What will happen if Trump loses the election?

[timothyu]

If Trump were to be defeated in the electoral college in spite of winning the popular vote I can actually envision many on the right becoming violent. And Donald Trump is sufficiently unstable enough that it is even possible that he would refuse to leave office.

You must remember that those of the RR (religious right) in DC mentor and are aligned with him in purpose (not Christian), even though they do the same with all Presidents. The object is power, not who heads it.

 

[Cimorene]

But they'll quietly accept the results, right? Just as they're doing now?

More gracefully than Trump has accepted the results of losing the popular vote by historic margins yrs ago & the loss of the House in the last national election.

 

[Albion]

If Trump were to be defeated in the electoral college in spite of winning the popular vote I can actually envision many on the right becoming violent.

That is the one scenario that is really not very likely.

It is just not in the nature of conservatives, moderates, Constitutionalists, and similar people to behave like revolutionaries. Leftists, by contrast, have "change the established order" as their main objective. It comes automatically with their ideology.

 

[Albion]

More gracefully than Trump has accepted the results of losing the popular vote by historic margins yrs ago

He actually took it quite gracefully. And of course, he could have won the popular vote if it was the popular vote that elects a president in our country instead of the Electoral College.

So there would be no reason for him to be grouchy about losing the popular vote except, I suppose, by way of reacting to the outrageous claims made by the losing side that somehow they had been cheated out of the victory.

 

[Cimorene]

In the campaign of 2016 Trump made a suggestion that if he were not elected there would be riots in the streets. At the same time some on the right were suggesting that President Obama would not step down and would seize power --- remember all that Jade Helm nonsense?

If Trump were to be defeated in the electoral college in spite of winning the popular vote I can actually envision many on the right becoming violent. And Donald Trump is sufficiently unstable enough that it is even possible that he would refuse to leave office.

He whined nonstop about the process being "rigged" but now Republicans are rigging the system against him by pushing that there be no Republican primaries in their state even though there's Republican challengers.

The EC pretty much is gerrymandered so that it'd be almost impossible for there to be a reversal of what happened in 2016. But yeah this is a man who goes ape over a tweet so yeah if he was the one who somehow magically won the popular vote but lost the EC he'd definitely go apoplectic.

ETA
Republicans are canceling primaries. Is Trump afraid of something?

 

[Aldebaran]

More gracefully than Trump has accepted the results of losing the popular vote by historic margins yrs ago & the loss of the House in the last national election.

I don't know about that. The MSM and the late night talk show hosts still seem rather irritated about it. Oh, and the House leadership, not to mention the democrat presidential candidates. Then there's the climate change enthusiasts, and the anti-gun crowd, not to mention those who want America to be a socialist nation, and Antifa, just to name a few. The riots after the election and during the inauguration were hardly "graceful".

 

[Aldebaran]

He whined nonstop about the process being "rigged" but now Republicans are rigging the system against him by pushing that there be no Republican primaries even though there's Republican challengers.

The EC pretty much is gerrymandered so that it'd be almost impossible for there to be a reversal of what happened in 2016. But yeah this is a man who goes ape over a tweet so yeah if he was the one who somehow magically won the popular vote but lost the EC he'd definitely go apoplectic.

If the Republican candidates who want to run against Trump have any real chance of beating him, then why aren't they being promoted by the MSM? As it is now, almost nobody even knows their names unless we google them. OTOH, it's easy to name most of the democrat party contenders.

 

[Cimorene]

He actually took it quite gracefully. And of course, he could have won the popular vote if it was the popular vote that elects a president in our country instead of the Electoral College.

Was this intended to be sarcastic? Trump took it the opposite of gracefully, whining about it for YEARS, wasting money on a "voter fraud" commission that had Republicans in it tell him to go jump in the Gulf of Mexico bc it was so OTT ludicrous & pathetic beyond all repair.

He didn't lose the popular vote by a teeny tiny amount like how Bush did long ago. He lost by millions.

 

[Albion]

The EC pretty much is gerrymandered so that it'd be almost impossible for there to be a reversal of what happened in 2016.

It is impossible to gerrymander the Electoral College.

 

[bekkilyn]

It's often said that Republicans voted for Trump just because they wanted a Republican in the White House. However, the exact same things is happening on the other side already; people saying that they don't care who the democrat nominee is, they will vote for them just to get rid of Trump.
Dem voters care more about beating Trump than any one policy issue

And this irrelevant #whataboutism changes my point in what way?

 

[Albion]

Was this intended to be sarcastic? Trump took it the opposite of gracefully, whining about it for YEARS, wasting money on a "voter fraud" commission that had Republicans in it tell him to go jump in the Gulf of Mexico bc it was so OTT ludicrous & pathetic beyond all repair.

And do you recall that the opposition steadfastly insisted that there was no vote fraud...but now after so many instances of it have come to light, even they have had to retract that claim.

He didn't lose the popular vote by a teeny tiny amount like how Bush did long ago. He lost by millions.

As I said, it doesn't matter, since the popular vote isn't what elects. You cannot seriously blame him for going after the Electoral College votes, unlike Hillary, when it is the Electoral College that chooses the president.

 

[Cimorene]

I don't know about that. The MSM and the late night talk show hosts still seem rather irritated about it. Oh, and the House leadership, not to mention the democrat presidential candidates. Then there's the climate change enthusiasts, and the anti-gun crowd, not to mention those who want America to be a socialist nation, and Antifa, just to name a few. The riots after the election and during the inauguration were hardly "graceful".

If you don't know about that, you desperately need to find better sources of information. Of course people were "irritated" that the candidate who lost by millions of votes still won the election. I mean no duh about that. But they moved on, whereas Trump continued to whine. Trump is the sort of person who literally has tantrums about late night comedians making jokes about him. About SNL. He had a stupid tantrum over the weekend bc his ego wasn't fed enough & tried to bully celebrities about it. Who hilariously shut him down over it.

Climate change enthusiasts? IOW people who are unbelievably ignorant & gullible about the facts of climate change & wanting to actually do something about it? It shouldn't be a Republican or Democrat issue.

Anti-gun crowd? The majority of Americans support reasonable gun control reform but the minority of the unreasonable who only listen to the NRA-lead propaganda about it refuse to learn about details & instead stomp around whining that a total ban of all guns is being called for, when that's not the truth.

The largest single-day marches in American history were to protest Donald Trump. They were mostly peaceful. Trump wants to whine about the naughty language used on some signs or whatever when he has used profanity & acted in profane ways.

 

[Albion]

...but now Republicans are rigging the system against him by pushing that there be no Republican primaries even though there's Republican challengers.

No Republican primaries? Now you are simply inventing things; and by the way the party of the incumbent cancelled some of the primaries in the case of Obama, Bush, Clinton, and other earlier presidents. As usual, a non-issue is being fanned into some fake scandal only because the president is Donald Trump.

 

[Aldebaran]

And this irrelevant #whataboutism changes my point in what way?

My goal isn't to change your point. It was to address it.

Here is what you said when you originally made your point:

If Trump did do these things and refused to step down and declared himself President for life or some such, I fully expect that those who bend their knees to Trump now will continue to make up all the same excuses in support of his actions, i.e., "The alternative would be be worse."

Notice the part I have indicated.
What you conveniently and dismissively refer to as a "whataboutism" (one of the latest tactics we've come to expect when someone doesn't have a substantive response) is an example of how the other side is using the exact same type of reasoning that "The alternative is worse".

If you require further explanation, click the link I provided in my previous post.

 

[Aldebaran]

No Republican primaries? Now you are simply inventing things; and by the way the party of the incumbent cancelled some of the primaries in the case of Obama, Bush, Clinton, and other earlier presidents. As usual, a non-issue is being fanned into some fake scandal only because the president is Donald Trump.

Not to mention that primaries usually happen after the debates are over. The democrats haven't had any primaries (yet) either. But in due time....

 

[Cimorene]

And do you recall that the opposition steadfastly insisted that there was no vote fraud...but now after so many instances of it have come to light, even they have had to retract that claim.

Yes, I recall a tiny % of ppl steadfastly insisting that there was no vote fraud. There were a handful of memorable cases that came to light, like Trump praising the man who illegally voted for him. There was not widespread voter fraud as Trump repeatedly deceptively claimed.

As I said, it doesn't matter, since the popular vote isn't what elects. You cannot seriously blame him for going after the Electoral College votes, unlike Hillary, when it is the Electoral College that chooses the president.

Clearly Trump doesn't agree with you that it doesn't matter considering that he has continued to obsess over it for yrs. It definitely matters what the people choose even if the results don't reflect that choice.

 

[Cimorene]

No Republican primaries? Now you are simply inventing things; and by the way the party of the incumbent cancelled some of the primaries in the case of Obama, Bush, Clinton, and other earlier presidents. As usual, a non-issue is being fanned into some fake scandal only because the president is Donald Trump.

Nope, I'm not inventing anything. Several states are pushing that there be now Republican primaries.

Did Presidents Obama, Bush & Clinton have challengers on the level of Trump's when their parties canceled the primaries????

As usual, an absolute issue is being dismissed only by Trump supporters.

 

[Cimorene]

Not to mention that primaries usually happen after the debates are over. The democrats haven't had any primaries (yet) either. But in due time....

You realize that the primaries are organized in advance, correct?

 

[Albion]

Yes, I recall a tiny % of ppl steadfastly insisting that there was no vote fraud.

Is that what you call the Democratic National Committee--"a tiny % of ppl?"

 

[Cimorene]

It is impossible to gerrymander the Electoral College.

Was this meant to be facetious too? I mean....