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I am going to say this as a left-winger, while Donald Trump is an idiot, he at least isn't as bad as Hillary Clinton. Don't believe me? Just go on WikiLeaks (the organization that published her emails) and read her emails. You should also see her policies (like with disastrous anti-crime legislation, rigging the Democratic National Committee against Bernie Sanders (I hope he wins in 2020), accepting campaign donations from Saudi Arabia (which is a country that funds ISIS), and getting us into Iraq and Libya.
 
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Hillary has not ruled out running in 2020, so hang on to your seats, my fine feathered friends.....

The left wing and the right wing are part the same political bird and both wings are foul. As a liberal, I'm not going to vote for her. I didn't vote for her the last time and I didn't vote for Trump either.
 
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I am going to say this as a left-winger, while Donald Trump is an idiot, he at least isn't as bad as Hillary Clinton. Don't believe me? Just go on WikiLeaks (the organization that published her emails) and read her emails. You should also see her policies (like with disastrous anti-crime legislation, rigging the Democratic National Committee against Bernie Sanders (I hope he wins in 2020), accepting campaign donations from Saudi Arabia (which is a country that funds ISIS), and getting us into Iraq and Libya.
What if I told you I didn’t care. Never voted for her in the past nor will I in the future. Same way I feel about Donald J Trump.
 
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I haven't looked into it any further than a few videos like the following, but does does anyone believe even a little bit of this?


It's a shameful blot on the face of American jurisprudence that Youtube videos aren't admissible as evidence... Hillary would get the chair!
 
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It's a shameful blot on the face of American jurisprudence that Youtube videos aren't admissible as evidence... Hillary would get the chair!

Aren't we sharp. ;)

The host makes it neither true nor untrue, and of course it's not admissible, it is not and was not intended as evidence.
 
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Aren't we sharp. ;)

One of us has to be. ;)

The host makes it neither true nor untrue, and of course it's not admissible, it is not and was not intended as evidence.

That makes it pretty much... hmmm... what's the word I'm looking for...

Ah, yes... "worthless."
 
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Actually I believe she knew what she was doing, when it come to politics. Trump doesn't.

I agree which is why she is so much more dangerous. She knows how to implement her agenda through corruption for the distasteful policies and practices she advocates. Meanwhile Trump has bungled his opportunity because he is naïve about politics.
 
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I agree which is why she is so much more dangerous. She knows how to implement her agenda through corruption for the distasteful policies and practices she advocates. Meanwhile Trump has bungled his opportunity because he is naïve about politics.

Which explains why all his cronies are ending up indicted... how long before it's Donald's own head in the noose?
 
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Which explains why all his cronies are ending up indicted... how long before it's Donald's own head in the noose?

Trump's political naivete only partly explains the current situation. His naivete is not what fuels the bureaucracy's zealousness in trying to find a way to destroy Trump and his associates. Trump's surprise at that zealousness would be caused by his naivete. After seeing how the levers of that bureaucracy were used to protect Hillary, he ought to have been aware that those same people controlling those levers could go after a politician that was not towing the correct line just as they were used to shelter one they found amenable to their purposes.
 
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Trump's political naivete only partly explains the current situation. His naivete is not what fuels the bureaucracy's zealousness in trying to find a way to destroy Trump and his associates.

But that's par for the course in politics these days. Was the GOP half-hearted in its zealousness against Obama? You remember Obama -- the Kenyan Muslim Islamist Marxist usurper, right?

Remember the FEMA death camps? The ACA Death Panels? The brilliantly forged birth certificate? Was there a conspiracy theory the Right didn't at least briefly embrace?

Did the GOP put on its kid gloves with Hillary? A decade later, and they still howl "Whitewater!" "Benghazi!" "Pizzagate!"

And yet both Obama and Clinton got off scot-free. One can only draw one of two conclusions: either 1) Donald's administration is a lot more guilty than the previous one, or 2) What differentiates the past bureaucracy from the present one is not zeal, but competence.

Trump's surprise at that zealousness would be caused by his naivete.

Stunning naivete, if he still hasn't learned to deal with it after a year on the campaign trail and two in office.

After seeing how the levers of that bureaucracy were used to protect Hillary, he ought to have been aware that those same people controlling those levers could go after a politician that was not towing the correct line just as they were used to shelter one they found amenable to their purposes.

Donald has nobody to blame but himself for being such an abysmally slow learner to the political game. If had been so dim on the uptake as a businessman, he'd have gone bankrupt many times over...

...oh, wait.
 
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Which explains why all his cronies are ending up indicted... how long before it's Donald's own head in the noose?
Wow. The rest of us must have missed the news releases about "all his cronies are ending up indicted."

:sigh: And people go ballistic when it is Trump who is engaging in hyperbole. In his case, its always called a lie.
 
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Wow. The rest of us must have missed the news releases about "all his cronies are ending up indicted."

:sigh: And people go ballistic when it is Trump who is engaging in hyperbole. In his case, its always called a lie.

Popadopalous, Manafort, Gates, Flynn, Pinedo, van der Zwaan, Patten, Cohen, Stone...and more on the way.

You're going to have to find something else to pretend to be offended about.
 
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Popadopalous, Manafort, Gates, Flynn, Pinedo, van der Zwaan, Patten, Cohen, Stone...and more on the way.
Proves my point about exaggeration, doesn't it? (And of course, "more on the way" doesn't count for anything).
 
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