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If they'd change the name of homosexual marriage to another, but it would still be a union of exact status..I'd be okay with it as an American citizen. (However, I am but a stranger here..but nevertheless..)I agree, given that the man-made rules do not directly conflict with God-given ones. Gay marriage does not conflict, however, as it only is a means of legal contract. What gay marriage implies, can be debated, but its not about the implications of what gay marriage is about, its whether they can be legally married. I'll state again that I only read condemnation to same-sex sex. I can see the fundamentalist side of this, that homosexuals wish to define themselves according to their sexual preference, and demand to have equality in what was originally a God-given institution. This however is a civil matter, and not a religious one, because of our freedoms.
Well, Muhammed the Prophet married and had sex with a six year old girl. So in all fairness should Muslims be able to marry and molest children ?There are a myriad of different interpretations of the Bible. Each denomination has it's own take on whether gays/lesbians be allowed to marry in the eyes of God. They ought to be given all of the same legal rights as everyone else and deal with marriage on a religious level within their own faith.
NOT make a blanket rule to cover everyone
So in all fairness should Muslims be able to marry and molest children?
There are a myriad of different interpretations of the Bible. Each denomination has it's own take on whether gays/lesbians be allowed to marry in the eyes of God. They ought to be given all of the same legal rights as everyone else and deal with marriage on a religious level within their own faith.
NOT make a blanket rule to cover everyone
If you number the commandments the way Lutherans do, the fourth is "Honor your father and mother that it may go well with you, and that you might enjoy long life on the earth."
What, in heaven's name, is the sin in exhorting our brethren? It is the honourable thing to do--it honours God!
Those who choose homosexuality deny God.
It is only honourable if we have first removed the beam from our own eye. Otherwise, our first concern has to be our own heart, and our own sin.
Christ said, very clearly, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Exhort away, but only if you yourself are without any sin whatever in your own heart.
If nothing else, the sin of pride in feeling holier than the person on the receiving end of all that piety should be enough to keep anyone's mouth shut.
Meanwhile, while sorting out our own sin, we should follow the advice of St Francis who said, preach the gospel at all times. If absolutely necessary use words. In other words, preach the gospel by who you are and what you do, not by chastising your brothers and sisters in Christ for their supposed sins.
Not so. God is love, and those who express love and compassion towards our gay brothers and sisters do so in the knowledge that man cannot love anyone more than God loves them first.
Those who deny this love are the ones who deny something of God, both in themselves and in our faith.
And usually this is because they are first of all denying something deep within themselves.
But it is a good thing you pointed this out to me. Shows you need to be on your guard against them like the Bible cautions.I figured out what happened here! Actually what happened was that Catholicon, took my statement, did not change the font or the color or anything and rearranged words and changed words to suit herself and it was THAT quote, that you were responding to, so it was not your fault and it wasn't you who changed anything I said.
(which is here http://christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=41319737&postcount=106)
She should next time use the quote function and if she wants to reword what someone else says using their quote then it would be good manners in the least to change the font and color to match the rest of his post.
That is right. As a normal heterosexual I lack a log of my own. I amabsolutely free and right to preach the truth to those who err in the area of homosexuality. Thanks.
I happen to believe that by the opposition to the truth, that they aren't, and should be allowed to go merrily on their way. But as they continue in a Christian Forum, proclaiming Christianity, they need to be made aware that they are far from God and that they need salvation desperately, for their sin will lead them to damnation.
It's not love that coddles a sinner. These people need to repent, and fast. God hates what they are doing, and it will get them to hell, and not with Him. Woe to the one who coddles the homosexual as well--for they will be judged for not telling the truth.
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I would not exchange places with you for all the tea in China. What does Paul say of those who claim to be without sin?
Be careful, my brother. The line you draw will run just above your head in eternity.
What part of 'Judge not lest ye be judged' do you not understand?
Maybe you should read some quotes from Jesus like he warns that not everyone who says Lord Lord are going to heaven.Where does the Bible say I should not 'coddle' a gay?
You're just making this stuff up now, aren't you?
Maybe you should read some quotes from Jesus like he warns that not everyone who says Lord Lord are going to heaven.
Does the Lord sound like a Mollie-Coddler to you ?
She is not claiming to be without sin.
When you see a video of somebody randomly killing on TV and think, "Gee, that is horrible what that guy is doing"- does that mean you are claiming to be without sin?
God said, thou shalt not kill.
God did not say anywhere, thou shalt not be gay.
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders … (1Cor 6:9)
It's not love that coddles a sinner. These people need to repent, and fast. God hates what they are doing, and it will get them to hell, and not with Him. Woe to the one who coddles the homosexual as well--for they will be judged for not telling the truth.
God hates greed and gluttony...do you inform people at a buffet they are sinning?
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