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Catholic food?You talking the bread and the wine or ravolis here? I never heard Italian food as being Catholic lol
This is where the Lord interupts and says I have meat to eat you know not of(heavenly, cellestrial, not of this world) earthly food.
No.
But we committed crimes to so its pointless (and trust me it will be even more ugly if I bring numbers) to argue who did more evil. In all this, only one thing is good on our side: Serbs never baptized muslims or RCs while holding them at gunpoint.
nestoj
God helps
Wrong on all counts. The Byzantine Empire stopped Islam from spreading into Europe after their rapid expansion in the 7th and 8th centuries. You can thank the Orthodox for that.
The Byzantine Emperors asked the Pope for help in a small amount of knights more or less as mercenaries to help fight the Muslm Turks not to ask them to betray, rape and murder the most Christian city in the world in Constantinople. The actual Crusades did jack squat historically speaking to stop Islam as it had already reached its furtherest expansions with the exception of the eventual fall of Constantinople.
It helps if we know how eachother defines things. Just looking at the issue of praying to saints is evidence of that.
We must, above all else, remember that our unity is in Christ. He needs to be at the center of any and all discussions. This is something I know I need to remember.
God bless
Jay
Uh-oh.... LOL
to lay this "myth" to rest, I recommend the following:
Regimen, (400 BC) -possibly authored by Hippocrates
the (culinary) writings of Archestratos (Greek, of Sicily) 350 BC
the culinary writings of Athenaeus (200 AD) which collects ancient recipies (the sources for this are no longer extant) which includes the early use of what is now Phyllo dough used for both meat dishes and nut sweets
IIRC 'Italian' food came about when Rome carried off Greek cooks as slaves.
It is the earliest (6th century) icon of Christ to survive the Iconoclastic heresy (many many icons were destroyed). You probably know this -- it still (I think) survives at St. Catherine's monastery.Well, yeah all Christians are catholic ultimately. Even us heretic Protestants!
Thanks. It is my favourite icon of Christ. Simple yet beautiful.
I just love how it captures both the loving Shepherd and the righteous Judge all at once. Very powerful.
Certainly this is an unbiased opinion.
Love,
Christina
aHEM ! post # 71, pleaseI'm just saying countrys with majority population Catholic have much better food and culture.
Current Roman Catholic mass was written in 1969 and really is the "bare bones" of their method of worship.Uphill Battle said:What is the distinct differences that would be cause for concern/problems?
Not sure about wrong, per se, but we don't. There's theology behind it, but going into depth would derail the thread into a debate about instruments or no instruments.UB said:So, the EO position is that it's wrong to worship using musical instruments?
A Council can undo decisions from a previous Council. One example is in the early 8th century they declared all icons destroyed; thus starting the Iconoclasm days, in 787 with the Second Ecumenical Council at Nicaea, they declared that icons are ok. Unfortunately some Protestants only recognize the first provincial council and not the later Ecumenical Council while not realizing the difference!UB said:another interesting hypothetical. Could an ex cathedra undo a previous ex cathedra.... hmmm.
Thats simply not true, the Eastern Empire was on the verge of collapse, Turks had expanded accrost most of it's money generating territory accrost Arabia and had their sights set on what is now Istanbul. Given it had great defenses and would have been a hard city to take, the Turks very well would have eventually taken it, long before 145? when the Ottomans did. The Crusades beat back the Muslims from Europe's doorsteps and delt them a blow that it would take nearly 400 yaers for them to recover from, in which allowed Europe to progress rapidly allowing for the army's of Europe to come to a level which was a capable of repelling the Muslims once they broke though.
The Eastern empire tryed to emulate it's creator, but it never could. At it's strongest times it was a small empire centered around a few strong cities, with a significant amount of tributary citys surrounding it and a strong slave army with a core of professional soilders. But it never reached the power and domination that the Roman Empire/Republic held.
Psst! Or maybe Turkish food is influenced by Greek food because the Greeks were all over the Eastern Mediterranean for a looooong time an the Turks hailed from the Steppe over near current day Uzbekistan and the other 'Stans. Then when the Seljuk Turks came around, they kicked the Greeks out. The Ottomans came from the Seljuks and merely continued the kicking out of Greeks.Im sure all food of the region has connections to other regions, but the vast majority of Greek food is really just Greek renditions of Turkish food. Most of the early Greek city states were in Turkey and heavily influenced by Turkish culture. It was the heavy influence of southern cultures that created Greeces cuisine.
Italian food is generally unique, especially in the south and it does have some influences. It would be a stretch to say that it is a copy of any other region.
Im sure all food of the region has connections to other regions, but the vast majority of Greek food is really just Greek renditions of Turkish food. Most of the early Greek city states were in Turkey and heavily influenced by Turkish culture. It was the heavy influence of southern cultures that created Greeces cuisine.
Italian food is generally unique, especially in the south and it does have some influences. It would be a stretch to say that it is a copy of any other region.
Hi. Why can't you give a view here? Don't catholics and Orthodox believe Christians are the "New Israel"?Little lamb,
Personally, I do not know. If you wish for more Orthodox to see your question, then please post it in TAW so you can get more feedback.
Love,
Christina
How widely available were the Scriptures back then to the "masses"?I highly suggest the following:
http://www.amazon.com/Byzantium-Centuries-John-Julius-Norwich/dp/0701737785
Its very readable and provides a fascinating view of life back then including all of the early Christian heresies and struggles. Its the first book in his Byzantium trilogy.
Really? So Greek, Russian, Middle Eastern and Slavic culture isn't good enough for you?
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