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[SarahsKnight]

One more day of work, just one more day ....

 

[bèlla]

I think our lives in the year 2030 will be unrecognisable from how they were in 2019, pre-covid.

How are you preparing for that?

 

[.Mikha'el.]

How do you change relationship status?

You have to take out a support ticket using the Contact Us link at the bottom. Hello and welcome from a fellow Canadian.

 

[VanillaLion]

Thank you @.Mikha'el.

 

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[Rigatoni]

Thanks for the follow, @VanillaLion ^-^

 

[VanillaLion]

You're welcome @Rigatoni

 

[VanillaLion]

Guys watch the videos I posted =]

 

[bèlla]

Guys watch the videos I posted =]

Welcome to the site VanillaLion. I hope your time here is fun and edifying!

I'm familiar with his work. The Wait was really good! So was Hollywood Commandments. Have you read them? I didn't get around to reading Produced by Faith. But I may cover it in January. It's a great option for the new year.

 

[JustSomeBloke]

How are you preparing for that?

I'm not sure that it's possible to prepare for it. Possibly you could buy some land, and try to live off-grid, growing everything you need and keeping chickens. But at some point you may be involuntarily forced back into the system. For example, you need medical or dental treatment, or something essential breaks, and you can't buy another one. Possibly you could do it as part of a larger commune, where everyone pools their resources and skills. That might work if you lived like the Amish communities, because they have simple lives, and less need for things that require complex highly modern manufacturing.

Whatever you choose, one thing is certain, much of the improvements in living standards and leisure life from the Second World War onwards are about to be erased. A lot of this is about zero carbon, which means that only the rich and privileged will be able to fly and drive cars. If I had to sum it up, what's coming is Green Totalitarian Technocracy. Maybe there will be an element of medical technocracy too, in the form of vaccines and vaccine passports. However, the medical part may turn out to be the tool that was used to kick-start the Green Totalitarian Technocracy. I say that because simply telling people that they can no longer fly and drive was impossible, so they needed a cover story for stopping air travel. After a few years of uneconomic operation, the international travel industry will simply collapse. When that happens, many large passenger aircraft will be decommissioned and scrapped, smaller regional airports will close, jet fuel production facilities will be shut down, mothballed, and eventually dismantled. Once all that happens, it would take an absolutely huge effort to restart, and massive investment would be required. So it's safe to say that it's not coming back until electric or hydrogen aircraft are viable, and that could take decades.

And I'm not sure it's worth worrying about it. Whatever happens will be determined by the majority of the population. As an individual, I am not jumping off the vaccination passport cliff that leads to totalitarianism, but if enough other people behave like lemmings and do so, then their action has the power to drag me down with them. For example, here in the UK, tens of millions of people who were not particularly at risk from covid have accepted the vaccines. The carrot was that they were expecting to be allowed to travel, and fly away for holidays after they were vaccinated. Except that hasn't happened. Quarantine requirements still apply, even if you took two doses. And a lot of people are very angry about that, because it feels like they did everything the government said, but they still didn't get any freedom back. The government are already talking about booster jabs in the autumn, but as nobody has got anything out of the first two jabs, maybe that part of the plan will fail.

And the government are currently trying to coerce young people into getting vaccinated, by saying that you won't be able to enter a night club without full vaccination. The deadline is September, so they're clearly timing it to give enough time for them to get vaccinated, and coincide with the resumption of student life. Most people don't visit night clubs, and may also take a dim view of the sort of people that do, so night clubs are an easy first target. However, if that requirement is expanded to bars, pubs, and restaurants, then we'll find out how willing people are to become locked into a never ending merry-go-round of vaccinations in order to retain the right to socialise. In France there have been huge protests over the same thing, but you can bet that they'll try again in a few months when the weather is colder, and people are less inclined to take to the streets.

 

[bèlla]

I'm not sure that it's possible to prepare for it. Possibly you could buy some land, and try to live off-grid, growing everything you need and keeping chickens.

Something is better than nothing. If 2030 is the projected time that's 9 years. You'd need to learn how to work the land and become self-sufficient. Whether you do it or not. The skills are good to have.

That might work if you lived like the Amish communities, because they have simple lives, and less need for things that require complex highly modern manufacturing.

You don't have to be Amish to live around them. There's non Amish in the area. They provide the services they're not allowed to do themselves. Like driving. At the very least you'll learn to drive a horse and buggy.

Which means that only the rich and privileged will be able to fly and drive cars.

They aren't affected by the passports. The French restrictions made it evident. They aren't flying commercially or shopping in malls. Restaurants are debatable. But certain ones may be fair game.

And I'm not sure it's worth worrying about it. Whatever happens will be determined by the majority of the population.

This was on the horizon for awhile. References to the Gilded Age kept cropping up. Coupled with the growing prevalence of the sharing economy. I knew we were going backwards.

I'm not worried. I'm doing what needs to be done. But I know the fallout will be bad. Nevertheless, God's got it. I'm doing my part and He'll handle the rest.

This is a time for prayer and seeking the Lord's wisdom for your circumstances. He knows what's on the horizon.

 

[VanillaLion]

@bèlla Thank you And no I have not read them but I want to =]

 

[sampa]

Examples:
1. You've already bought three bags of sugary sweets so far this week. The government's digital currency server says no to a fourth bag until your weight has been checked.
2. You were tracked to an anti-government protest. Your travel privileges are revoked for the next ninety days.
3. Your vaccination record is not up to date. No entry to any bars, clubs, or concerts.
4. Your spending history shows that you have visited bars and bought alcohol five days out of the last seven. All alcohol purchases are blocked for the next seven days.

I've seen this has already sort of in place in China. There's cameras that do face recognition and give citizens points for good behavior and take away points for bad behavior. Usually it's behavior that is done out in a public place. Facebook is an example of face recognition, but imagine cameras on each street corner and we get points for good and bad behavior. Which may give us some currency. If we're headed in the direction I think we are with inflation being high, and people already play games, who knows how many people will fake good behavior just to earn points.

in living standards and leisure life from the Second World War onwards are about to be erased.

Yikes.

they were expecting to be allowed to travel, and fly away for holidays after they were vaccinated. Except that hasn't happened.

Yes I noticed that. I'm thinking that's one of the reasons the CDC was trying to have them hold off on the booster. Because they haven't convinced some people to have the first shot. Those that haven't, making the booster shot part of it, could deter an even larger number from ever doing it. I have a friend that has been wanting to go to the UK to see someone but he is waiting for quarantine restrictions to be lifted. He got the vaccine just for that reason.

maybe that part of the plan will fail.

it's possible.

vaccinated, by saying that you won't be able to enter a night club without full vaccination. The

I heard that the other day. It's interesting to see how this will all play out...

However, if that requirement is expanded to bars, pubs, and restaurants, then we'll find out how willing people are to

Yes

Something is better than nothing. If 2030 is the projected time that's 9 years. You'd need to learn how to work the land and become self-sufficient. Whether you do it or not. The skills are good to have.

I agree! I started in 2009 growing my first Garden with the help of a landlord. And I've built off of that over the years at three different addresses. I'm still not at the level of canning or those things but I think I've come a long way in about 10 years. I usually end up giving away what I grow, I don't have much patience with cooking and preserving.

 

[JustSomeBloke]

Something is better than nothing. If 2030 is the projected time that's 9 years. You'd need to learn how to work the land and become self-sufficient. Whether you do it or not. The skills are good to have.

They'll get you one way or another. Do you think totalitarians enjoy seeing people getting by outside of their wretched, dystopian system? A land tax is all it takes to ruin everything for people living off-grid. Sorry if you think that's a negative assessment, but I think it's a realistic outlook. I can hold out until they stop me from earning money, accessing money I've already earned, or buying food. After that it's game over. Starve, or be subsumed into the system.

 

[bèlla]

They'll get you one way or another. Do you think totalitarians enjoy seeing people getting by outside of their wretched, dystopian system? A land tax is all it takes to ruin everything for people living off-grid. Sorry if you think that's a negative assessment, but I think it's a realistic outlook. I can hold out until they stop me from earning money, accessing money I've already earned, or buying food. After that it's game over. Starve, or be subsumed into the system.

I'm not worried about them. Who do you think I'm dealing with?

There will always be a demand for goods and services. They'll limit producers. That's what's happening now.

They're not going to stop eating, drinking, traveling, wearing fine items, etc. The same held true in earlier times. They were living it up. That's not going to change.

 

[bèlla]

I agree! I started in 2009 growing my first Garden with the help of a landlord. And I've built off of that over the years at three different addresses. I'm still not at the level of canning or those things but I think I've come a long way in about 10 years. I usually end up giving away what I grow, I don't have much patience with cooking and preserving.

That's good. You'll be able to adapt to changes more readily than others. I'm glad I worked on the farm and learned a lot over the years. Now its come in handy. I can focus on others things now.

 

[sampa]

That's good. You'll be able to adapt to changes more readily than others. I'm glad I worked on the farm and learned a lot over the years. Now its come in handy. I can focus on others things now.

Yes, I at least hope so. And I didn't just start from scratch. I do have some knowledge from growing up. Our garden was quite big on the three and a half acres that we had. I hated it growing up but it has been useful as I've tried to do things on my own. I think the size of what I have right now is quite a lot bigger than your average person. There's other ways that I've learned and read over the years, and I tried to stock and keep things somewhat if the economy was to suddenly get bad. Like dried beans and rice and such. I was fortunate when the pandemic hit that I had quite a few things stocked initially, I still had to stock up more though. I've read prepper books and gone to a proper society canning event, but I've only devoted so much time to it. Whenever the electricity goes out because of a storm or something, that's about the time that I break out my survival books and start reading under the emergency lights that I have and making a list again of what I might need.

 

[sampa]

Hoping to get some good sleep tonight. I really think I need it to think more straight. And some discernment.

As I returned in person to the workplace, I have seen some guys who have seemed interested... Maybe it's just the euphora of seeing everyone in person. Quite a few new employees and changes that I have happened in a year and a half.

Yesterday I got a message from somebody at work about a guy that we had volunteered with at a state park last fall together. There was camping after and she wanted me to go... She said it was because there was a guy that was interested in me I had volunteered with. She said he is now working in her Department and thought he might be of interest to me. Unfortunately I can't place a face to jog my memory. She thinks he's of interest because he's nice and an Engineer. But she's mentioned nothing about faith, and I think workplace relationships can be quite sticky.

Situation number two is a guy that was at my high school reunion. I saw him at the 25-year reunion, and I was not impressed with his arrogance. We did not connect at that time, and as far as I knew he had married his high school sweetheart. And in high school I did not know much about him. There were 200 people in my graduating class. Anyways he seemed to quietly express interest by being around me, and I finally talked to him at the end of the evening. We have a mutual friend, and I kind of noticed on social media that he might have been looking at my page even though we weren't friends. At the end of the evening he said it would be nice to have dinner sometime. And today he messaged me.. I still don't know enough about his story. I do know his house is supposed to be across from the church I go to. Which is 45 minutes from me and I will be leaving eventually when I find a local one... Since I moved away right before the pandemic. I'm starting to visit churches now. Anyways I just hope that I make the right decisions and that I will have kind considerations for those involved.

 

[bèlla]

I was fortunate when the pandemic hit that I had quite a few things stocked initially, I still had to stock up more though.

Same here. I'd compiled a list of direct sources for food and other things. I was able to avoid mainstream retailers and get it from the manufacturer or grower. That made things easier.

I've read prepper books and gone to a proper society canning event, but I've only devoted so much time to it. Whenever the electricity goes out because of a storm or something, that's about the time that I break out my survival books and start reading under the emergency lights that I have and making a list again of what I might need.

We have a backup generator. But I have alternative lighting. When a new building goes up they cut the power for a bit to turn it on. I don't consider myself a prepper. I contemplated homesteading and living green expanded my knowledge.