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Where do philosophical theories exist in the mind?

Discussion in 'Christian Philosophy & Ethics' started by dms1972, Aug 9, 2020.

  1. dms1972

    dms1972 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    My question is about what happens if one embraces a particular philosophy at some time, or more than one. How can one change it? Or how can one live if they have whole hodgepodge of ideas in their mind - how does a philosophy affect one in their living day to day?
     
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  2. Pavel Mosko

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    lol I kind of a text book example of what your talking about. I'm watching a lot of videos from "Philosophies of Life" Youtube channel. And by that I mean Stoicism, Lao Tzu, Nietzsche etc. all tonight.

    A couple of ideas

    1) Utilitarian idea, or as you call it the hodge podge. But I'm watching a lot of different videos just to gain inspiration, some tips etc. This is more a psychological approach that a formal philosophical one because I believe our brains both consciously and unconsciously can latch onto certain ideas etc. that can be helpful when it comes to things that worry us, and otherwise cause us distress etc.


    2) But you can also prioritize them. In some ways, I much more a serious Stoic etc. than the other stuff.


    3) The Logos. You can see what they all have in common and how they compliment each other to make a kind of greater whole, or Logos type truth etc.
     
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  3. public hermit

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    There is philosophy as an academic pursuit and then philosophy as a way of life. Sometimes they are related, but not always. lt's very easy to study ideas, especially when it comes to philosophy, but even so with theology.

    I spent a lot of time just reading and learning, but eventually I had to step back and figure out where I was in all of it and how I wanted to go forward meaningfully. It was like I hit a saturation point, maybe? I just realized that there was a disconnect between my learning and my everyday practice/living.

    I actually sat down and wrote out my position, what I believed to be the case, and what meangingful life meant for me. It was somewhat cathartic and clarifying because I had a lot of noise in my mind that was there but not doing anything.

    At any rate, I definitely made a shift to philosophy as a way of life and not just some academic exersize. I still read and study but I am much more interested in becoming rather than merely learning, if that makes sense.
     
  4. com7fy8

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    I suppose philosophy can mean the study of how things are, and how to be sure of the best way to live.

    For me, in case this answers to what you mean by your question > my basics are that there is God who is self-existing and all-controlling, and interested in personally sharing with us and guiding us in His own peace. And so, I do best to simply always depend on Him to do whatsoever He wants with me in His peace, and do not fool myself into thinking I can do anything really well on my own.

    So, my philosophy has a personal application for everyday life.

    Others might give much attention to philosophy, but they do not have any use for what they think. It is a hobby, maybe something to get their attention away from things and people of their real lives.

    And ones can want things to be a certain way, and so they dictate that things are the way they want. Their character can have a lot to do with how they see fit to see life and reality.

    For example, if philosophy dictators want certain things, they will say that either there is or is not God, depending on which fits with what they dictate they have to have. And whether they decide He exists or not, they can dictate how He is or would have to be, so He fits with what they want. And their character can be their dictator of all this.

    So, a dictator's philosophy, then, can be like the wagging tail of a dog . . . not exactly guiding the doggie.

    Meanwhile, in my case, my philosophy can greatly effect me and my life.
     
  5. honey badger

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    it prevents one from entering further into the truth self is ....
     
  6. Jok

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    I am totally a hodgepodge! It’s like a sensitive antenna or something with me, I will passively read or listen to what a philosopher is saying with very minimal interest, then certain things just grab me and I become extremely interested in certain points. I am the same way with theology. I fit nowhere lol
     
  7. dms1972

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    Have you read any Josef Pieper?
     
  8. dms1972

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    I probably lean towards Stoicism in some respects, but from reading CBT books which share some aspects with stoic philosophy.
     
  9. public hermit

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    I have not, but I'm a fan of Aquinas, who (I just read) influenced Pieper.
     
  10. eleos1954

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    That's why we are fortunate to have the Word of God .... so we don't buy into a bunch of hodgepodge ideas. If we follow in the footsteps of Jesus then we are living in harmony with the creator as He originally created us to live.

    Beware of GIGO (garbage in ... garbage out)

    Colossians 2:8
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    See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, which are based on human tradition and the spiritual forces of the world rather than on Christ.
     
  11. public hermit

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    Epictetus has been a significant influence for me. More so than Marcus Aurelius.
     
  12. Pavel Mosko

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    I haven't read him. The closest thing to that was discussing Martin Heidegger in regards to trying to understand the Nicene construction of the Trinity. Years ago, I was on a Theological Blog and Discussion board, "Theologica" which went off line 6 years or so ago. Their was a retired philosophy professor that posted their, who I chatted with and sometimes debated/argued with etc. But in trying to relate to the Trinity, he suggested covering it Heideger since he was neo-Thomistic theologian / philosopher.

    It was an interesting discussion. Overall it pointed how differently the ancients thought about things than modern people (Who are Nominalistic thinking by culture). When we relate to ancient formulas we have to almost run some kind of emulation software in our minds to relate to it; because, the basic assumptions etc. are so different than how we conceptualize things.
     
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