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Are gentiles dogs?
bow wow
You apparently think Gentiles are dogs.
So, bow wow and wag yer tail like a good little doggie
Back in those days, you could have heard it said..Matthew 15:22 And behold, a Canaanite woman from that region came out and cried, "Have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David; my daughter is severely possessed by a demon." But he (Christ) did not answer her a word. And his disciples came and begged him, saying, "Send her away, for she is crying after us." He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." But she came and knelt before him, saying, "Lord, help me." And he answered, "It is not fair to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs." She said, "Yes, Lord, yet even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table."
"If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog."
Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b
It was a strong prejudice going on back in those days.. and the dividing lines were so bad that it took a vision to get Peter to see that God does not consider people from other nations as unclean or common and go to Cornelius house to tell him the good news of the gospel. It was the reason for the Jerusalem Council to be held. Paul explained that there should be no more dividing Jew and Gentile.. we are all equal in the eyes of God and we are all called to believe in Him who is our Messiah, our savior, and our hope.
Reminds me of this post on another threadyou can lead a dog to water but it won't change his name to god
Dog is just God backwards.
Reminds me of this post on another thread
http://www.christianforums.com/t7613523/#post62359324
We Gentiles are dogs ??
OK seems the written Scripture has been thrown out as valid. What now?the true Word is that which comes direct from the true God and Jesus, while the biblical scripture is their written word which is recorded in special terms/names completely plain only to certain elected
Blessings
Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus
Reminds me of this post on another thread
http://www.christianforums.com/t7613523/#post62359324
We Gentiles are dogs ??
I suppose that is why they are considered man's best friendOur dog is an allegorical god in our household. One of the kind'est people I've ever met.
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I have answered this point many times only to be dismissed. I do not think you would hear a restatement. So what should I do?Would you answer that question for me? And does the law at all reflect the will of God for man?
I have answered this point many times only to be dismissed. I do not think you would hear a restatement. So what should I do?
bugkiller
Frogs do not bark nor do they have tails.You apparently think Gentiles are dogs.
So, bow wow and wag yer tail like a good little doggie
Naw it is easier to just make another statement. Have no fear it is the same one I have been making all along. This is easily and most comprehensive in 32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. Rom 11Point out the post or posts that describe your position most clearly.
Naw it is easier to just make another statement. Have no fear it is the same one I have been making all along. This is easily and most comprehensive in 32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. Rom 11
bugkiller
So how does the law enter in? Does it cause unbelief-or disobedience, as some translations put it in verse 32?
So how does the law enter in? Does it cause unbelief-or disobedience, as some translations put it in verse 32?
So if a believer sins, do they need to even pay it any mind, to recognize it, to acknowledge any kind of requirement or obligation not to sin? Or what about those believers, referred to in scripture, that persist in serious sin, placing themselves in danger of being cut off? What's their responsibility in the matter? No need to have a consciousness of the law because the Spirit will either lead them to repentance-or not; the Spirit, rather than the Law, should chafe their consciences? OTOH, is this even a realistic scenario? Can anyone really escape consciousness of the Law anyway, and the indictment it brings against sin?rom 11;32, the shut up all, is the same shut up of gal 3;22-23, all were shut up in sin and law, see the connection?
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imprisoned in sin and law, as per some translations, the law was added to increase the sin, rom 5;20, not take it away, only the cross did that.
So if a believer sins, do they need to even pay it any mind, to recognize it, to acknowledge any kind of requirement or obligation not to sin? Or what about those believers, referred to in scripture, that persist in serious sin, placing themselves in danger of being cut off? What's their responsibility in the matter? No need to have a consciousness of the law because the Spirit will either lead them to repentance-or not; the Spirit, rather than the Law, should chafe their consciences? OTOH, is this even a realistic scenario? Can anyone really escape consciousness of the Law anyway, and the indictment it brings against sin?
This is one of the big, big problems we have in the church today. Some churches are lawless and sin has its way in the lives of believers. Yes I am a firm believer in grace through faith; salvation cannot be earned through works of the flesh. BUT the spirit of lawlessness is the spirit of antichrist not true Christianity. We desperately need to get that balance back into the church because the overemphasis on grace is so problematic to true discipleship.
The Apostle Paul did warn about trusting in the law and indeed we dont trust in law we trust in Jesus Christ. However grace presented in such a proof text way is not sound hermeneutics or doctrine. It is in fact an undermining of biblical grace. The sinless Son of God was incarnate in the flesh and paid a terrible price for our sin. We need to honour that sacrifice in humility of faith and not make grace cheep.
Got any specific Scripture you want to talk about? or have you already thrown out Romans?So how does the law enter in? Does it cause unbelief-or disobedience, as some translations put it in verse 32?
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