What to do, since the gaslight is over?

[Astrid]

DAVID SACKS: "Let's just put it plainly. The Democratic Party is a collection of interests who want to remain in power. The Democratic Party is the party of government. Its goal is to allocate money and power from the government to the collection of interest who backed the Democratic Party.

In other words, it's basically a collection of, of interests who want to loot the Republic. Well, obviously, no one's going to vote for that.

So they have to make it about something else. They choose a figurehead. They talk about how this is about saving democracy. They basically invent hoax after hoax lie after lie to basically maintain their power. And I think what's happened is the mask has come off the whole thing, the whole shell game has been revealed.

It's obvious that Biden was always a puppet for these interests who are hiding behind him. And now it's all being exposed."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/06/30/chamath_palihapitiya_the_key_debate_takeaway_is_joe_biden_has_not_actually_been_in_charge.html

Move to Conspiracies

 

[Tropical Wilds]

It’s a wild timeline we are in where people who are Christian defend infidelity, visiting sex workers, and paying of bribes to hide those facts with “but he used his own money so it’s fine.”

Howard Dean makes an awkward yell of excitement and it’s enough to leave his campaign and subsequent political career as a smoking crater… Pay off a sex worker to keep your affair with her a secret from your pregnant wife and the voters? It’s all good. Four more years please.

 

[RoBo1988]

Howard Dean makes an awkward yell of excitement and it’s enough to leave his campaign and subsequent political career as a smoking crater…

The Democrats did that to Howard Dean - that was during the primary. He could have shrugged it off, or even trademarked his scream, and kept on truckin'.

 

[Postvieww]

Do you realize that even if he wasn’t a felon and Biden was so feeble that he doesn’t know the difference between a dog and a cloud, I’d still be voting for Biden?

Is that who you want make a life and death decision if nukes (God forbid) were involved? This unnatural hatred for Trump is very unhealthy for the future of this nation. There is no doubt Trump is far more cognitively aware than Biden, it is not even a debatable point..

Since I have no faith in either completing a four year term due to their age, I view this as a battle of the VPs and one who supports the policies of Biden is infinitely better than one who supports the policies of Trump.

Such as the open border policy allowing millions of unvetted people into our country many of which who have committed murder, rape, robbery, human trafficking of adults and CHILDREN and a host of other crimes. All in the name of I hate Trump?

Harris is in no way equipped to led the nation in fact her poll numbers are lower than Joes. She might make a good laugher in chief but she can't even successfully lead her own staff much less the entire nation.

Last time, the only thing that prevented this country from falling apart is that Trump’s VP, despite being a man on the opposite of the spectrum on pretty much all of my values, had a keen sense of morality and ethics and would not play along with Trump’s attempt to overturn the vote. Pence stood between us and a dictatorship.

This is a poor representation of the facts. This "dictatorship" charge is nothing more than talking points of the democrat party with no basis in reality. Biden has shown more dictatorial tendencies the Trump ever has. Ignoring Supreme Court rulings to have it his way , what can we call that?

Trump did not want to "overturn the vote" all he wanted was a Fair vote.

Trump will not be dumb enough to appoint somebody who values the country over him again.

We shall see ,I will say whoever he picks will be. far more qualified to be President than Harris.

Actually most Democrats in leadership don't want her either but they are in a bad place.

1. Only she cane use the campaign war chest of money donated to the Biden campaign.
2. The party cannot in good conscience ditch a woman of color with the opportunity to be the first woman President.
3. The clock is ticking in a few states to get on the ballot.

The Democrats are between a rock and a hard place and have some very tough decisions to make very quickly.

As I write this the last word I have heard is Biden will not step down which is great for the Trump campaign.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

The Democrats did that to Howard Dean - that was during the primary. He could have shrugged it off, or even trademarked his scream, and kept on truckin'.

It was a variety of people. I agree, the yell was nothing, but it was treated like a huge something.

 

[Postvieww]

Just replay a few of his 2016 campaign speeches, he self funded, "didn't need anyone else's money.." remember?

That doesn't make the payment to Stormy campaign money!

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Is that who you want make a life and death decision if nukes (God forbid) were involved? This unnatural hatred for Trump is very unhealthy for the future of this nation. There is no doubt Trump is far more cognitively aware than Biden, it is not even a debatable point..

Oh, it very much is a debatable point. A sane human does not go off on a two minute rant about sharks and electric batteries during a campaign rally.

Such as the open border policy allowing millions of unvetted people into our country many of which who have committed murder, rape, robbery, human trafficking of adults and CHILDREN and a host of other crimes. All in the name of I hate Trump?

Well this is flirting with an ideology I don’t support or condone…

Harris is in no way equipped to led the nation in fact her poll numbers are lower than Joes. She might make a good laugher in chief but she can't even successfully lead her own staff much less the entire nation.


This is a poor representation of the facts. This "dictatorship" charge is nothing more than talking points of the democrat party with no basis in reality. Biden has shown more dictatorial tendencies the Trump ever has. Ignoring Supreme Court rulings to have it his way , what can we call that?

Trump did not want to "overturn the vote" all he wanted was a Fair vote.


We shall see ,I will say whoever he picks will be. far more qualified to be President than Harris.

Actually most Democrats in leadership don't want her either but they are in a bad place.

1. Only she cane use the campaign war chest of money donated to the Biden campaign.
2. The party cannot in good conscience ditch a woman of color with the opportunity to be the first woman President.
3. The clock is ticking in a few states to get on the ballot.

The Democrats are between a rock and a hard place and have some very tough decisions to make very quickly.

As I write this the last word I have heard is Biden will not step down which is great for the Trump campaign.

The rest of this is just ranting nonsense, hypotheticals, and fear-mongering. That works on Trump’s crowd, but not me.

Have a good one.

 

[Postvieww]

It’s a wild timeline we are in where people who are Christian defend infidelity, visiting sex workers, and paying of bribes to hide those facts with “but he used his own money so it’s fine.”

Have we all forgotten Clinton?

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Have we all forgotten Clinton?

Apparently some people have, yes.

 

[Postvieww]

The rest of this is just ranting nonsense, hypotheticals, and fear-mongering. That works on Trump’s crowd, but not me.

What you called nonsense is provable facts being openly discussed within the Democrate party. Ignore it if you wish.

 

[Merrill]

So Biden will do a heavily edited, 15 minute interview with Democratic Party operative George Stephanopolus on Friday night. Every effort will be made to make Biden look sharp, coherent, and competent. I suspect they will even use lighting effects and CGI to make him look younger https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/03/media/abc-news-interview-biden-primetime-special/index.html

 

[Tropical Wilds]

What you called nonsense is provable facts being openly discussed within the Democrate party. Ignore it if you wish.

They aren’t, but ok. It’s conspiracy theory conjecture that I have no time or interest entertaining.

 

[Postvieww]

So Biden will do a heavily edited, 15 minute interview with Democratic Party operative George Stephanopolus on Friday night. Every effort will be made to make Biden look sharp, coherent, and competent. I suspect they will even use lighting effects and CGI to make him look younger https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/03/media/abc-news-interview-biden-primetime-special/index.html

And many will buy into it! So sad.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

I suspect they will even use lighting effects and CGI to make him look younger https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/03/media/abc-news-interview-biden-primetime-special/index.html

LoL! Who even believes this stuff?

 

[BPPLEE]

Reporters Blame “Right-Wing Media” for Their Failure to Disclose Biden’s Infirmity

The media is sorry . . . sort of. After the shocking appearance of President Joe Biden in the presidential debate, the public has turned its attention to the press which has, again, buried a major …

jonathanturley.org

 

[FenderTL5]

That doesn't make the payment to Stormy campaign money!

If it was a campaign expense, then yes it would. That's what was proven at trial.

 

[ralliann]

If it was a campaign expense, then yes it would. That's what was proven at trial.

No it was not proven. The jury was able to choose several options individually. They did not have to conclude unanimously his crime.

 

[FenderTL5]

No it was not proven.

34 convictions say otherwise

The jury was able to choose several options individually. They did not have to conclude unanimously his crime.

False: Each conviction on the 34 felony counts of falsifying business records required a unanimous verdict from the jury.

 

[ralliann]

34 convictions say otherwise

False: Each conviction on the 34 felony counts of falsifying business records required a unanimous verdict from the jury.

Copy and paste from Snopes
"This other crime is referred to as the "predicate crime." During the trial, Merchan allowed New York prosecutors to present evidence pertaining to three possible predicate crimes: violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act; the falsification of other business records; or a violation of tax laws. As explained in his jury instructions, the jury does not have to unanimously agree on the predicate crime, just that one existed: "

 

[FenderTL5]

Copy and paste from Snopes

not true.

"This other crime is referred to as the "predicate crime." During the trial, Merchan allowed New York prosecutors to present evidence pertaining to three possible predicate crimes: violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act; the falsification of other business records; or a violation of tax laws. As explained in his jury instructions, the jury does not have to unanimously agree on the predicate crime, just that one existed: "

Page | 49 Deliberations "Your verdict, on each count you consider, whether guilty or not guilty, must be unanimous; that is, each and every juror must agree to it."