When is Satan bound?

shilohsfoal · Aug 24, 2018

Dave L said:
You are missing John's point. He uses people, places and things as symbols.

John is not making a point.
This is a book of prophecy ,not a book of points.This is the revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave him to show his servants.Its not a book of johns points.

You can not understand a simple verse.

Revelation 16:16

Dave L · Aug 24, 2018

shilohsfoal said:
John is not making a point.
This is a book of prophecy ,not a book of points.This is the revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave him to show his servants.Its not a book of johns points.

You can not understand a simple verse.

Revelation 16:16

But you cannot understand it reading it like you would a cookbook.

JackRT · Aug 24, 2018

It has taken me a long time to learn that a great deal of the Bible is symbolic and some is even folklore or parabolic.

shilohsfoal · Aug 25, 2018

Dave L said:
But you cannot understand it reading it like you would a cookbook.

If you want to believe the "place "called Armegeddon is the end of the world ,have at it.
But I know its in Israel,and so do the Muslims who plan on going there.

Dave L · Aug 25, 2018

shilohsfoal said:
If you want to believe the "place "called Armegeddon is the end of the world ,have at it.
But I know its in Israel,and so do the Muslims who plan on going there.

It is a symbol. As with all prophecies using literal people, places and things to depict spiritual truth. If our battle is not with flesh and blood, how can it be a literal blood and guts battle?

shilohsfoal · Aug 25, 2018

Dave L said:
It is a symbol. As with all prophecies using literal people, places and things to depict spiritual truth. If our battle is not with flesh and blood, how can it be a literal blood and guts battle?

If you are a participant of the war of Armegeddon as you just said,which one of these are you?

https://biblehub.com/revelation/16-13.htm

Are you the dragon,the beast or the false prophet?

Dave L · Aug 25, 2018

shilohsfoal said:
If you are a participant of the war of Armegeddon as you just said,which one of these are you?

https://biblehub.com/revelation/16-13.htm

Are you the dragon,the beast or the false prophet?

Armageddon is not a literal battle. It is spiritual and happens at the end of the world.

shilohsfoal · Aug 25, 2018

Dave L said:
Armageddon is not a literal battle. It is spiritual and happens at the end of the world.

So your saying the nations will not come against Jerusalem and take it as scripture states?You believe there is no conflict over Jerusalem.

Dave L · Aug 25, 2018

shilohsfoal said:
So your saying the nations will not come against Jerusalem and take it as scripture states?You believe there is no conflict over Jerusalem.

In Revelation 20 Satan (God & Magog) attacks the kingdom at the end. It is not a physical war, it is entirely spiritual.

shilohsfoal · Aug 25, 2018

Dave L said:
In Revelation 20 Satan (God & Magog) attacks the kingdom at the end. It is not a physical war, it is entirely spiritual.

Im not talking about Gog.
ive been discussing the war of Armegeddon.
Its a war over possession of jerusalem.

Two separate occasions devided by 1000 years.

You can't tell them,apart because you dont know enough about them.You should study more somaybe you would learn the difference.

I would bet you dont know what the 1000 years is.

Dave L · Aug 25, 2018

shilohsfoal said:
Im not talking about Gog.
ive been discussing the war of Armegeddon.
Its a war over possession of jerusalem.

Two separate occasions devided by 1000 years.

You can't tell them,apart because you dont know enough about them.You should study more somaybe you would learn the difference.

The 1000 years is a symbol for the binding of Satan. It is not the Kingdom, Satan attacks the kingdom when the 1000 years end.

shilohsfoal · Aug 25, 2018

Dave L said:
The 1000 years is a symbol for the binding of Satan. It is not the Kingdom, Satan attacks the kingdom when the 1000 years end.

No.The 1000 years is one day to God.
It is the seventh day and those who keep it are holy.It is a day of rest and peace for Israel.

I didn't think you would know that either.You really should study more.

https://biblehub.com/2_peter/3-8.htm

Dave L · Aug 25, 2018

shilohsfoal said:
No.The 1000 years is one day to God.
It is the seventh day and those who keep it are holy.It is a day of rest and peace for Israel.

I didn't think you would know that either.You really should study more.

https://biblehub.com/2_peter/3-8.htm

No, the 1000 years is the Binding of Satan. He is loosed when it ends. It is not the kingdom, the kingdom is eternal, not just 1000 years. And Satan attacks the kingdom when the 1000 years end.

shilohsfoal · Aug 25, 2018

Dave L said:
No, the 1000 years is the Binding of Satan. He is loosed when it ends. It is not the kingdom, the kingdom is eternal, not just 1000 years. And Satan attacks the kingdom when the 1000 years end.

So you deny a 1000 years is a day to God.hmmmm

Your the first person ive ever seen deny that fact.

Dave L · Aug 25, 2018

shilohsfoal said:
So you deny a 1000 years is a day to God.hmmmm

Your the first person ive ever seen deny that fact.

You are not being honest to the text.

shilohsfoal · Aug 25, 2018

Dave L said:
You are not being honest to the text.

I said the 1000 years is the Sabbath day and you said no.

You are either denying a day to the Lord is 1000 years or you are denying it is the Sabbath .
If it is not the Sabbath to theLord then which of the six other days is it?

https://biblehub.com/2_peter/3-8.htm

Dave L · Aug 25, 2018

shilohsfoal said:
I said the 1000 years is the Sabbath day and you said no.

You are either denying a day to the Lord is 1000 years or you are denying it is the Sabbath .
If it is not the Sabbath to theLord then which of the six other days is it?

https://biblehub.com/2_peter/3-8.htm

You are adding to Revelation something John does not say.

shilohsfoal · Aug 25, 2018

Dave L said:
You are adding to Revelation something John does not say.

No.John made it very clear,the length of time is 1000 years.
Now are you denying a day to the Lord is 1000 years?
If not.Whrich day is it?
It appears you have no clue and have no answer.If you cant answer the question,iwont ask anymore but will rather converse with those of knowledge.

BABerean2 · Aug 25, 2018

shilohsfoal said:
No.John made it very clear,the length of time is 1000 years.
Now are you denying a day to the Lord is 1000 years?
If not.Whrich day is it?
It appears you have no clue and have no answer.If you cant answer the question,iwont ask anymore but will rather converse with those of knowledge.

The Binding of Satan
https://www.ligonier.org/learn/articles/binding-satan/

Do you want to take all of Revelation chapter 20 "literally"?

Is Satan a giant flying lizard, or is he a fallen angel?

Is the chain that binds Satan in Revelation chapter 20 made of steel, like a chain from the hardware store, or is it made of the blood of Christ?

Is Satan shut up in a hole in the ground with a steel lid containing a sign which says...
"Do Not Disturb for 1,000 Years!", or is Satan prevented from deceiving all the nations because of the Gospel?

Christ returns "in flaming fire" in the passage below, at His Second Coming.
When does the fire come in Revelation chapter 20?

2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
2Th 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
2Th 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

The time of the judgment of the dead, with reward for some and destruction for others is found in Revelation chapter 11.

Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

When does the judgment of the dead come in Revelation chapter 20?

Because Christ returns in Revelation 16:15-16, and also in chapter 19, we know the Book of Revelation is not in chronological order.

Which Jerusalem is Christ fighting for in the Book of Revelation?

Is it the one in the verse below which is spiritually like Sodom and Egypt?

Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Or is Christ fighting for the Jerusalem described below by Paul as the "Jerusalem which is above"?

Gal 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

The Jerusalem in Galatians 4:26 is the same Jerusalem found in Hebrews 11:15-16, and promised to the church in Hebrews 12:22-24.

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