What was reformed?

[b4jesustoday]

Who worships idols in the holy name of Jesus?

 

[b4jesustoday]

How do I become born again?

 

[b4jesustoday]

How do you become born again?

 

[All Glory To God]

How can there be more than one true church?

one true God!
One true savior!
One new and eternal covenant!
One king!
One kingdom!
One vineyard!
One household of faith!
One mountain of the house of the Lord!
One body of Christ!
One shepherd and one flock!
And one, Holy, Catholic, and apostolic church founded by Jesus Christ on Peter And the apostles and their successors!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Jn 8:32 Jn 16:13
Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20 acts 1

the one true church is the spotless bride of Christ, the heavenly Jerusalem and our mother!

Don't forget there is one mediator as well.

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus

So why is the guy in Rome posing as vicar on earth or the one mediator? One of them is a false Christ. And the church is Gods people spread all over the world.

 

[b4jesustoday]

If I read the scriptures correctly Peter's faith, though undoubted was not entirely rocklike, and he would soon enough deny Jesus 3 times. I think Jesus builds his Church on the faith of his followers, which actually makes sense on the keys passage. That would make the rock faith in Jesus as Messiah and Son Of God.

Peter and the apostles and their successors are not impeccable!

Jesus is the cornerstone the apostles the foundation eph 2:20 and we are the living stones

you don’t give the keys to a confession of faith but to a person Peter!

Israel had the chair of Moses held by his successors with the keys and binding and loosing mt 23 and Jesus commanded them to be obeyed, then Peter the apostles and their successors received the this authority keys binding loosing etc. under the king!

mt 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

45 And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.

It is a kingdom
Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Jesus Christ founded one true church
Mt 16:18 Jn 10:16

Christ continues His ministry thru His church thru His apostles and their successors!

Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19

Jn 8:32 Jn 16:13

Jn 20:21-22
Acts 1 eph 2:20

 

[b4jesustoday]

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus

Amen! No one ever claimed that Peter the apostles and their successors are God, or Christ, or mediator! But the personal representatives of Him!
Vicar of Christ implies that Christ continues His ministry thru Peter and his successors! Christ is the head of the church, Peter and his successors govern the church / kingdom in the absence of the king! See Is 22 mt 26:18 Jn 21:17
Jesus is the good shepherd Jn 10:16

 

[Dave L]

Who worships idols in the holy name of Jesus?

I believe most do today. The name doesn't fit the biblical profile.

 

[b4jesustoday]

Worship and of anything but the one true God is forbidden!

What is worship?

 

[Dave L]

Worship and of anything but the one true God is forbidden!

What is worship?

Idols of the imagination.

 

[b4jesustoday]

1 Timothy 3:15
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

 

[fhansen]

You must be born again before you can stop worshiping idols in Jesus' name. The flesh cannot choose the things of the Spirit.

That places the timing of events out of sync. No one is suddenly overwhelmed and born again, and then caused to remain in that state with no choice in the matter. Man cannot turn himself towards God but he can still refuse to be turned, or can turn back away later. No one has 100% certainty of salvation to begin with, and no one can predict their own perseverance anyway.

 

[Dave L]

That places the timing of events out of sync. No one is suddenly overwhelmed and born again, and then caused to remain in that state with no choice in the matter. Man cannot turn himself towards God but he can still refuse to be turned, or can turn back away later. No one has 100% certainty of salvation to begin with, and no one can predict their own perseverance anyway.

It depends on how sinful we are. Scripture says we are dead in spiritual matters and cannot discern the true Christ. At that level, we only perceive a false hope in a church, or a false Christ to save us. True faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit we must have as being saved before we can recognize Christ and believe in truth.

 

[b4jesustoday]

Acts 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

 

[fhansen]

It depends on how sinful we are. Scripture says we are dead in spiritual matters and cannot discern the true Christ. At that level, we only perceive a false hope in a church, or a false Christ to save us. True faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit we must have as being saved before we can recognize Christ and believe in truth.

Faith is a gift, and, as with any gift, it can be rejected at any point. We can refuse to believe, we can oppose the movement of the Spirt in us, or believe and not confess our faith out of fear of others as per John12:42, or believe now but turn away later, refusing to remain in Christ (John 15:5). But as we do respond, faith begets more faith, along with hope and love, grace leading to more grace. Again, God draws; grace is absolutely essential. He just won’t force the matter, leaving us to opt in or out.

 

[Dave L]

Faith is a gift, and, as with any gift, it can be rejected at any point. We can refuse to believe, we can oppose the movement of the Spirt in us, or believe and not confess our faith out of fear of others as per John12:42, or believe now but turn away later, refusing to remain in Christ (John 15:5). But as we do respond, faith begets more faith, along with hope and love, grace leading to more grace. Again, God draws; grace is absolutely essential. He just won’t force the matter, leaving us to opt in or out.

Faith comes from a new person created by God in place of you. You cannot reject it any more than you can play dead.
“Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin: for his seed remaineth in him, and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” 1 John 3:9 (NCPB)

Doubt is sin.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

They are infallible?

do accept what the Albigenses, Anabaptists and others believe?

Jesus Christ founded the church on Peter and the Apostles mt 16:18 eph 2:20

Absolutely FALSE!!! Jesus founded the church on the POWER that led Peter to proclaim Jesus as the Son of God (Mat 16:17) - The HOLY SPIRIT. There IS only "One true church" - a SPIRITUAL body comprised of ALL People who have been Born Again of the Holy Spirit From Adam on forward. There is NO visible religious body on earth that HAS EVER BEEN The: "ONE TRUE CHURCH" of Jesus Christ.

Roman Catholics became the "First Protestants" when they threw the Orthodox Catholics under the bus, And grabbed the primacy. Luther under God's direction RESTORED the Primary Biblical TRUTH that Rome had long forgotten - i.e. Eph 2, 8,9.

 

[Paul4JC]

Nothing was reformed!

4 For when one says, "I follow Paul," and another, "I follow Apollos," are you not mere human beings? ... 21 So then, no more boasting about human leaders! All things are yours, 22 whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or the present or the future--all are yours, 23 and you are of Christ, and Christ is of God. [1Co 3:4, 21-23 NIV]

 

[concretecamper]

What was reformed?
What was the authority for the reformation? Or
Where does the Bible say to have a reformation?

I'm reminded of 2 examples.

1st is Martin Luther and Henry VIII and ilk, they in their pride broke from His Church.

2nd is Catherine of Sienna. Too bad the former didnt follow Catherine's example. If they did, many souls would not have been lost.

 

[Philip_B]

1st is Martin Luther and Henry VIII and ilk, they in their pride broke from His Church.

In fairness that is a very filtered view of history.

In the case of Martin Luther, I believe he had no intent to leave the church, but very much in common with a number of leading catholic figures he sought changes from within the Church, and ultimately he was excommunicated. I am a long way from thinking that Luther was full of pride, rather sadness and faith.

Henry VIII is often portrayed as a very proud man in his later life, however that is not how you should understand the number of actions that happened and led to the separation of the English Church from the Latin Church. Henry of himself was essential catholic as most would understand it in terms of faith and spirituality. Henry had new view of himself that he was creating a new Church, so much as impeding the Church (Pope and those who controlled him) from meddling in English political life.

Kings would have acted less like Popes if Popes had acted less like Princes.

 

[concretecamper]

In fairness that is a very filtered view of history.

In the case of Martin Luther, I believe he had no intent to leave the church, but very much in common with a number of leading catholic figures he sought changes from within the Church, and ultimately he was excommunicated. I am a long way from thinking that Luther was full of pride, rather sadness and faith.

Henry VIII is often portrayed as a very proud man in his later life, however that is not how you should understand the number of actions that happened and led to the separation of the English Church from the Latin Church. Henry of himself was essential catholic as most would understand it in terms of faith and spirituality. Henry had new view of himself that he was creating a new Church, so much as impeding the Church (Pope and those who controlled him) from meddling in English political life.

Kings would have acted less like Popes if Popes had acted less like Princes.

Oh how we can romance the evil deeds of the past. Reading your post reminds me of this:

“But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial ignorance and obedience; he emancipates him, stamps upon his brow the seal of liberty and humanity, in urging him to disobey and eat of the fruit of knowledge.”
Mikhail Bakunin