What Does MARS Already Tell Us?

[DaDad]

To All,
I find it interesting that approximately 5,000 years ago an Ice Asteroid Belt came through our solar system. The ice melted as it entered our atmosphere and formed Noah's Flood. (Part of the evidence is the approximate 0.250" thick layer of iridium rich sediment layer, which is not naturally occurring on earth, but is only available from space.)

Of course, at the same time other planets were impacted, specifically including Venus which is purported to have been completely resurfaced; and Mars where we find arroyos and dry lakes.

But just as the water erosion is particularly evident in the western states, and is attributed by "geologists" to tens of thousands of years of erosion, NASA apparently declines to consider the evidence of Noah's flood in their search for Mar's geological history.

Yep, apparently after several billion dollars of your tax dollars, it appear that Noah's Flood actually occurred ...

Who'da thunk?
DaDad

 

[Lazarus Short]

An "Ice Asteroid Belt"? That's news to me. Got references?

 

[Chris V++]

To All,
I find it interesting that approximately 5,000 years ago an Ice Asteroid Belt came through our solar system. The ice melted as it entered our atmosphere and formed Noah's Flood. (Part of the evidence is the approximate 0.250" thick layer of iridium rich sediment layer, which is not naturally occurring on earth, but is only available from space.)

Of course, at the same time other planets were impacted, specifically including Venus which is purported to have been completely resurfaced; and Mars where we find arroyos and dry lakes.

But just as the water erosion is particularly evident in the western states, and is attributed by "geologists" to tens of thousands of years of erosion, NASA apparently declines to consider the evidence of Noah's flood in their search for Mar's geological history.

Yep, apparently after several billion dollars of your tax dollars, it appear that Noah's Flood actually occurred ...

Who'da thunk?
DaDad

I never heard the asteroid belt idea and the iridium rich sediment layer evidence. I just returned from a trip out west where as you note you can see all kinds of evidence of a massive flood, especially those free standing buttes scattered about. Butte - Wikipedia
Wikipedia avoids the word 'flood' like the plague preferring 'erosion' lest anyone get the wrong idea about all the marine fossils found scattered across the continent.

 

[bcbsr]

To All,
I find it interesting that approximately 5,000 years ago an Ice Asteroid Belt came through our solar system. The ice melted as it entered our atmosphere and formed Noah's Flood. (Part of the evidence is the approximate 0.250" thick layer of iridium rich sediment layer, which is not naturally occurring on earth, but is only available from space.)

Of course, at the same time other planets were impacted, specifically including Venus which is purported to have been completely resurfaced; and Mars where we find arroyos and dry lakes.

But just as the water erosion is particularly evident in the western states, and is attributed by "geologists" to tens of thousands of years of erosion, NASA apparently declines to consider the evidence of Noah's flood in their search for Mar's geological history.

Yep, apparently after several billion dollars of your tax dollars, it appear that Noah's Flood actually occurred ...

Who'da thunk?
DaDad

What I think? I think that's an example of fake news.

 

[SkyWriting]

To All,
I find it interesting that approximately 5,000 years ago an Ice Asteroid Belt came through our solar system. The ice melted as it entered our atmosphere and formed Noah's Flood.
DaDad

Source?

 

[The Barbarian]

I never heard the asteroid belt idea and the iridium rich sediment layer evidence.

The iridium layer is quite narrow, and indicates a single impact of a very large body. The impact crater has since been found. No flood associated with it, of course.

I just returned from a trip out west where as you note you can see all kinds of evidence of a massive flood,

A large number of massive floods, but only one regional one. The Washington scablands show a massive flood occured after the rupture of an ice dam released a huge glacial lake.

especially those free standing buttes scattered about. Butte - Wikipedia
Wikipedia avoids the word 'flood' like the plague preferring 'erosion' lest anyone get the wrong idea about all the marine fossils found scattered across the continent.

If a flood had formed the buttes, you wouldn't see all that eroded rock piled around the bottom of the butte; it would have been carried away. So that's out.

And the center of North America was once a great shallow inland sea. Which is why in Permian strata, we see marine fossils.

Would you like to learn more about those?

 

[Daniel Marsh]

"Ice Asteroid Belt" pseudoscience prophecy - Google Search

 

[DaDad]

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Wikipedia avoids the word 'flood' like the plague preferring 'erosion' lest anyone get the wrong idea about all the marine fossils found scattered across the continent.

One should find it interesting that when the Chinese looked at our fossil museums they laughed. They pointed out that a particular head did not go with that body. -- Of course, our anthropologists associated them due to their physical proximity, but when animals are swept in a clastic flow of water, rocks, and trees, the first thing to be separated is the head. And when they float into an eddy pool, they're random heads and bodies.

Thanks,
DaDad

 

[DaDad]

An "Ice Asteroid Belt"? That's news to me. Got references?

Did you miss the concept of MARS? Or how about the Iridium? Or did you want me to cite that the Niagara Falls recedes approximately one foot per year, and it's approximately one mile long, which translates to approximately 5,000 years since Noah's Flood? -- Of course, I presume that the Flood occurred during the winter months (and it's quite possible that the earth could have been "tilted" during the deluge), and thus the glaciers and respective erosion of the Niagara Falls would only be a rough approximation, but an approximation none the less.

Or so it might appear.
DaDad

 

[The Barbarian]

One should find it interesting that when the Chinese looked at our fossil museums they laughed. They pointed out that a particular head did not go with that body. --

Link?

Of course, our anthropologists associated them due to their physical proximity, but when animals are swept in a clastic flow of water, rocks, and trees, the first thing to be separated is the head. And when they float into an eddy pool, they're random heads and bodies.

The Karoo Formation has untold millions of fossils of animals washed down a river over millions of years. Missing heads are not common.

 

[DaDad]

Link?

Please see below:

The Karoo Formation has untold millions of fossils of animals washed down a river over millions of years. Missing heads are not common.

Thanks,
DaDad

 

[Lazarus Short]

Did you miss the concept of MARS? Or how about the Iridium? Or did you want me to cite that the Niagara Falls recedes approximately one foot per year, and it's approximately one mile long, which translates to approximately 5,000 years since Noah's Flood? -- Of course, I presume that the Flood occurred during the winter months (and it's quite possible that the earth could have been "tilted" during the deluge), and thus the glaciers and respective erosion of the Niagara Falls would only be a rough approximation, but an approximation none the less.

Or so it might appear.
DaDad

That's a nice try at side-stepping, but I asked about the "Ice Asteroid Belt." Do I get an answer or not? BTW, no, I did not miss the concept of Mars...BUT I note that Mars is more more beat-up than our planet. I am also aware of the beating the northern hemisphere took at some time in the past. I know about the iridium as well, having read "The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes."

 

[The Barbarian]

Barbarian asks:
Link?

(No link provided)

So you lost it? Pity.

Of course, our anthropologists associated them due to their physical proximity, but when animals are swept in a clastic flow of water, rocks, and trees, the first thing to be separated is the head. And when they float into an eddy pool, they're random heads and bodies.

Barbarian shows that this is not true:
The Karoo Formation has untold millions of fossils of animals washed down a river over millions of years. Missing heads are not common.

Thanks,

You're welcome. If you ever find that link, let us see it, hear?

 

[The Barbarian]

Did you miss the concept of MARS? Or how about the Iridium? Or did you want me to cite that the Niagara Falls recedes approximately one foot per year, and it's approximately one mile long, which translates to approximately 5,000 years since Noah's Flood?

You assumption is that Niagara Falls is as old as the world. But of course, it's no older than the end of the last ice age, maybe 20,000 years ago.

 

[DaDad]

Barbarian asks:
Link?

(No link provided)

Perhaps you missed it. So I will re-post it as follows:

The Karoo Formation has untold millions of fossils of animals washed down a river over millions of years. Missing heads are not common.

Now all you need to do is winnow the results of a river, versus a clastic flow.

You're welcome,
DaDad

 

[DaDad]

You assumption is that Niagara Falls is as old as the world.

I don't believe I made that assertion (or assumption). Perhaps the contrived fables of geology has confused our discussion.

But of course, it's no older than the end of the last ice age, maybe 20,000 years ago.

Well, I guess ~5,280 is less than your 20,000, so that makes you CORRECT. But you dismiss the history of the Flood, and the evidence given on Mars. And if you were privy to Northern New Mexico bedrock mapping by the Los Alamos National Laboratory, Environment Earth Science Division, we'd have even more information. But I don't think any amount of evidence will change your agenda.

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DaDad

 

[DaDad]

... I note that Mars is more more beat-up than our planet.

Hmmmmm, could it be that because we have regular rains, and plants, and general weathering (i.e., silt), that our planet masks much of the initial evidence? But lacking similar conditions, Mars bears the scars more evidently. -- Whoda guessed?!?
But I'm still confused (as you've apparently attempted to point out), -- just exactly how is it that Mars bares the scars of arroyo's (i.e., "canals") and dry lakes? We purportedly had a "flood", but what happened to Mars?

... I am also aware of the beating the northern hemisphere took at some time in the past. I know about the iridium as well, ...

Great! So we agree?
As such, you might now want to turn your attention to the Ica civilizatiion, which apparently had a favorable southern geography and sufficient elevation to survive the greater impact of the "flood", including their pre-historic dinosaur "war horses".

Nah, I'm talking crazy. Dinosaurs had lizard skin and they pre-dated man, so all the lore of footprints, or temple carvings, or ancient calendars, or even "mystical" beasts such as "bigfoot", or even how about UFO's, are quite possibly drug or alcohol induced fantasies by guys fishing in the backwoods of the South East. -- And I don't even fish!

DaDad

 

[Lazarus Short]

We purportedly had a "flood", but what happened to Mars?

I have a slightly mad theory, partly based on Velikovsky. First, you've got Earth, a planet that always had water, but at some time in the past (recorded in myths worldwide) it got got a LOT more. Then, you've got Mars, a planet that once had water, but now has very little. It has dry lakes and massive outflow channels, but where did the water go? You see where I'm going with this? According to Velikovsky, Mars approached Earth, and what if it got so close that Mars' water was pulled off by Earth's gravity?

 

[The Barbarian]

(DaDad again declines to provide a link)

No one really expected you to do it. The request was just for the record. Regarding your belief about headless fossils:

The Barbarian said:
The Karoo Formation has untold millions of fossils of animals washed down a river over millions of years. Missing heads are not common.

Now all you need to do is winnow the results of a river, versus a clastic flow.

Rivers are an example of clastic flow. Rocks are broken up and carried downstream to be deposited . Perhaps you don't know what "clastic" means? And since the river system and its delta are well-demonstrated in the rocks, there's really no reason to imagine a gigantic flood to do the same things we observe rivers doing today.

And now you see that your original story about headless fossils is false. It's not a common think until the axial skeleton starts to come apart. Someone who knew no more than you do, just told you a story to back up his new religion of YE creationism.

 

[The Barbarian]

I have a slightly mad theory, partly based on Velikovsky. First, you've got Earth, a planet that always had water, but at some time in the past (recorded in myths worldwide) it got got a LOT more. Then, you've got Mars, a planet that once had water, but now has very little. It has dry lakes and massive outflow channels, but where did the water go? You see where I'm going with this? According to Velikovsky, Mars approached Earth, and what if it got so close that Mars' water was pulled off by Earth's gravity?

Clever idea, but the problem is, if Earth's gravity was great enough to pull something like water from the surface of Mars, it would be strong enough to pull Mars from the surface of Mars. Inverse square law, you know.
Inverse-square law - Wikipedia

Other problem is, that much matter, entering the atmosphere, would be a real problem. It would heat up enough to glow. Given the specific heat of water (pretty much the highest in nature), the earth would have been fried. No living things would have survived.