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Wouldn't praying for intercession from the passed saints be like if the ancient Jews prayed for intercession from passed Moses or Elijah?
Prayers to the saints originated with the Jews, not the pagans - S I L O U A N (silouanthompson.net)

Rachel Weeps in Ramah: Of All the Patriarchs, God Listens Only to Her - TheTorah.com

I found these by searching "ancient jews intercession saints". Pretty interesting stuff from what I skim read. The part about Rachel is related to a specific verse, "And immediately the mercy of the Lord was stirred and He said: For you, Rachel, I will restore Israel to her place. For it was said: 'A voice is heard in Ramah...'" - Jeremiah 31:15-17

The second link gets into the context of it.

"Eichah Rabbah is not the only rabbinic text that envisions the patriarchs, matriarchs, and Moses beseeching God on behalf of their exiled descendants. As noted above, it appears briefly Genesis Rabbah (and in Pesiqta Rabbati), and can also be found in the liturgical poetry (piyyut) ascribed to Elazar HaKallir, one of the greatest poets of Late Antiquity, and recited on Tisha Be’Av."
 
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Prayers to the saints originated with the Jews, not the pagans - S I L O U A N (silouanthompson.net)

Rachel Weeps in Ramah: Of All the Patriarchs, God Listens Only to Her - TheTorah.com

I found these by searching "ancient jews intercession saints". Pretty interesting stuff from what I skim read. The part about Rachel is related to a specific verse, "And immediately the mercy of the Lord was stirred and He said: For you, Rachel, I will restore Israel to her place. For it was said: 'A voice is heard in Ramah...'" - Jeremiah 31:15-17

The second link gets into the context of it.

"Eichah Rabbah is not the only rabbinic text that envisions the patriarchs, matriarchs, and Moses beseeching God on behalf of their exiled descendants. As noted above, it appears briefly Genesis Rabbah (and in Pesiqta Rabbati), and can also be found in the liturgical poetry (piyyut) ascribed to Elazar HaKallir, one of the greatest poets of Late Antiquity, and recited on Tisha Be’Av."
Interesting. It was a thought occurred to me last night. Tried to do some more research just now & 1st few pages of Google all written by Catholics. As a Protestant, not gonna lie, makes me think we drew our line too harsh on it.....
(Not the Jeremiah or Enoch passages, but stuff they claim dates back to VERY early churches that did it)

Heck, I just searched 'Protestant saint intercession' & it's all Catholic articles on Google (I'm not surprised at that). I'll have to do some more research sometime.
 
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No worries, man. It was just a joke.

I mean, there really was a bruise that reached nearly all the way around my wrist yesterday, but, it's already gone; I didn't seriously worry that I had some weird Japanese folklore curse befall me.

I'm just glad you're OK. Hallelujah!
 
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:hug: I've been doing okay. Staying busy. My knee is getting much better. I lost another 17 pounds. How are you doing?
Am glad to hear! :) That's awesome that your knee is doing better and that's also some amazing progress!!!!!!:hoho:

I have been alright! Some stuff was going on lately, but things are a bit better now. ^_^
 
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In Florida there are some Catholic family members. It's making me anxious!
Just enjoy yourself and enjoy their company!!!! :) I have family members who are Jehovah's witnesses, Lutherans, Catholics, Non-denominational Christians, Native Americans, Skeptics, Pagans, and other beliefs, when we have get togethers we all enjoy seeing each other again and beliefs don't usually even come up. At the end of the day we all are still very human, regardless of what opinions we may have. :) I love sharing a heart to heart conversation with others, you can learn so much from others and sometimes get to see things from a fresh perspective, even if you don't see things the same way. :)
 
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Just enjoy yourself and enjoy their company!!!! :) I have family members who are Jehovah's witnesses, Lutherans, Catholics, Non-denominational Christians, Native Americans, Skeptics, Pagans, and other beliefs, when we have get togethers we all enjoy seeing each other again and beliefs don't usually even come up. At the end of the day we all are still very human, regardless of what opinions we may have. :) I love sharing a heart to heart conversation with others, you can learn so much from others and sometimes get to see things from a fresh perspective, even if you don't see things the same way. :)
It's never an issue, we never really talk about our beliefs

BUT we will be down there for Good Friday & Easter (Resurrection Sunday). Will they invite us to Mass? Should I accept? (yes, I believe I should accept if they ask, but it will be awkward anyways)
 
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In particular, where I was once working just working from last night to Monday night, just turned into me getting out of my first night shift of seven in a row. This is going to suck.

Just got out from the last night. I am free!

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ....!!!!
 
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I’m working on shelf stable items. I don’t like canned food (I’ll tolerate tomatoes or beans for chili). We need meals and ingredients I can throw together or heat up in a pinch.
Some will be ready to eat or require water and a little cooking.

I had a feeling you’d like it. I’m looking forward to hearing your insights. You’re in the right place to receive the message.

I'm not much for canned food either, even less when I found out there is Bisphenol A or BPA in the cans used for canned food, wich unfortunately does go into the food aswell.
I'm all for food that can be done in a pinch.

I'm looking forward to tell you all about it.



Just got out from the last night. I am free!

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ....!!!!

I imagine you leaving work like this.

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Edit. The gif doesn't work.


Hope everyone has a good day here!! :)

Thanks and to you too.
 
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That song reminds me of how you must be feeling now. :p


You've come to know me well over the years here. I was singing that song while going back and forth at work the other night, deliberately in front of the two guys working next door to me, as a joking way of expressing my ... light displeasure, shall we say ... at the fact that I was still at work on the fifth night in a row.


Well, better than if I were locked into seven day shifts in a row like the other person unfortunately was thanks to this overtime situation that befell the two of us.

... Oh, and I found out why we had to in the first place; the A-crew person simply jammed her thumb.

Not broke it. Just "jammed" it. :cityh: When I found out, I said to the others, "well, I banged my knee up against something earlier before coming into work and it still hurts. Does that mean I can have two weeks off now, too?"


..... Oh well. Back to sleep. G'night.:boredsleep:
 
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