What is the Falsification for Abiogenesis and Theory of Evolution?

[Speedwell]

In evolution it's chance, not God, that creates.

No, that's the Big Lie of creationism, fostered by Henry Morris, founder of the modern YEC movement: "The purpose of the theory of evolution is to deny the existence of God." Believe it if you must, but it's a theologically bankrupt notion combined with a straw-man version of evolution. Billions of theists know better

 

[renniks]

I wouldn't say 'a lot'. I know he said this in the book: 'We are invited by Dawkins and Darwin to believe that the evolution of the eye proceeded step-by-step through a series of plausible intermediates in infinitesimal increments.'

And if you study the eye from the most basic of light sensing spots to the various types of eye we have at present then you can show extant examples of incremental changes from the one to the other. We are not 'invited to believe'. We are shown actual examples.

Got anything else?

Must have been another book then. It was an answer to " the God delusion".

 

[Bradskii]

Must have been another book then. It was an answer to " the God delusion".

'I've read some of his stuff in other books.'

It was someobody else's 'stuff' then.

 

[renniks]

'I've read some of his stuff in other books.'

It was someobody else's 'stuff' then.

Someone quoting dawkins at length.

 

[Bradskii]

Someone quoting dawkins at length.

Then you'll have plenty to choose from to let me know what he said that made you think he was being illogical.

 

[renniks]

Then you'll have plenty to choose from to let me know what he said that made you think he was being illogical.

I would if I had the book. I use the library sometimes.

 

[Mr Laurier]

All you have to do is read what they wrote. Were the shooters lying?

The shooters were bullied kids in a football focused school.
They knew as little about evolution as you do, which is nothing.
The creationist made memes attributing them ideas they never expressed in life, are dishonest.

 

[Mr Laurier]

How many times have I been told on this thread that humans are primates?

Do humans have feathers? Do we lay eggs?
So we have hooves? Claws?
What non-primate characteristics do we have?

 

[Mr Laurier]

In evolution it's chance, not God, that creates.

Actualy, no. Its genes that create.

 

[renniks]

The shooters were bullied kids in a football focused school.
They knew as little about evolution as you do, which is nothing.
The creationist made memes attributing them ideas they never expressed in life, are dishonest.

Ah, so, your answer to everything is. " They was just stupid. "
Never mind what anyone actually says they got from this teaching, they just don't understand.
Lame.

 

[renniks]

Actualy, no. Its genes that create.

By random chance.

 

[renniks]

Do humans have feathers? Do we lay eggs?
So we have hooves? Claws?
What non-primate characteristics do we have?

We can build skyscrapers and space ships and computers. We create art and music. I'm still waiting for a monkey to play some Mozart.

 

[Mr Laurier]

By random chance.

No.

 

[Speedwell]

Ah, so, your answer to everything is. " They was just stupid. "
Never mind what anyone actually says they got from this teaching, they just don't understand.
Lame.

No, they were taught wrongly. The theory of evolution itself does not teach that we are nothing but chimps. It does not teach that we are not God's creatures, it does not teach that we are without moral responsibility. It does not teach anything at all about those subjects, one way or the other.

 

[renniks]

No.

Yes. Random mutations.

 

[renniks]

No, they were taught wrongly. The theory of evolution itself does not teach that we are nothing but chimps. It does not teach that we are not God's creatures, it does not teach that we are without moral responsibility. It does not teach anything at all about those subjects, one way or the other.

It's the logical conclusion for anyone thinking about the implications. And what Dawkins promotes btw.

 

[Mr Laurier]

We can build skyscrapers and space ships and computers. We create art and music. I'm still waiting for a monkey to play some Mozart.

So by your definition, humans have only existed for under a hundred years.
If building computers is what defines humans, then there were no humans before the 20th century. And human-ness spread out from England.

 

[renniks]

So by your definition, humans have only existed for under a hundred years.
If building computers is what defines humans, then there were no humans before the 20th century. And human-ness spread out from England.

Um, yeah, because music and art and creating tools start in England? What?

 

[Speedwell]

We can build skyscrapers and space ships and computers. We create art and music. I'm still waiting for a monkey to play some Mozart.

I'm still waiting for a creationist to explain why it makes a difference whether God created us from a precursor primate or a handful of dust.

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm still waiting for a creationist to explain why it makes a difference whether God created us from a precursor primate or a handful of dust.

Death before the Fall, just to name one.

Doesn't God refer to death as His enemy?