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What is Christ's rest?

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Something can be both a ritual and a commandment

Aaron shall put on the holy linen tunic. He shall have the linen trousers on his body, and shall put on the linen sash, and he shall be clothed with the linen turban Leviticus 16

Psalm 40:6 Sacrifice and offering you didn’t desire. You have opened my ears

Please find one verse that says the Sabbath commandment is a ritual or ceremonial law and not one of God's Ten Commandments. If you can't find it I would suggest considering Pro 30:5-6
 
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This is what Christ said in His own Words about the Sabbath

Isa 56:1 Thus says the Lord:

“Keep justice, and do righteousness,
For My salvation is about to come,
And My righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man who does this,
And the son of man who lays hold on it;
Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,

Jesus said keeping the Sabbath is keeping justice and doing righteousness

Christ righteousness is everlasting Psa 119:142

Why when He comes in the Clouds in all His Glory our fates already sealed , sadly many will never came to the Truth of God's Word, that all His commandments are Truth Psa 119:151 including the Sabbath and stopped listening to the Holy Spirit calling us our of our rebellion and sin Heb 3:7-8

And this is the result

Rev 22:11 He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still.”

No wonder why justice and righteousness is the foundation of God's Throne which Christ in His own Words relates to keeping the Sabbath Isa 56:1-2


Psa 89:14 Righteousness and justice are the foundation of Your throne;
Mercy and truth go before Your face.

This is what we want to hear when Jesus comes back

Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who [a]do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

Not this:
Mat 7:23 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

It all a matter of whose voice we are going to listen to and whoever we obey is who we serve Rom 6:16
 
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Please find one verse that says the Sabbath commandment is a ritual or ceremonial law and not one of God's Ten Commandments. If you can't find it I would suggest considering Pro 30:5-6
Are you asking me to talk to you about the law?
 
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Regarding the Royal Law they come directly from the Ten Commandments. Paul called it the summary, the Royal Law of course includes both the Greatest Commandments to love God and love man, but quoting one of the greatest commandments we know they mean both. Just like when quoting from one of the Ten Commandments, we know they came in a unit of
You've got that backwards. Christ says "all the law and prophets hang upon these two commandments" (Mat 22:40) Christ does not say these two commandments come from the 10 (which is found nowhere in scripture) but rather the 10 (and the rest of the law and prophets) come from these 2 laws.

What Christ reveals is a universal (unchanging) construct that covenant law (temporary) is based on. With regards to the sabbath and questions regarding how in practice does Christ law look like Christ answers this specifically affirming that doing good (goodness that is synonymous with Christ's law) is lawful practice on the Sabbath even if it means the act of doing good involves work it still is lawful practice.

Since our rest action on the Sabbath cannot fulfill the sabbath because we cannot complete the work why not do an action that can fulfill the Sabbath? "For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself." (Gal 5:14). This certainly covers the 4th commandment.

Ultimately creation is a salvation metaphor and the 7th day is a complete work in us that ushers is God's rest and we are called holy which is the process of scarification. We are the new creation and in the new creation we keep the 7th day holy by keeping ourselves holy.
 
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You've got that backwards. Christ says "all the law and prophets hang upon these two commandments" (Mat 22:40) Christ does not say these two commandments come from the 10 (which is found nowhere in scripture) but rather the 10 (and the rest of the law and prophets) come from these 2 laws.
This is what Christ said:

37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

Where does the Second Greatest commandment come from on how to love thy neighbor? Right from the Ten Commandments that deal with the commandments on how to love mankind.

Rom 13:9 9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” [a]“You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

Where does the Greatest Commandment come from to love God with all thy heart and soul? From this same unit of Ten as shown in Deut 5 (quoting from Exo 20:1-17_ and Deut 6, what Jesus was quoting from.

Love to God, love to man hang all the law and Prophets (God's Word) God never left undefined how to love Him or how to love our neighbor 1 John 5:2-3 but sadly most rely on their own version of love Jer 17:9 instead of allow God to direct our paths in all ways including how to love Exo 20:6 Mat 14:15

No wonder why the wisest man said this:

Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:

Fear God and keep His commandments,
For this is man’s all.
14 For God will bring every work into judgment,
Including every secret thing,
Whether good or evil.
What Christ reveals is a universal (unchanging) construct that covenant law (temporary) is based on. With regards to the sabbath and questions regarding how in practice does Christ law look like Christ answers this specifically affirming that doing good (goodness that is synonymous with Christ's law) is lawful practice on the Sabbath even if it means the act of doing good involves work it still is lawful practice.

Since our rest action on the Sabbath cannot fulfill the sabbath because we cannot complete the work why not do an action that can fulfill the Sabbath? "For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself." (Gal 5:14). This certainly covers the 4th commandment.

Ultimately creation is a salvation metaphor and the 7th day is a complete work in us that ushers is God's rest and we are called holy which is the process of scarification. We are the new creation and in the new creation we keep the 7th day holy by keeping ourselves holy.
I am going to listen to what God said. Exo 20:6 John 14:15 Isa 56:1-2 1 John 5:3 Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13 Mat 5:19-30 Luke 4:16 1 John 2:6 John 15:10 because our ideas, thoughts, wants and desires are important to us, but its not the same as what God says.

For example, there is no Scripture that says "Since our rest action on the Sabbath cannot fulfill the sabbath because we cannot complete the work why not do an action that can fulfill the Sabbath? " There is nothing in the Sabbath commandment about not keeping because we can't complete the work. The God I serve gives us the power to keep His commandments, just as He said through Him John 14:15-18. God said not to work on the seventh day Exo 20:8-11 so we can keep the Sabbath day holy Exo 20:6 placing our minds on Jesus doing this to honor and worship Him. Isa 58:13 so of course it can be kept, just the way God said it could. Its a matter of willingness and decision.

There is nothing that says
" We are the new creation and in the new creation we keep the 7th day holy by keeping ourselves holy." Man can't make ourselves holy, nor can we make a day holy, only God can do that. God from the beginning made the seventh day Sabbath holy, He blessed and sanctified for holy use and commanded us to keep the seventh day Sabbath holy Exo 20:8-11 by putting aside all secular activities and focus on God for one day on the day He set aside to do so. Isa 58:13 So God can bless Isa 56:1-2 and sanctify us Eze 20:12, because man can't sanctify ourselves Isa 66:17 , which we try to do when they create our own version of how to keep God's Sabbath or lay it aside saying its not for me Mark 7:7-13 Mat 15:3-14. something we were warned would happen in the last days Acts 20:30. Its best just to stick with what He said, just the way He said it and not try to speak for Him, as He doesn't need our help. Probably why Jesus said, man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God Mat 4:4, quoting from the OT, because its best to let God be God and we be His humble servants living by His Word, not what sounds good to our itching ears.
 
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Doing a particular activity (or inactivity) based on the position of the sun looks to me like a ritual

It's fine if people want to do rituals. If one wants to take as many of the same actions as Jesus did, they can also observe the feast of tabernacles

Our feet are standing within your gates, Jerusalem!
 
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God said the Sabbath is a commandment, Exo 20:8-11 Exo 20:6 its part of God's Ten Commandments Deut 4:13 Exo 34:28which means it was never a suggestion, or pick the ones we want. This is the personal Testimony of God Exo 32:16 so the argument is really with Him. I do not believe, saying well it seems like to me, will be a good argument against God's Word, but I guess it will all get sorted out soon enough.
 
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The feast of tabernacles is a commandment

These are the commandments which the Lord commanded Moses for the children of Israel on Mount Sinai Leviticus 27

Blessed is the person who fears the Lord, who delights greatly in his commandments Psalm 112
 
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Where does the Second Greatest commandment come from on how to love thy neighbor? Right from the Ten Commandments that deal with the commandments on how to love mankind.
"All the law and the prophets hang upon these two"

I'm not sure you're seeing the hierarchy here. These 2 commandments are positionally placed above all the law and the prophets. This includes the 10. Therefore the 10 are inferior to Christ's law and therefore Christ's law is superior to the 10.

This is can be naturally concluded simply by reading the letter of the 10 as the 10 show us an inferior method of how to love by reducing love to resisting harming our neighbour. Jesus's approach is superior as his focus is not merely to resist doing harm, but rather actively pursuing goodness/love. Sure it is good not to kill your neighbour but i'd hardly qualify that as love. The 10 show us moral pillars for civil order but they do not show us how to love.

By keeping Christ's law we are driven at more than merely resisting unfaithfulness to God or resisting harming our neighbour, we are driven by active love towards both. The sabbath is fulfilled through goodness too, as Christ makes that clear (Mt 12:12). What Sabbath points to is ultimately spiritual rest over physical and that should be our goal, and once we have it, we need to share it. (Rescuing sheep btw is a metaphor for sharing it)
 
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"All the law and the prophets hang upon these two"

I'm not sure you're seeing the hierarchy here. These 2 commandments are positionally placed above all the law and the prophets. This includes the 10. Therefore the 10 are inferior to Christ's law and therefore Christ's law is superior to the 10.
This is not written in my Bible. How can something be "higher" if the details is what makes up the summary. Its like saying the summary of the constitution being "justice" is higher than each of the amendments it represents when its the same thing.

How can Christ's law who Christ is God be inferior to God's law? This whole Christ and God and their laws are different entities is not a teaching of Scripture.

If one wants to separate God's commandments as different than the law of Christ, one would automatically disqualify themselves. Rev 14:12 Rev 22:14 Rev 11:18-19 Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13

This is can be naturally concluded simply by reading the letter of the 10 as the 10 show us an inferior method of how to love by reducing love to resisting harming our neighbour. Jesus's approach is superior as his focus is not merely to resist doing harm, but rather actively pursuing goodness/love. Sure it is good not to kill your neighbour but i'd hardly qualify that as love. The 10 show us moral pillars for civil order but they do not show us how to love.
This is not written in my Bible.

God's own Testimony Exo 31:18 said something different Exo 20:6
By keeping Christ's law we are driven at more than merely resisting unfaithfulness to God or resisting harming our neighbour, we are driven by active love towards both. The sabbath is fulfilled through goodness too, as Christ makes that clear (Mt 12:12). What Sabbath points to is ultimately spiritual rest over physical and that should be our goal, and once we have it, we need to share it. (Rescuing sheep btw is a metaphor for sharing it)
You seem to be indicating that we can receive Christ spiritual rest by disobeying God's commandment for physical rest but the clear Scripture says otherwise as proven by the OP What is Christ's rest?
 
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This is not written in my Bible. How can something be "higher" if the details is what makes up the summary. Its like saying the summary of the constitution being "justice" is higher than each of the amendments it represents.
You are misrepresenting what Jesus said by your focus on the word "summary". We must be responsible with how we interpete scripture and use all the references to get a better understanding. A sumerization of the 10 is not what is biblical revealed. The context Jesus reveals is all the law and prophets and the question is which is the greatest, the 10 alone are never the context. Other references such as Romans, Galations and James all inherit this context regardless of which commandments they introduce they are all in agreement. Paul uses summary in Romans and fulfilled in Galations and Christ says all the law and prophets hang up these two. These statements are all addressing the same thing.

Mark 12:31 says it this way "There is no commandment greater than these." This was in response to the question asked in v28 "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?" the 10 are not spoken of here, thus positionally they are inferior to the greatest.

This is not written in my Bible.

God's own Testimony Exo 31:18 said something different Exo 20:6

Christ shows us in Mat 5 that merely resisting to murder is not enough and we need to address matters of the heat. He also addresses adultery were merely resisting sleeping with another is not enough and we need to address the heart. The 10 do not address the heart.

You are confusing that we can receive Christ spiritual rest by disobeying God's commandment for physical rest but the clear Scripture says otherwise as proven by the OP What is Christ's rest?
Christ tells us this is lawful practice, and even explicitly shows it is lawful for the Sabbath, so I believe him. there is no disobedience or breaking law. There is only obedience and keeping law. What part don't you accept?
 
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You are misrepresenting what Jesus said by your focus on the word "summary". We must be responsible with how we interpete scripture and use all the references to get a better understanding. A sumerization of the 10 is not what is biblical revealed. The context Jesus reveals is all the law and prophets and the question is which is the greatest, the 10 alone are never the context. Other references such as Romans, Galations and James all inherit this context regardless of which commandments they introduce they are all in agreement. Paul uses summary in Romans and fulfilled in Galations and Christ says all the law and prophets hang up these two. These statements are all addressing the same thing.
So should we ignore what it says verbatim?

37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

Where does the Second Greatest commandment come from on how to love thy neighbor? Right from the Ten Commandments that deal with the commandments on how to love mankind. Same with the greatest commandment as shown from Deut 6:5 quoting directly from Deut 5 which is a quote from Exo 20:1-17

Rom 13:9 9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” [a]“You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

God never left love undefined and its matter of faith at this point if we are going to trust God's own Testimony Exo 32:16 Exo 20:6 because as far as I know, the whole bible is about the testimony of Jesus Christ, who is God that became flesh. If we can't believe His own testimony, I think we are not heading in the right direction.
Mark 12:31 says it this way "There is no commandment greater than these." This was in response to the question asked in v28 "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?" the 10 are not spoken of here, thus positionally they are inferior to the greatest.
Its the summary as clearly shown through Scripture
Christ shows us in Mat 5 that merely resisting to murder is not enough and we need to address matters of the heat. He also addresses adultery were merely resisting sleeping with another is not enough and we need to address the heart. The 10 do not address the heart.
Not quite

Jesus said if we break the commandment of thou shalt not murder one would be in fear of the Judgement. Mat 5:21 Notice how He did not say, not to keep the commandment and one would be in fear of Judgement if doing so, but He went on to explain the real intent behind this commandment, which is a change of our heart. If our heart is changed by Jesus, we would never get to the point of breaking the commandment because thoughts of anger and contempt turn into compassion and love and thou shalt not murder would automatically be kept. This is what Jesus was teaching, not that one can literally break any of the commandments, He made this point clear by saying not to break or teach others to break the least of these commandments, which of course includes the Sabbath commandment and in doing so one would be least in heaven and if reading the next verse I do not mean that means one will be there Mat 5:19-20

And why Christ said breaking these same commandments, and laying them aside, saying they are not for me, ones heart is far from Him Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13
Christ tells us this is lawful practice, and even explicitly shows it is lawful for the Sabbath, so I believe him. there is no disobedience or breaking law. There is only obedience and keeping law. What part don't you accept?
Yet Christ said over and over not to profane His Sabbath but keep it holy Exo 20:8-11 Isa 58:13 Eze 20:20 Isa 56:1-2 Eze 22:26 Eze 20:13, so yes, there is disobedience and things that we do that is unlawful on the Sabbath, thus saith the Lord. Helping others in need like the example of Jesus was never a sin, which is what Jesus was correcting with the Pharisees, but He kept the Sabbath as a holy convocation Lev 23:3 gathering together in church reading God's Word, just as the apostles and the gentiles did every Sabbath following in the footsteps of Christ Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 18:4. Our church does a lot of helping people on the Sabbath, many members go feed the hungry before church, we give out Bibles and other Christian books, we give them clothes and blankets. These were all similar things the Pharisees said were a sin, that Jesus was correcting. Most people when they say they are doing good on the Sabbath, but arguing against the Sabbath commandment, tend to use the Sabbath doing their own ways, not God's Isa 58:13 but there is nothing we can hide from Him Ecc 12:13-14 Rev 11:18-19
 
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The first and second commandments don't come from the Ten Commandments any more than they come from the year of jubilee

As the law says, You shall make the fiftieth year holy, and proclaim liberty throughout the land to all its inhabitants. It shall be a jubilee to you; and each of you shall return to his own property, and each of you shall return to his family

If a hangs on b then a is lower than b. The law and the prophets hang on the two greatest commandments

The Lord is righteous in all his ways, and gracious in all his works Psalm 145
 
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So should we ignore what it says verbatim?

37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

Where does the Second Greatest commandment come from on how to love thy neighbor? Right from the Ten Commandments that deal with the commandments on how to love mankind. Same with the greatest commandment as shown from Deut 6:5 quoting directly from Deut 5 which is a quote from Exo 20:1-17

Rom 13:9 9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” [a]“You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

God never left love undefined and its matter of faith at this point if we are going to trust God's own Testimony Exo 32:16 Exo 20:6 because as far as I know, the whole bible is about the testimony of Jesus Christ, who is God that became flesh. If we can't believe His own testimony, I think we are not heading in the right direction.
all the passages agree with each other, When we perceive what seems to be competing language, then all the texts should be studied together to determine a single meaning that needs to agree with all reading, at time we may need to adjust our focus if their is a majority position that is stronger. We should not ignore words rather study their context to determine the original intent when the surface word itself can present come ambiguity. this is just responsible study.

Gospels:
Mark 12:31 - there is no commandment greater than these
Mat 22:40 - all the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.
Mat 7:12 - for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

Epitles:
Rom 13:8, 9 , 10 (highlighted portions only) - for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law... may be, are summed up in this one command ... Therefore, love is the fulfillment of the law.
Gal 5:14 - For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command
Jam 2:8 - If you really keep the royal law ... you are doing right.

You are welcome to contribute more references, I think I got them all but not all cross references link to each other in various traslations. The two I'm sure you are highlighting are Mat 7:12 and Rom 13:9 which both use the word "sum" depending on which English translations you're using. What should be noted however is Mat 7:12 does not have the word "sum" properly in greek and it more states "for this is the law and the prophets" translations choose various words to reflect the meaning, some use "sum" (NIV ), or "essence" (NLT) but most prefer a reading analogous to "for this is the Law and the Prophets." An argument that Christ actually meant is a summary of the 10 is malformed without any support. Even if the word sum was used, it is not just the 10, it is the entire "law and prophets" so how we take Christ's law and apply it to something like circumcision (which is included in all the law and the prophets) using it's spiritual counterpart can also be used to apply it to sabbath practice as well. This does not isolate the 10 and this is where your argument falls apart.

With Rom 13:9 Paul does begin to quote commandments from the 10, but if he intends to capture "Christ's law" (which he coined the phrase) then he assumes the context of Christ's words from the gospels and should not be seen as adding restrictions to that context. He states in v9 "...and whatever other command there may be" you seem to be looking at this in the 10 commandments vacuum yet we know Christ includes all the law and the prophets so we must dismiss a narrow scope to law as a restricted context and accept as Christ states "all the law and the prophets"

The remaining scripture uses fulfilled (including Rom 13) James states "you are doing right". Each are addressing the same context and the dominate conclusion is not a focus on a summary of the 10 which is an isolated context taken from word by Paul and is inconsistent with the other references (including Paul's own). We must conclude when Paul uses "sum" it is not in the sense Christ's law is from the 10 (certainly nowhere says that) but the opposite, that all law is from Christ's law which would establish Christ's law as a universal construct that all law is based on and it would mean at least in ideology it pre-existed all law.

Its the summary as clearly shown through Scripture
where is it clearly shown? There is more evidence to support that law is from Christ's law, the Christ's law a summerization of the law. regardless of how you see it, Christ's law is still regarded as lawful practice (for all the law and the prophets)
Not quite

Jesus said if we break the commandment of thou shalt not murder one would be in fear of the Judgement. Mat 5:21 Notice how He did not say, not to keep the commandment and one would be in fear of Judgement if doing so, but He went on to explain the real intent behind this commandment, which is a change of our heart. If our heart is changed by Jesus, we would never get to the point of breaking the commandment because thoughts of anger and contempt turn into compassion and love and thou shalt not murder would automatically be kept. This is what Jesus was teaching, not that one can literally break any of the commandments, He made this point clear by saying not to break or teach others to break the least of these commandments, which of course includes the Sabbath commandment and in doing so one would be least in heaven and if reading the next verse I do not mean that means one will be there Mat 5:19-20

And why Christ said breaking these same commandments, and laying them aside, saying they are not for me, ones heart is far from Him Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13
Jesus says "you have heard it said..." then contrasts it with "but I say..." He does not say "what it really means is..." or "the real intent is..." there is a point where we need to admit the what the language and use that our guide rather then trying to correct the text to say what we want it to say. Jesus's point was to challenge an old way of thinking with a his way of thinking. he happens to call out some of the 10 or rather more broadly the law (with the fuller context) for missing the point. he makes no apologies for that and just tells a better way.

Yet Christ said over and over not to profane His Sabbath but keep it holy Exo 20:8-11 Isa 58:13 Eze 20:20 Isa 56:1-2 Eze 22:26 Eze 20:13, so yes, there is disobedience and things that we do that is unlawful on the Sabbath, thus saith the Lord. Helping others in need like the example of Jesus was never a sin, which is what Jesus was correcting with the Pharisees, but He kept the Sabbath as a holy convocation Lev 23:3 gathering together in church reading God's Word, just as the apostles and the gentiles did every Sabbath following in the footsteps of Christ Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 18:4. Our church does a lot of helping people on the Sabbath, many members go feed the hungry before church, we give out Bibles and other Christian books, we give them clothes and blankets. These were all similar things the Pharisees said were a sin, that Jesus was correcting. Most people when they say they are doing good on the Sabbath, but arguing against the Sabbath commandment, tend to use the Sabbath doing their own ways, not God's Isa 58:13 but there is nothing we can hide from Him Ecc 12:13-14 Rev 11:18-19
Christ is not unambiguously quoted in those references. you are conflating old covenant references in an old covenant vacuum with new covenant theology. Sabbath is not really about physical rest, so if we physically rest or we don't it actually has no bearing on our spiritual state and God is actually not interested in our service of physical rest. This is the same with any ceremonial act, God doesn't actually care about the flesh of circumcision, or the blood of bulls, he cares about our heart. these are physical analogs that were used in the Old Covenant to point to the spiritual. When we read them in an old covenant vacuum, we need to use a lens of new covenant theology otherwise, all we are going to see is old covenant theology, which includes all the ceremonial, symbolic and sacrificial systems with it. You've made no effort to apply new covenant revelation over these texts and it causes me to question your ability to discern these things at concerning levels.
 
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all the passages agree with each other, When we perceive what seems to be competing language, then all the texts should be studied together to determine a single meaning that needs to agree with all reading, at time we may need to adjust our focus if their is a majority position that is stronger. We should not ignore words rather study their context to determine the original intent when the surface word itself can present come ambiguity. this is just responsible study.
I agree, Scripture will interpret Scripture, which is what we should do, not post a Scripture than post our commentary to re-interpret what Scripture says. God's Word doesn't need our help, We should be able to make our case just by the Scripture.
Gospels:
Mark 12:31 - there is no commandment greater than these
Mat 22:40 - all the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.
Mat 7:12 - for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
I'm not sure your point here, yes the gospels repeat the greatest commandments. But why not let Scripture interpret what that means instead of just trying to make any Scripture we want it to say.

We know the greatest commandment to love God with all our heart, mind and soul are directly coming from the Ten Commandments. Jesus quoted from the OT when He quoted them.

Deut 6:5 5 You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.

What was being stated in the context for Jesus to repeat this? It was 40 years after God wrote and spoke the Ten Commandments. Moses was preparing the children of Israel to go to their promise land and repeated the Ten Commandments telling the children of Israel to diligently teach their children the commandments and their children's children extra and than said which you can find in Deut 5 and right after said:

Deut 6:2 that you may fear the Lord your God, to keep all His statutes and His commandments which I command you, you and your son and your grandson, all the days of your life, and that your days may be prolonged. 3 Therefore hear, O Israel, and [a]be careful to observe it, that it may be well with you, and that you may multiply greatly as the Lord God of your fathers has promised you—‘a land flowing with milk and honey.’

4 “Hear, O Israel: [b]The Lord our God, the Lord is one! 5 You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.

The basis according to Scripture of the Greatest commandments include the Ten Commandments, which is the greatest commandments summarized. The first table shows us how to love God, the second how to love man. On these two commandments- hangs the entire Bible- Love to God, love to mankind and God;s commandments show us how to do this, so we are not depending on our own heart to define love. Jer 17:9

Why

1 John 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.

It really can't be more clear.

No wonder why we are told those who keep God's commandments are welcomed to enter our Promise Land which is heaven

Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

Compared to who is outside Rev 22:15 just like many of the Israelites who never made it due to their disobedience Heb 4:6 Eze 20:13 and we are told not to follow their same path of disobedience Heb 4:11
Epitles:
Rom 13:8, 9 , 10 (highlighted portions only) - for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law... may be, are summed up in this one command ... Therefore, love is the fulfillment of the law.
Gal 5:14 - For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command
Jam 2:8 - If you really keep the royal law ... you are doing right.
Yes, love is the fulfillment of the law because love does no harm, just as Jesus taught.

If we love God are we going to worship other gods
bow to images
vain His holy name
not keep His Sabbath day holy
(of course not, otherwise we are dishonoring Him Rom 2:21-23, profaning Him Eze 22:26 become and enmity to Him Rom 8:7-8 which is harming both self and God because sin separate's us from God Isa 59:2 so sinning and breaking God's law is not love its selfishness.

If we love our fellow man
Will we not honor or father and mother
kill or murder them
covet what they have
commit adultery with their spouse
lie to them or tell false testimony against them?

Of course not why love fulfills the law because when we stop doing these things, we love self over God.

You are welcome to contribute more references, I think I got them all but not all cross references link to each other in various traslations. The two I'm sure you are highlighting are Mat 7:12 and Rom 13:9 which both use the word "sum" depending on which English translations you're using. What should be noted however is Mat 7:12 does not have the word "sum" properly in greek and it more states "for this is the law and the prophets" translations choose various words to reflect the meaning, some use "sum" (NIV ), or "essence" (NLT) but most prefer a reading analogous to "for this is the Law and the Prophets." An argument that Christ actually meant is a summary of the 10 is malformed without any support. Even if the word sum was used, it is not just the 10, it is the entire "law and prophets" so how we take Christ's law and apply it to something like circumcision (which is included in all the law and the prophets) using it's spiritual counterpart can also be used to apply it to sabbath practice as well. This does not isolate the 10 and this is where your argument falls apart.

With Rom 13:9 Paul does begin to quote commandments from the 10, but if he intends to capture "Christ's law" (which he coined the phrase) then he assumes the context of Christ's words from the gospels and should not be seen as adding restrictions to that context. He states in v9 "...and whatever other command there may be" you seem to be looking at this in the 10 commandments vacuum yet we know Christ includes all the law and the prophets so we must dismiss a narrow scope to law as a restricted context and accept as Christ states "all the law and the prophets"

The remaining scripture uses fulfilled (including Rom 13) James states "you are doing right". Each are addressing the same context and the dominate conclusion is not a focus on a summary of the 10 which is an isolated context taken from word by Paul and is inconsistent with the other references (including Paul's own). We must conclude when Paul uses "sum" it is not in the sense Christ's law is from the 10 (certainly nowhere says that) but the opposite, that all law is from Christ's law which would establish Christ's law as a universal construct that all law is based on and it would mean at least in ideology it pre-existed all law.
The Greek word that is used means exactly what Paul quoted from Rom 13:9

anakephalaioó: To sum up, to bring together, to unite
Original Word: ἀνακεφαλαιόω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: anakephalaioó
Pronunciation: an-ak-ef-al-ah-YO-o
Phonetic Spelling: (an-ak-ef-al-ah'-ee-om-ahee)
Definition: To sum up, to bring together, to unite
Meaning: I sum up, summarize, recapitulate, gather up in one.

Not sure how you can claim the argument "falls apart" that's it not coming from the Ten Commandments to sum up love to our neighbor when Paul is literally quoting directly from the Ten Commandments and tells us verbatim its what sums up how to love thy neighbor. Its just not being honest with the Text


Rom 13:9 9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” [a]“You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

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Jesus says "you have heard it said..." then contrasts it with "but I say..." He does not say "what it really means is..." or "the real intent is..."
Mat 5:21 “You have heard that it was said to those [d]of old, ‘You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’

Where is Jesus telling us not to keep the commandment to thou shalt not murder, which you seem to be indicating that He is. Jesus just said He did not come to destroy the law and not to break or teach other to break the least of these commandments and than quoted directly giving two as an example which commandments He is referring to by quoting from the Ten Commandments. To claim He doesn't mean what He says, I do not think is a good idea.

Jesus went on to explain the intent behind the commandments, showing how much greater they really are as it was prophesized He came to magnify His law Isa 42:21 which means make greater, not make lessor or make it disappear/destroy/end sadly as most teach. He related thoughts of anger with the commandment to thou shalt not murder and thoughts of lust with committing adultery because sin starts with the heart. And sin is breaking God's law 1 John 3:4 breaking one of He said, we break them all James 2:11-12 why Paul quoted directly from this same unit to say its sin plainly Rom7:7

This is how much Jesus does not what us to break His commandments, why He said in breaking the least of these commandments one would be least in heaven Mat 5:19 and verse 20 indicates not there

Mat 5:30 And if your right hand causes you to [k]sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.

People need to wake up when they are teaching against what Jesus taught, His personal Testimony Exo 32:16 that all man will be judged by. Ecc 12:13-14 James 2:11-12, Mat 5:19-30, Rev 22:14-15 Rev 11:18-19 when He comes our fates will be sealed Rev 22:11
there is a point where we need to admit the what the language and use that our guide rather then trying to correct the text to say what we want it to say. Jesus's point was to challenge an old way of thinking with a his way of thinking. he happens to call out some of the 10 or rather more broadly the law (with the fuller context) for missing the point. he makes no apologies for that and just tells a better way.


Christ is not unambiguously quoted in those references. you are conflating old covenant references in an old covenant vacuum with new covenant theology. Sabbath is not really about physical rest, so if we physically rest or we don't it actually has no bearing on our spiritual state and God is actually not interested in our service of physical rest. This is the same with any ceremonial act, God doesn't actually care about the flesh of circumcision, or the blood of bulls, he cares about our heart. these are physical analogs that were used in the Old Covenant to point to the spiritual. When we read them in an old covenant vacuum, we need to use a lens of new covenant theology otherwise, all we are going to see is old covenant theology, which includes all the ceremonial, symbolic and sacrificial systems with it. You've made no effort to apply new covenant revelation over these texts and it causes me to question your ability to discern these things at concerning levels.
I see a lot of your words here that sadly go against the Scripture because the NT Sabbath rest is still according to the commandment Luke 23:56 and goes against God's own personal Testimony Exo 32:16 Exo 20:8-11 Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18-19 its hard to reason with one who thinks they know better than the Law Giver Himself what His Law is about. I guess we will both find out soon enough. Be well
 
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The women who had come with him out of Galilee followed after, and saw the tomb and how his body was laid. They returned and prepared spices and ointments. On the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment

It seems very likely that they didn't understand the New Covenant yet. The Holy Spirit hadn't yet been given, they hadn't heard things that Jesus wanted to say on Earth but couldn't be received at that time

Whoever finds wisdom finds life,
and will obtain favor from the Lord Proverbs 8
 
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The teaching that Jesus would not tell His faithful followers a change to one of His commandments or anyone else in the entire Bible, is about as convincing that the sky is green and the grass is blue.

My guess its not His faithful followers that didn’t understand the New Covenant while following Jesus everywhere, but those teaching the opposite of what Jesus taught and lived Mat 5:19-30 Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13 John 14:15 Isa 56:1-6 Luke 4:16 John 15:10 1 John 5:3 etc etc
 
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Christ said:

Mat 11:28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am [a]gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”

Many believe and teach Christ's rest some how relieves our moral obligation to obey the Sabbath commandment, but is this what Jesus is teaching?

Jesus said this and still kept the Sabbath going to church reading God's word Luke 4:16 as the apostles did following in His footsteps keeping every Sabbath in the same manner decades after the Cross Acts 15:21 Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 18:4 as the Sabbath is a holy convocation Lev 23:3 and we see that continuing on in the New Heaven and New Earth Isa 66:22-23

So what rest is Christ referring to?

Psa 38:3 There is no soundness in my flesh because of thine anger; neither is there any rest in my bones because of my sin.4 For mine iniquities are gone over mine head: as an heavy burden they are too heavy for me.

The rest Jesus is giving us when we come to Him is rest from our sins. Jesus came to save us from our sins Mat 1:21 we are not saved in our sins Heb 10:26-30

Sin is:
1 John 3:4 Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.
James 2:11-12 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. quoting and contrasting directly from the Ten Commandments breaking one we break them all
Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.”
Rom 14:23 But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because he does not eat from faith; for whatever is not from faith is sin.


We also see this play out in the last days

Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

Compared to the antidote found in the next verse

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

If we understand Christ rest, it will help us understand Hebrews 4 much better as it is speaking of two rests, not one.

We are invited to enter into Christ rest, just like the Israelites, Heb 4:1 but many didn't enter due to disobedience (sin) even through the same gospel was preached Heb 4:6

Why the Holy Spirit is calling us "TODAY" to come our of our rebellion (sin) and enter His rest quoting directly from Psa 95

Heb 3:7 Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says:

“Today, if you will hear His voice,
8 Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion,
In the day of trial in the wilderness,

9 Where your fathers tested Me, tried Me,
And saw My works forty years.
10 Therefore I was angry with that generation,
And said, ‘They always go astray in their heart,
And they have not known My ways.’
11 So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest.’ ”


Why there is another day spoken of, which is TODAY God is calling us from our sins and come unto Him and He will give us rest from the burdens of sin but we need to enter through faith Heb 4:2

What did the Israelites disobey during their trial of the wilderness that led them to not enter into Christ rest

Eze 22:13 Yet the house of Israel rebelled against Me in the wilderness; they did not walk in My statutes; they despised My judgments, ‘which, if a man does, he shall live by them’; and they greatly defiled My Sabbaths. Then I said I would pour out My fury on them in the wilderness, to consume them.

Why the next verse says there remains a Sabbath-rest for the people of God Heb 4:9 and the Sabbath rest is according to the commandment Luke 23:56 because breaking God's law is sin 1 John 3:4 James 2:11-12

The next verse clearly shows these two rests

Heb 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also (in addition) ceased from his works as God did from His.

God ceased from His works on the seventh day, Heb 4:4 Gen 2:1-3 just like God commanded us to Exo 20:8-11 as we were made in His image and likeness so to enter His rest one also ceases from work on the seventh day Sabbath. Exo 20:10

Heb 4:11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience

We don't want to follow the same mistakes of the Israelites who sinned and never entered their rest in Canaan, which is a type of heaven. The same applies to us to enter in Heaven Rev 22:14

12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.

In Christ rest no one is in rebellion or breaking God's law, why there is just peace
Isa 48:18
Oh, that you had heeded My commandments!
Then your peace would have been like a river,
And your righteousness like the waves of the sea.

Jesus is coming soon and we need to come out of our rebellion to Him and obey Him and His commandments, His version, God’s own personal Testimony Exo 31:18 written personally by God, His law and will Psa 40:8, It’s why we see the ark of the covenant, which holds God’s personal Testimony, the Ten Commandments written and spoken by the God of the Universe revealed at the last Trumpet before Jesus comes in all His Glory Rev 11:19 as it is the standard of what God will judge all man 2 Cor 5:10 James 2:10-12 Ecc 12:13-14 Mat 5:19-30 Rev 11:18-19 Rev 22:14-15 and removing anything God covers under His mercy seat which below sits God’s Testimony His Ten Commandments, laying it aside as to say its not for me, I do not believe that's going to work out so well as Jesus taught plainly Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13

So lets be willing to forsake our sins Pro 28:13 and come to Jesus, He will give us rest.
Hi, the Sabbath rest in the 10 is the same as the rest describe in the Gospel.

To enter the Sabbath rest in the 10 you must uphold All other commandments in the Law.

To enter the Sabbath rest through the Gospel you must "believe" and "obey" the Gospel message. (Which is about Love).
 
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Animal sacrifices are commandments, the instruction to put tassels on our clothes is a commandment

It's not that the commandments themselves changed, what actions we take in response to them has changed

This is communicated in various places in the Bible

the whole law is fulfilled in one word, in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

Sacrifice and offering you didn’t desire. You have opened my ears. You have not required burnt offering and sin offering
 
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