Originally posted by waterwizard
Just wanted to put in my .02 worth:
"Name it and claim it", IMO, is tantamount to us telling God what to do.
"God, I've been serving you, and I go to church all the time, and I've been a good Christian, and I witness to people, and I do all You want me to do, so You have to give me what I pray for!"
Sorry. Ain't gonna happen.
They seem to completely forget that God's will is to be done; and we should pray for His will to be done regardless of what WE want.
Name HIM and claim HIM!!!
Now I need to do some claification of what you believe is the true "name it claim it".
1. You don't have to be good, goto church, or read your bible to do the "name it claim it" style of praying. It isn't something that you have worked for, in fact you don't deserve it. Jesus paid for it, and has given to you freely by His grace, just like salvation.
2. Take a look at my sig, about you have not because you ask not. See how it finishs. If you want money to spend it on yourself, you won't get it, if you want money to bless others, and to take care and provide for you family, you will get it, UNLESS, you can't handle the responsibilitys of it. The bible says "a wise man leaves an inheritance to his grandchildren" in proverbs(sorry don't have my bible here
) It also says, if you listen to the Lord you will not lack anything, and your barns will be filled,and your wine vats also will be filled. Also check out Malichi about titheing.
3. You believe that name it claim it is telling God what to do. So tell me why didn't Peter ask God to heal the crippled man? He said, " I don't have much, but what I do have I will give it to you, now rise up and walk". Why did Jesus say "If you say to this mountain, be cast into the sea, and do not doubt in your heart, this mountain will be cast into the sea"? Jesus said bless and curse not, why? Because your words are powerful, by the grace of God. Life and death are in the power of the tongue.
The best way I can explian it is, by natural means. Ok you goto an electric company and pay for electric. They turn on the electric, now you go home and there it is, power in your house. You have everything given to you to turn on the light, all you have to do is hit the switch, because you have authority to do it. But instead of doing it, you call up the power company, and beg them to turn on the light, saying " oh please, turn on the light for me". Guess what? There not going to do it, no matter how much you ask, and beg, because you have everything you need to do it yourself.
Jesus said go and make disciples out of all the nations, cast demons, and heal the sick(I think that last part is there ??). So we have authority by grace through faith to get things done here on earth.
Now this is a rough way of explaining how "name it claim it" works. You could paint many things that could make it look evil, but there are many things that Gods will is very clear, and He wants you by faith, to change them through prayer.
So because it is such a big topic, ask alot of questions, and even paint whatever kind of situation you want. And I will try to line it up with the word of God.