What is the Falsification for Abiogenesis and Theory of Evolution?

[Mr Laurier]

Now you are telling me what MY point is? I never said anywhere that building computers defines humans.

What was your point then?
You certainly made it out to be that modern technology is what defines humans. You specified computers. You were very specific that computers were an important part of what make humans humans.
Or were you being sloppy and thoughtless?
Did you just make an honest mistake? You can do that.

I am starting to understand how you arrive at your conclusions.

Oh? Do tell.

You just see what you want to see.

So you have no idea then.
I see what is in front of me... WHETHER OR NOT I WANT TO SEE IT!

 

[Frank Robert]

A scientist who promotes atheism, which is a religion. Ironically, he's the ultimate fundamentalist. He believes what he does and will accept no other explanation of the world.

You continue to confuse religion with science adding more evidence to the ridiculousness of the discussion.

Dawkins is both an atheist and a scientist. His science is based on scientific evidence, his atheism is based on lack of belief in gods. If you want to dispute his science you will need to do so with alternate hypotheses that better fit the evidence and that make better predictions.

 

[renniks]

You continue to confuse religion with science adding more evidence to the ridiculousness of the discussion.

Dawkins is both an atheist and a scientist. His science is based on scientific evidence, his atheism is based on lack of belief in gods. If you want to dispute his science you will need to do so with alternate hypotheses that better fit the evidence and that make better predictions.

Why would any Christain listen to any little AntiChrist? Biblically, he's a fool. I can't see why a person who calls themself a believer would promote anything a fool says.

 

[VirOptimus]

Why would any Christain listen to any little AntiChrist? Biblically, he's a fool. I can't see why a person who calls themself a believer would promote anything a fool says.

We nonbelivers dont care much for fools, thats why you have such a hard time ”debating”.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Why would any Christain listen to any little AntiChrist? Biblically, he's a fool. I can't see why a person who calls themself a believer would promote anything a fool says.

'Cause they want to understand how evolution works?

Dawkins works on that subject are quite readable, and should only cause offense if one ties their faith to creationism, which only a minority of Christians do.

His most famous book is quite anti-theistic and polemical as I understand it. I have not read it, but heard several large excerpts and lots of quoting from it.

His public speeches tend to include his anti-religion opinions these days even when talking mostly about evolution.

It is possible to be a believing Christian and have nothing but contempt for the promoters of creationism. I've known many such people and been one myself.

 

[MIDutch]

A scientist who promotes atheism, which is a religion. Ironically, he's the ultimate fundamentalist. He believes what he does and will accept no other explanation of the world.

Belief is not a requirement in science. In science, it's all about the evidence. I'm sure that, as a scientist, Dawkins would accept a different scientific explanation for which there is abundant and more compelling evidence.

Case in point, the geologists of 17th and 18th century Northern Europe who went looking for evidence of the Noachian flood (eventually) accepted the conclusion that the Noachian flood never happened based on the geology that was underfoot, that surrounded them and that they were studying. I.E. they wanted to find evidence of Noah's flood, but accepted another scientific explanation because that's what the evidence indicated. That's how science works, that's what scientists do.

The issue scientists have (as well as those of us laymen who like, study and reasonably understand sceince) is with an "alternative explanation" for which there is no, repeat, no credible evidence (hint: the Delk Track doesn't count as credible evidence).

 

[Speedwell]

It's about a lot more than killing. It's about a worldview that brings hopelessness. And evolution is only a small part of it.

Evolution is no part of it. The theory of evolution is just a scientific theory and like all scientific theories neither affirms nor denies the existence of God.

 

[Speedwell]

Why would any Christain listen to any little AntiChrist? Biblically, he's a fool. I can't see why a person who calls themself a believer would promote anything a fool says.

Just take his science and ignore his foolishness. It's easy.

 

[Frank Robert]

Why would any Christain listen to any little AntiChrist? Biblically, he's a fool. I can't see why a person who calls themself a believer would promote anything a fool says.

This is an case of you confusing religion and science. Those who are interested in science appreciate outstanding scientists even if they may brood about the scientist's religion. I am sure atheists who are interested in evolution admire Kenneth Miller.

 

[dlamberth]

It's about a lot more than killing. It's about a worldview that brings hopelessness. And evolution is only a small part of it.

The evolutionary process, of which we are all a part of and cant escape from, plays no part in the mental health of the world population.

 

[renniks]

Belief is not a requirement in science. In science, it's all about the evidence. I'm sure that, as a scientist, Dawkins would accept a different scientific explanation for which there is abundant and

Missing the point entirely. I don't care if he's a pig farmer. Why would a Christian listen to an anti God individual, when we are instructed not to?

"To the choirmaster. Of David. The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none who does good."

"See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ."

I'm not talking to the atheists here. I'm asking those who claim to be believers. Why listen to people who hate what you believe in?

 

[renniks]

The evolutionary process, of which we are all a part of and cant escape from, plays no part in the mental health of the world population.

The philosophy derived from that type of thinking certainly does.

 

[renniks]

This is an case of you confusing religion and science. Those who are interested in science appreciate outstanding scientists even if they may brood about the scientist's religion. I am sure atheists who are interested in evolution admire Kenneth Miller.

Missing the point entirely. I don't care if he's a pig farmer. Why would a Christian listen to an anti God individual, when we are instructed not to?

"To the choirmaster. Of David. The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none who does good."

"See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ."

I'm not talking to the atheists here. I'm asking those who claim to be believers. Why listen to people who hate what you believe in? There's plenty of believing scientists.

 

[renniks]

Evolution is no part of it. The theory of evolution is just a scientific theory and like all scientific theories neither affirms nor denies the existence of God.

That's not true according to Dawkins. He constantly uses scientific theory to put down religion.

 

[Frank Robert]

Missing the point entirely. I don't care if he's a pig farmer. Why would a Christian listen to an anti God individual, when we are instructed not to?

"To the choirmaster. Of David. The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none who does good."

"See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ."

I'm not talking to the atheists here. I'm asking those who claim to be believers. Why listen to people who hate what you believe in? There's plenty of believing scientists.

You never cease to amaze, but crawl into a hole if that is your desire.

 

[Frank Robert]

That's not true according to Dawkins. He constantly uses scientific theory to put down religion.

Which scientific hypotheses of Dawkins are your referring to? And how is he applying the scientific method to them?

 

[Shemjaza]

It's about a lot more than killing. It's about a worldview that brings hopelessness. And evolution is only a small part of it.

It's a nonsense argument in whatever metric you try to apply it.

All evolution is, is a physical process and a scientific theory to explain it.

That a couple of disturbed teenagers used it as a part of their self destructive rampage means nothing more than any other illogical motivation.

 

[Speedwell]

The philosophy derived from that type of thinking certainly does.

More fool he who derives a philosophy from a scientific theory--whether he embraces the philosophy or despises it.

 

[Speedwell]

That's not true according to Dawkins. He constantly uses scientific theory to put down religion.

To put down creationism and other religions which deny science. If the shoe doesn't fit you don't have to wear it.

 

[Speedwell]

I'm not talking to the atheists here. I'm asking those who claim to be believers. Why listen to people who hate what you believe in? There's plenty of believing scientists.

Who agree with Dawkins about the science, even though they may disagree with his atheism.