What Does MARS Already Tell Us?

[Hieronymus]

Title should be "what people tell us about Mars".

 

[The Barbarian]

The Barbarian observes
You assumption is that Niagara Falls is as old as the world.

I don't believe I made that assertion (or assumption).

But you did. You just didn't realize it. If you thought about it for a bit, I'm sure you'd realize how.

Perhaps the contrived fables of geology has confused our discussion.

Like these...

the history of the Flood,

Your non-biblical revision of Genesis is probably at the bottom of it, yes.

[quote And if you were privy to Northern New Mexico bedrock mapping by the Los Alamos National Laboratory, Environment Earth Science Division, [/quote]

I know a geologist who worked there until recently. He seemed completely unaware of anything that would support your modern religion doctrines. Got a link? Quote the data that you think will support your new beliefs.

we'd have even more information.

We would. But you're kinda shy about providing checkable sources, so I think it's unlikely to happen.

But I don't think any amount of evidence will change your agenda.

Funny how people who are resistant to evidence, never realize it, um?



2 Peter 3:3
1 Thess 5:2-3

DaDad[/QUOTE]

 

[DaDad]

... According to Velikovsky, Mars approached Earth, and what if it got so close that Mars' water was pulled off by Earth's gravity?

That's pretty funny.

Could it actually be that because Mars cannot sustain a dense atmosphere because it has no magnetic field, and evaporated water is continually stripped from the thin Mars atmosphere? And we still see remnants of surface water as ice at the Mars poles, along with frozen CO2 -- dry ice.

Of course, it would be interesting if the explorers discovered an approximate 1/4" of iridium rich deposits on the surface the dry lakes, and equally find that iridium is not inherent to Mars.

DaDad

 

[Lazarus Short]

That's pretty funny.

Could it actually be that because Mars cannot sustain a dense atmosphere because it has no magnetic field, and evaporated water is continually stripped from the thin Mars atmosphere? And we still see remnants of surface water as ice at the Mars poles, along with frozen CO2 -- dry ice.

Of course, it would be interesting if the explorers discovered an approximate 1/4" of iridium rich deposits on the surface the dry lakes, and equally find that iridium is not inherent to Mars.

DaDad

Don't depend on Never A Straight Answer to tell you.

 

[DaDad]

(DaDad again declines to provide a link)

You addressed your own question, except you presumed water versus clastic which I specified.

Rivers are an example of clastic flow.

Water is NOT clastic flow.

I know a geologist who worked there until recently. He seemed completely unaware of anything that would support your modern religion doctrines. Got a link? Quote the data that you think will support your new beliefs.

What's his name? I might know him, although there are some 12,000 employees at the Lab.
And given some 12,000 employees, had he talked with any members of the team that went to Turin, Italy to examine the Shroud? Did these original skeptics who had their minds changed, change his? Is a "geologist" proficient in SEM (Scanning Electron Microscopy)? Do they understand the inherent contradiction of a "painting" versus a "negative"? Or how about holograms? Was he even aware that there used to be an "Environmental Earth Science Division"? Had he seen the bed rock mapping results of the GPR (Ground Penetrating Radar) surveys? Can he share his copy of the artist rendering of the mapping with you, so that I don't have to? -- Yeah, ask him, because he's a "geologist".

DaDad

 

[DaDad]

Don't depend on Never A Straight Answer to tell you.

Yeah, I didn't think you'd give a "Straight Answer", although there are straight answers in Scripture if we work them out. But work is hard, and it's easier to scoff at what we don't know and are too lazy to figure out.
DaDad

 

[Lazarus Short]

Yeah, I didn't think you'd give a "Straight Answer", although there are straight answers in Scripture if we work them out. But work is hard, and it's easier to scoff at what we don't know and are too lazy to figure out.
DaDad

You misunderstand: "Never A Straight Answer" = NASA.

 

[DaDad]

You misunderstand: "Never A Straight Answer" = NASA.

Ohhhhh, -- Sorry, I was aware of "Fumbling Bumbling Idiot" (which we see especially now in the news), but hadn't heard the "Never A ... ".

And the sad thing is, it's not any one organization but the entire government ( ~and mankind ~ ) which can't be trusted. Perhaps that's why when Nebuchadnezzar (Babylonian Empire) employed the "metropolis" model to regulate commerce, build roads, create libraries, and even the Great Hanging Gardens, that it's evolved to the point where municipalities seek to regulate the ounces of sugary carbonated drinks dispensed. So is it any wonder that this "Mystery Babylon" will be destroyed and another set up in it's place.

Thanks,
DaDad

 

[The Barbarian]

(Barbarian notes DaDad again fails to provide a link)

You addressed your own question, except you presumed water versus clastic which I specified.

We get it. You either forgot where you heard that story, or you just made it up yourself. And you don't seem to know what "clastic" means.

clas·tic
/ˈklastik/
adjective
Geology
adjective: clastic

1. denoting rocks composed of broken pieces of older rocks.

Water is NOT clastic flow.

Clastic sediments are deposited in a wide range of environments, including glaciers, slope failures, rivers — both fast and slow, lakes, deltas, and ocean environments — both shallow and deep. Depending on the grain size in particular, they may eventually form into rocks ranging from fine mudstone to coarse breccia and conglomerate.
6.1 Clastic Sedimentary Rocks – Physical Geology

What's his name?

Here's a hint: By Bayou University.

(stuff about the Shroud of Turin)

You're having trouble focusing, I think.

 

[DaDad]

adjective: clastic

1. denoting rocks composed of broken pieces of older rocks.

But it's not just rocks, as I stated. Trees were in the mix, and in a turbulent flow the river banks and bottom can play a role in battering a body so severely that heads and limbs would be separated.

So thanks for agreeing.

... Bayou University ...

Ummmmm, LANL was run by UC. Many others were on-site, but they weren't staff.

DaDad

 

[The Barbarian]

Barbarian observes:
You don't seem to know what "clastic" means:
clas·tic
/ˈklastik/
adjective
Geology
adjective: clastic

1. denoting rocks composed of broken pieces of older rocks.

But it's not just rocks, as I stated.

See the definition. You just didn't realize what it means.

Trees were in the mix, and in a turbulent flow the river banks and bottom can play a role in battering a body so severely that heads and limbs would be separated.

As you learned, that's false. The Karoo formation shows you're wrong. Your assumption as you now admit, was wrong. So thanks for agreeing.

What's his name?

Barbarian suggests:
Here's a hint: By Bayou University.

Ummmmm, LANL was run by UC. Many others were on-site, but they weren't staff.

Went right over your head. If you were there, it seems likely you weren't involved in research.

 

[DaDad]

Barbarian observes:
You don't seem to know what "clastic" means:

Me thinks you not know what "objective thinking" means.

DaDad

 

[The Barbarian]

Of course, it would be interesting if the explorers discovered an approximate 1/4" of iridium rich deposits on the surface the dry lakes, and equally find that iridium is not inherent to Mars.

It is, just as it is on Earth. However, being a dense element, it's not very common in the crust. If we were to find a layer of Iridium on Mars, it would mean that Mars was once whacked by a fairly large chunk of asteroid.

 

[The Barbarian]

But it's not just rocks, as I stated. Trees were in the mix,

Barbarian, regarding DaDad's idea that "clastic" means "trees":
You don't seem to know what "clastic" means:

Me thinks you not know what "objective thinking" means.

Let's take a look again:
clas·tic
/ˈklastik/
adjective
Geology
adjective: clastic

1. denoting rocks composed of broken pieces of older rocks.

No trees. Sorry