What Ideas do you have that might be considered "heretical" by some in your beliefs...?

[christianforumsuser]

Love your neighbor isn't wrong...but people add and subtract and twist Scripture
Even if someone holds a Bible doesn't make them righteous
Having a big congregation and a sheltered lifestyle doesn't make them righteous. No matter how much a man boasts of the Law and still doesn't recognize Jesus and His Word as they're become complacent and conformed to worldly values. What will He say to the lawless who boast of so much but neglected something important?

 

[Yarddog]

What Ideas do you have that might be considered "heretical" by some in your beliefs...?

Let's share them and examine them...

Comments...?

God Bless!

I have asked Catholic scholars about this and have been told that it doesn't fit the criteria of heresy but it certainly isn't taught by the Catholic Church but I believe that the keys which Jesus speaks of in Matthew 16 refers to the Cross and not authority given to Peter. (That I believe occurs in John 21)

The cross is our key to the door of heaven.

 

[christianforumsuser]

How can one have even to the smallest speck of sin and all completely paid for and made relevant...if the moment he goes to the throne he's covered in blood? If someone didn't die with the Christ what relevance are His completed works to take away all the sin of the world if a man himself of his own strength confesses and is not himself Jesus Christ, then the old man might seem to remain, thus not having died with Christ as there's something missing in most faiths that are careless and mixed yet have audacity to point fingers at anyone who says they're righteous and sinless...as if in their mind saying Jesus's words "It is finished" weren't enough? Faith without works is dead...but what use are empty words and ignoring works in Scripture in place of godless tradition acting in a form of godliness but denying its power to make one sinless and righteous by faith
Not to just call the blood enough...quoting this to say "so then the blood makes one righteous, so someone shouldn't be called a sinner if saved"...No, the flesh does sin. And the blood is more than enough. Yet in another context water has its place, connecting the logic so the blood can truly be said in order to be enough.
I did not say the blood is not enough. That's what carnal men say with tricky words.

 

[RaymondG]

You don't apply scripture to you that is about a woman, do you?

Should we exclude ourselves from the possibility of being a Bride of Christ because we are men? How about excluding women from being sons of God because they are women?

I happen to believe the whole bible applies to me.....i guess that could be heretical as well.

 

[1stcenturylady]

But there's some other very important verses you need to learn and believe for context
Those people are carnal people who like worldly things and sin and pointing fingers as if they're holy even apart from Scipture.
But all of you need to hear some other things

I quote scripture. If you are going to debate, do it with scripture. Also, write so your opinion is clear. I'm clueless as to your point.

 

[christianforumsuser]

Indeed. People should use Scripture and not their own thoughts
Why should any man have his own opinion or carnal thoughts or ever speak apart from quoting Scripture
The point is the Word and not man's word is what matters

 

[1stcenturylady]

Response to post #3:
Q1: So do we still have sin if the blood of Jesus cleanses us from all sin?
A1: True Christ-followers continue to sin during their SANCTIFICATION PROCESS. Their sin nature never is eradicated, only redeemed from the prison of sin.

Q2:Just how weak do they believe the blood of Jesus is?
A2: It is not weak at all. But God allows the "free will" of Man to operate within His Sovereignty.

Revelation 1:5(NASB)
5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.
To Him who loves us and released us from our sins (PAST + PRESENT + FUTURE) by His blood—

Q3: Is sin cleansed today, and back tomorrow?
A3: Yes. There is only one "Sinless One"

Before and after salvation:

Romans 3:
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
24 being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus;
25 whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith.

Q4: How many times does Jesus have to die for the same sin?
A4: Once.

1 Peter 2
18 For Christ also died FOR sins once FOR all,
the just (Jesus) FOR the unjust (Man),
so that He might bring us to God, (RECONCILIATION)
having been put to death in the flesh, (CRUCIFIXION)
but made alive in the spirit; (RESURRECTION + APPEARANCES + ASCENSION)

I assume you believe Romans 7 describes your life and you love those verses to stand on. Right or wrong?

 

[christianforumsuser]

Just because someone uses more words or references verses more often doesn't make it right though. It would imply evidence as if they're referencing the Bible, but lots of people hold a Bible and then use it as secondary evidence to prove their thoughts right

I also don't have to conform to someone else's idea of what's proper practice necessarily. Reason is good. I can be nice but in some cases I say I'm being nice but someone says their nice is not my nice. Because they think they hold so much authority and righteousness. I'm being nice, I just don't have to bow and kiss everyone's butt like a harlot. Unless I'm paid properly. Maybe harlotry is the default and anything else is forbidden.
The world is in rebellion making friends, bribing judges, and idolatry, gauging their justification by their own mind's measurements saying "we're nice because we think and say so...look how many agree"

 

[1stcenturylady]

Indeed. People should use Scripture and not their own thoughts
Why should any man have his own opinion or carnal thoughts or ever speak apart from quoting Scripture
The point is the Word and not man's word is what matters

A Christian and a Buddist can say the same thing, but mean two different things. I don't know you, or your background. I don't know if you are a baby Christian or a mature Christian, or even a Christian. Your knowledge and use of scripture will tell me if you are rightly dividing the word of truth. I've already responded to one on here whose response was very enlightening as to his level.

 

[christianforumsuser]

I don't know what that lingo means. I just know some of the Bible. But anyone who thinks they're superior and well-off might find no reason to check if they're not what they think, that rather although they don't understand but assume I lack understanding, I know exactly what I'm talking about and see both while one sees what they see. They say there's no North America...no land past the ocean....If I had darker skin and said I'd sailed there they'd say "haha everyone knows that's not true because we've never seen it"
I'm saying I'm not so far along...but that I recognize that...so in this regard I'm very far ahead

 

[1stcenturylady]

Just because someone uses more words or references verses more often doesn't make it right though. It would imply evidence as if they're referencing the Bible, but lots of people hold a Bible and then use it as secondary evidence to prove their thoughts right

I also don't have to conform to someone else's idea of what's proper practice necessarily. Reason is good. I can be nice but in some cases I say I'm being nice but someone says their nice is not my nice. Because they think they hold so much authority and righteousness. I'm being nice, I just don't have to bow and kiss everyone's butt like a harlot. Unless I'm paid properly. Maybe harlotry is the default and anything else is forbidden.
The world is in rebellion making friends, bribing judges, and idolatry, gauging their justification by their own mind's measurements saying "we're nice because we think and say so...look how many agree"

Watch your language. It is very telling.

 

[christianforumsuser]

It is isn't it. I'm not saying I'm wrong in this case. But not shouting or parading it. I'd rather be right even in a tiny thing...than wrong in a huge thing that spoils
So my size isn't much.

 

[1stcenturylady]

It is isn't it. I'm not saying I'm wrong in this case. But not shouting or parading it. I'd rather be right even in a tiny thing...than wrong in a huge thing that spoils
So my size isn't much.

You may be new so let me tell you if you are making a statement for everyone, keep doing what you are doing. But if you are responding to someone's post, then use the Reply button on that post. Don't go to the bottom of the page. If others are like me, they only get alerts on replies to their own post, and for me, some days I only read what has been responded to me, not others.

 

[christianforumsuser]

You may be new so let me tell you if you are making a statement for everyone, keep doing what you are doing. But if you are responding to someone's post, then use the Reply button on that post. Don't go to the bottom of the page. If others are like me, they only get alerts on replies to their own post, and for me, some days I only read what has been responded to me, not others.

Ok. Context.

 

[1stcenturylady]

Ok. Context.

Great, you found it.

 

[SBC]

Should we exclude ourselves from the possibility of being a Bride of Christ because we are men? How about excluding women from being sons of God because they are women?

I happen to believe the whole bible applies to me.....i guess that could be heretical as well.

You believe you must obey Moses some 600+ laws?

I don't not believe the entire Bible applies to me.
Men / women are both the kind of thing, from out of the dust of the earth called, mankind.

Jesus came, in the likeness as a man, to fulfill scriptures, and they were fulfilled in Him.

And when a man has fulfilled scripture, it is fulfilled in Him, and he becomes in the likeness as God.

God Bless,
SBC

 

[christianforumsuser]

Great, you found it.

It might take a bit of changing my habit. Once someone brings a criticism or advice my mind seems to apply it with a reason according to my goals/desires. I might not get off topic saying this so much. It's not so much about being shown respect for nothing, I want to earn it and help do good for spiritual things more. I wasn't aware or it didn't come to mind so much that hitting reply to quote would be better. So many decisions and

 

[RaymondG]

You believe you must obey Moses some 600+ laws?

I don't not believe the entire Bible applies to me.
Men / women are both the kind of thing, from out of the dust of the earth called, mankind.

Jesus came, in the likeness as a man, to fulfill scriptures, and they were fulfilled in Him.

And when a man has fulfilled scripture, it is fulfilled in Him, and he becomes in the likeness as God.

God Bless,
SBC

You are asking about only 5 books. I stated that the whole book applies, not just the five. Jesus did fulfill the law and all the law and prophets were written of Him. Now it is time to pick our cross and follow Him.

 

[mark kennedy]

What Ideas do you have that might be considered "heretical" by some in your beliefs...?

Let's share them and examine them...

Comments...?

God Bless!

I don't know about heretical but I believe in a mid-tribulation rapture. I believe that the lake of fire literally destroys both the body and soul (annialationism). I think Song of Solomon is an historical narrative.

 

[SBC]

You are asking about only 5 books. I stated that the whole book applies, not just the five.

I know you stated that whole book applies you. Thus I asked you if you obey Mose's laws? You did not answer the question.

Jesus did fulfill the law and all the law and prophets were written of Him.

Jesus fulfilled, all He came to accomplish. (He also fulfilled laws of men)

Now it is time to pick our cross and follow Him.

My time was begun a long time ago. Jesus is my friend.

God Bless,
SBC