that after death believers’ souls/spirits are taken to heaven, because their sins were forgiven when they received Christ as Savior (John 3:16, 18, 36). For believers, death means being “away from the body and at home with the Lord” (2 Corinthians 5:6–8; Philippians 1:23). However, passages such as 1 Corinthians 15:50–54 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13–17 describe believers being resurrected and given glorified bodies. If believers go to be with Christ immediately after death, what is the purpose of this resurrection? It seems that, while the souls/spirits of believers go to be with Christ immediately at death, the physical body remains in the grave “sleeping.” At the resurrection of believers, the physical body is resurrected, glorified, and reunited with the soul/spirit. This reunited and glorified body-soul-spirit will be the state of existence for believers for eternity in the new heavens and new earth (Revelation 21—22).

1Th 3:13 - To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness beforeGod, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints
Luk 23:43 - And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you, today you will bewith Me in Paradise.”

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There is abundant evidence in the scriptures that when a child of God dies he goes immediately to be with the Lord. Jesus said to the thief on the cross, “Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise” (Luke 23:43). This is an amazing display of grace. The man was dying because he was a convicted criminal; he deserved nothing. It was too late to turn over a new leaf, too late to be baptized, too late to join the church — but not too late for Jesus to save him and promise that he would be with him in Paradise. There would be no soul-sleeping, no intermediate state; upon death he would go directly to be with the Lord. We see another beautiful example of this truth in the death of Stephen. He had preached a powerful, convicting message. Yet the response of his listeners was, “When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and gnashed on him with their teeth” (Acts 7:54). Rather than being humbled and brought to repentance, they were angry and decided to kill the messenger. “But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked steadfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God” (Acts 7:56). What a way to die! As they were stoning him he looked into heaven and saw Jesus ready to welcome him home.Then we read the words of the Apostle Paul. “For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain” (Philippians 1:21). Paul viewed death not as extinction or soul-sleeping, but as a positive move to something that was better; he considered it gain. And then he said, “For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better: nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you” (Philippians 2:23-24). Paul was not depressed or despairing of life. He was willing to remain and minister to the Lord’s people, but his ultimate desire was to be with the Lord. And the reason dying was gain is that it meant being with the Lord. No intermediate state, no purgatory, no soul sleeping, but to be with the Lord.Paul writes at length in his second epistle to the Corinthians about the desire to be with the Lord. He points out that the afflictions of the present are actually light when weighed against the glory that is to come. And then he declares, “We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord” (2 Corinthians 5:8).

For God’s children, death is not a dismal defeat at the end of life but a home-going to be forever with the Lord.

We hear sermons about Heaven, we sing songs about Heaven, we say we believe in Heaven; but to contemplate what it will mean to be in the presence of Jesus Christ forever is beyond our ability to fully grasp. What a blessed hope we have to know that when we breathe out our last we are not going into some dark unknown region, but to be with Jesus Christ who loved us and gave himself for us!

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[keras]

You do realize, I hope, that your last sentence, there, is entirely time dependent? After death, everything changes.

ALL the dead 'sleep' in their graves. Like Job 14:10-12 and David; Acts 13:36, they know nothing; Eccl 9:5

The only dead people who will be raised by Jesus at His Return; before the final Judgment, with a few individual exceptions already in the past; will be those martyrs killed for their faith during the 3 1/2 year period of world Satanic control. Revelation 20:4

Matthew 25:46

Matthew 25:46 is a Prophecy about the Great White Throne Judgment; Revelation 20:11-15 proves it.

There is abundant evidence in the scriptures that when a child of God dies he goes immediately to be with the Lord.

Actually there isn't any such evidence at all. It can be assumed, supposed, surmised and conjectured, but there is nothing definitive.
You add a comma to Luke 23:43, where it should not be, as that makes it contradict other scriptures. As I cite above.

The belief of going immediately to heaven at death, cannot be right, as the Judgment which we all must face has not taken place yet.
The silly and childish story of St Peter at the gate to heaven and the little white lie of the departed one being now in heaven, said at funerals, are fairy tales and totally unreal.
However; as the dead are no longer conscious and know nothing, their next conscious moment will be as their souls stand before God and the Book of Life is opened. Rev 20:11-15

 

[BPPLEE]

ALL the dead 'sleep' in their graves. Like Job 14:10-12 and David; Acts 13:36, they know nothing; Eccl 9:5

The only dead people who will be raised by Jesus at His Return; before the final Judgment, with a few individual exceptions already in the past; will be those martyrs killed for their faith during the 3 1/2 year period of world Satanic control. Revelation 20:4

Matthew 25:46 is a Prophecy about the Great White Throne Judgment; Revelation 20:11-15 proves it.

Actually there isn't any such evidence at all. It can be assumed, supposed, surmised and conjectured, but there is nothing definitive.
You add a comma to Luke 23:43, where it should not be, as that makes it contradict other scriptures. As I cite above.

The belief of going immediately to heaven at death, cannot be right, as the Judgment which we all must face has not taken place yet.
The silly and childish story of St Peter at the gate to heaven and the little white lie of the departed one being now in heaven, said at funerals, are fairy tales and totally unreal.
However; as the dead are no longer conscious and know nothing, their next conscious moment will be as their souls stand before God and the Book of Life is opened. Rev 20:11-15

Funny, when I click on the link in your post it has the same comma in it, as most Bible versions do. I didn’t say anything about Peter sitting at the pearly gates.
How can the saints come with Jesus if they’re not with him?

 

[Mark Quayle]

ALL the dead 'sleep' in their graves. Like Job 14:10-12 and David; Acts 13:36, they know nothing; Eccl 9:5

The only dead people who will be raised by Jesus at His Return; before the final Judgment, with a few individual exceptions already in the past; will be those martyrs killed for their faith during the 3 1/2 year period of world Satanic control. Revelation 20:4

Matthew 25:46 is a Prophecy about the Great White Throne Judgment; Revelation 20:11-15 proves it.

Actually there isn't any such evidence at all. It can be assumed, supposed, surmised and conjectured, but there is nothing definitive.
You add a comma to Luke 23:43, where it should not be, as that makes it contradict other scriptures. As I cite above.

The belief of going immediately to heaven at death, cannot be right, as the Judgment which we all must face has not taken place yet.
The silly and childish story of St Peter at the gate to heaven and the little white lie of the departed one being now in heaven, said at funerals, are fairy tales and totally unreal.
However; as the dead are no longer conscious and know nothing, their next conscious moment will be as their souls stand before God and the Book of Life is opened. Rev 20:11-15

Like I said, time-dependent.

 

[keras]

when I click on the link in your post it has the same comma in it

Most translations put it wrong and make a Biblical anomaly.
Proved by 1 Peter 3:19, where we are told that after Jesus died, He went down to Hades. Not Paradise or heaven that day.

How can the saints come with Jesus if they’re not with him?

The word 'haigos', translated as saints, also translates as angels. Matthew 16:27 and Revelation 19:14 correctly say ; with His angel army.
The wrong idea of 'saints' accompanying Jesus at His Return, is impossible without any proof of people going to live in heaven before then.

 

[BPPLEE]

Most translations put it wrong and make a Biblical anomaly.
Proved by 1 Peter 3:19, where we are told that after Jesus died, He went down to Hades. Not Paradise or heaven that day.

The word 'haigos', translated as saints, also translates as angels. Matthew 16:27 and Revelation 19:14 correctly say ; with His angel army.
The wrong idea of 'saints' accompanying Jesus at His Return, is impossible without any proof of people going to live in heaven before then.

1Peter 3:19 by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison,
Okay, so there were spirits of people who had died in Hades, so people don’t just sleep when they die. And don’t say they were demon spirits, how could people be possessed by demons if they are in Hades and what is the point of preaching to demons?

 

[BPPLEE]

ALL the dead 'sleep' in their graves. Like Job 14:10-12 and David; Acts 13:36, they know nothing; Eccl 9:5

The only dead people who will be raised by Jesus at His Return; before the final Judgment, with a few individual exceptions already in the past; will be those martyrs killed for their faith during the 3 1/2 year period of world Satanic control. Revelation 20:4

Matthew 25:46 is a Prophecy about the Great White Throne Judgment; Revelation 20:11-15 proves it.

Actually there isn't any such evidence at all. It can be assumed, supposed, surmised and conjectured, but there is nothing definitive.
You add a comma to Luke 23:43, where it should not be, as that makes it contradict other scriptures. As I cite above.

The belief of going immediately to heaven at death, cannot be right, as the Judgment which we all must face has not taken place yet.
The silly and childish story of St Peter at the gate to heaven and the little white lie of the departed one being now in heaven, said at funerals, are fairy tales and totally unreal.
However; as the dead are no longer conscious and know nothing, their next conscious moment will be as their souls stand before God and the Book of Life is opened. Rev 20:11-15

“Matthew 25:46 is a Prophecy about the Great White Throne Judgement. Revelation 20 11-15/ proves it”

12 And I saw the dead, wsmall and great, standing before 3God, xand books were opened. And another ybook was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged zaccording to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, aand Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. bAnd they were judged, each one

Who are these dead that were in Hades?

 

[contratodo]

The problem is the concept of "heaven".
The enemy has done a good job of lying to us, getting us to believe in a distorted and deceptive view of creation.

The truth is in the Bible.
God will destroy this place by fire, the sky, the land, the sea, everything will burn; 2 Peter 3:8-12.
The place in Revelation where we can insert 2 Peter 3:8-12 is Revelation 20:9-10.
We know from 2 Peter that that final fire consumes the whole earth as we know it.

After the 1000 years, the nations are deceived into fighting the camp of the saints, Jerusalem,
but God sends a fire down and destroys them, and inserting 2 Peter 3:8-12 at that point makes sense
because afterwards Revelation 20:11 to 21:1 describes a land sea and sky that has passed away.

"the first sky and the first land were passed away" Revelation 21:1
We know from 2 Peter 3:8-12 that it passes away by fire.

We can see the lake of fire as a result of the fire God sends,
first kindled by the two prophets Revelation 11:5,
then also by the fire from Jesus' mouth Revelation 19:21,
then the final fire sent down by God Revelation 20:9.

Therefore we can understand that a new sky and new land is formed as the first passes away by that final fire,
and at that time new Jerusalem, a city with streets of transparent gold, comes down.

"coming down from God out of the sky."
Everywhere in Revelation 20 and 21 'heaven' refers to the sky, not some far off place or other dimension.
The words 'earth' and 'heaven' are defined for us back in Genesis 1:8,10.
"And God called the firmament, Heaven"
"And God called the dry land, Earth"
In the Bible, most of the time, that is what those words are referring to, land and sky.

Going on to Revelation 21:8 and 22:15 we see that liars have their part in the lake of fire.
Outside of the new sky everything burns.
Inside of the new sky is new land and the new Jerusalem.


I believe that when we die now, before the return, we immediately wake up on a horse and see Jesus' backside. [Exodus 33:23]
He is in front of us a vast army on horses, we all in the sky, in the air, in the clouds,
on that great day to see the vengeance unfold, as promised: Psalm 58:10, Malachi 4:2-3.
We wake up to Revelation 19:14, to being part of that army.

And there is another vital one to show you.
In a good physical Bible in Revelation 19:14 you will see "which were" is in italics.
In Revelation 19:14 "which were" is an added in phrase.
It leads to a misguided understanding of the word "heaven" but yet again the word is simply referring to the sky.
The Bible had already given us the information of 2 Thess 4:16-17, Revelation gives us the parts we don't already have.

It should be read as follows;
"And armies in the sky followed Him on white horses,
clothed in fine linen, white and clean"

Resurrected armies of saints, in the air, just as Paul described in 2 Thess 4:16-17, in an instant we will be up in the sky with Christ.
Not taken to another dimension, taken up, to be part of the army in the sky with Him, to do doom upon all flesh, (Jude 1:14-15)
anyone not taken up will be left, for the birds. (Luke 17:34-37, Revelation 19:17, 21)

 

[keras]

so there were spirits of people who had died in Hades,

It does not say 'people', You have added that, bad you.
I believe 1 Peter 3:19, refers to fallen angels, the imprisoned spirits. NOT souls of people.

I believe that when we die now, before the return, we immediately wake up on a horse and see Jesus' backside

Typical vivid imagination of the deceived and confused.
When all the dead awake, it will be as they stand before God in Judgment. Rev 20:11-15
1 Corinthians 15:23 does not say 'all' those who belong to Christ will be raised at His Return. We know it will only be the GT martyrs, Rev 20:4
Then verse 24 tells of the end; after the Millennium, when ALL will be raised for Judgment.

Only the souls of the GT martyrs will be resurrected before the GWT Judgment and they too; must stand before God and as their names will be found in the Book of Life, they will receive immortality for Eternity.

 

[BPPLEE]

It does not say 'people', You have added that, bad you.
I believe 1 Peter 3:19, refers to fallen angels, the imprisoned spirits. NOT souls of people.

Typical vivid imagination of the deceived and confused.
When all the dead awake, it will be as they stand before God in Judgment. Rev 20:11-15
1 Corinthians 15:23 does not say 'all' those who belong to Christ will be raised at His Return. We know it will only be the GT martyrs, Rev 20:4
Then verse 24 tells of the end; after the Millennium, when ALL will be raised for Judgment.

Only the souls of the GT martyrs will be resurrected before the GWT Judgment and they too; must stand before God and as their names will be found in the Book of Life, they will receive immortality for Eternity.

What is the purpose of preaching to fallen angels?

 

[keras]

What is the purpose of preaching to fallen angels?

Why ask questions that no human can answer?
In all the Bibles I checked 1 Peter 3:19, says spirits. Spirit beings; not mortal humans.