What do you think about pi - should it exist?

[anonymous1515]

Hehe. I missed that gem. My favourite is:

Does God evolve?

New ideas are just that: new ideas. Evolution is a new idea, but I don't think that it has been properly thought out. For example, consider God. God changes all the time, but does evolution apply to Him? The fact is that it does not.

"Wait," I hear you say "God doesn't reproduce, so evolution can't apply to Him." Well, that is interesting, isn't it? The one who created all things can't experience what He created. It's like God creating a rock that He can't lift: something doesn't make sense and it's not God.

What if God did reproduce, do you think that evolution would apply to Him then? Would His children gradually change so that they are nothing like Him? The problem with this is that you would then be saying that there are people more evolved than God. Does that make sense? No.

 

[Gottservant]

Ok well, fan clubs aside, the fact is:

Pi does not make it into heaven.

Its like saying you can divide words by their letters.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Ok well, fan clubs aside, the fact is:

Pi does not make it into heaven.

Its like saying you can divide words by their letters.

So, there are no circles in heaven?

Gott, are you even trying to make sense anymore?

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Ok well, fan clubs aside, the fact is:

Pi does not make it into heaven.

Its like saying you can divide words by their letters.

Well, since pi is a number and not a soul, this isn't surprising. No number makes it into heaven, and pi is not special in this regard. The same is true for words, measurements, linear algebra, and other purely conceptual notions.

 

[Gottservant]

Well, since pi is a number and not a soul, this isn't surprising. No number makes it into heaven, and pi is not special in this regard. The same is true for words, measurements, linear algebra, and other purely conceptual notions.

There is communication in heaven (words), measurements (see Ezekiel), etc. Moreover, "purely conceptual notions" inform much of the architecture.

The fact remains:

Advocating Pi is like saying you can divide words by their letters.

The result of advocating pi is nonsensical, impractical, an eyesore and sundry other things. It should be abandoned.

Can you divide "Pi" by 'i'...? Or by 'P'...? You can't; the exercise is meaningless. As meaningless as creating pi in the first place.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

There is communication in heaven (words), measurements (see Ezekiel), etc. Moreover, "purely conceptual notions" inform much of the architecture.

The fact remains:

Advocating Pi is like saying you can divide words by their letters.

The result of advocating pi is nonsensical, impractical, an eyesore and sundry other things. It should be abandoned.

Can you divide "Pi" by 'i'...? Or by 'P'...? You can't; the exercise is meaningless. As meaningless as creating pi in the first place.

Division is the inverse of multiplication, and as such applies at most to the things that multiplication applies to (it turns out that you can't divide by zero, though you can multiply by it; that's the only exception).
Multiplication is a binary operator defined over the entire set of real numbers. This includes transcendental numbers.

Now, since pi is defined as the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter, and since both of these are non-zero numbers, it follows that pi is a real number. That is, it is not meaningless to posit the existance of pi: it is simply a number. It is the circumference of a unit circle, and can be expressed as the following summation:

And the following integral:

It exists.

Gottservent, just what is your beef with pi? It's just a number. Why not take up a crusade against e, or even i. The latter is, after all, purely imaginary .

 

[Nathan Poe]

There is communication in heaven (words), measurements (see Ezekiel), etc. Moreover, "purely conceptual notions" inform much of the architecture.

So, how do we measure circles in heaven?

The fact remains:

Advocating Pi is like saying you can divide words by their letters.

This is not a fact. This is gibberish.

The result of advocating pi is nonsensical, impractical, an eyesore and sundry other things. It should be abandoned.

Can you divide "Pi" by 'i'...? Or by 'P'...? You can't; the exercise is meaningless. As meaningless as creating pi in the first place.

How can something be meaningless if it works?

Is making sense a sin?

 

[anonymous1515]

The fact remains:

Advocating Pi is like saying you can divide words by their letters.

What the? No, it's more like saying you can spell words with their letters.

This is my favourite thread of all time.

 

[Washington]

So, there are no circles in heaven?

Gott, are you even trying to make sense anymore?

Are you saying that at one time he actually did?

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Are you saying that at one time he actually did?

Such times are as inconceivable as the impossible angles at R'lyeh.

 

[quatona]

Pi is Satan´s strongest weapon.

 

[Gottservant]

Here's an exercise for you:

1. Get a calculator with a sufficiently excruciatingly long display of digits
2. Enter "pi"
3. Stare at pi trying to understand it as meaningful until pain sets in
4. Hit "clear"
5. Reflect on the immediate bliss you felt as pi faded from your mind

Ergo pi is evil (and yes I am competing for FSTDT #1).

 

[Washington]

Here's an exercise for you:

1. Get a calculator with a sufficiently excruciatingly long display of digits
2. Enter "pi"
3. Stare at pi trying to understand it as meaningful until pain sets in
4. Hit "clear"
5. Reflect on the immediate bliss you felt as pi faded from your mind

Ergo pi is evil (and yes I am competing for FSTDT #1).

So, just when do you plan on moving on to step 4?

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Here's an exercise for you:

1. Get a calculator with a sufficiently excruciatingly long display of digits
2. Enter "pi"
3. Stare at pi trying to understand it as meaningful until pain sets in
4. Hit "clear"
5. Reflect on the immediate bliss you felt as pi faded from your mind

Ergo pi is evil (and yes I am competing for FSTDT #1).

Ah, so this is all a farce. Here endeth the longest running Poe ever .

 

[Nathan Poe]

Here's an exercise for you:

1. Get a calculator with a sufficiently excruciatingly long display of digits
2. Enter "pi"
3. Stare at pi trying to understand it as meaningful until pain sets in
4. Hit "clear"
5. Reflect on the immediate bliss you felt as pi faded from your mind

Ergo pi is evil

You know, I get the same feeling every time I close my Bible.

(and yes I am competing for FSTDT #1).

Fat chance of winning it now -- You were funnier back when we thought you were serious.

 

[Washington]

Fat chance of winning it now -- You were funnier back when we thought you were serious.

I don't buy his excuse. Gottservant IS as he appears.

 

[Gottservant]

Fanbase aside, whether or not my mathematical notation might is perfect, consider this:

If pi is part way to 4
4 is a greater part of the way to 1 (Gottservant's law: calculations that cannot be completed detract from future calculations being completed successfully)
but 3 is no less 3
ergo pi is false

..you cannot make rational numbers more finitely rational by polluting their relative value (to other numbers in the number line) with infinitely irrational numbers that should not exist!

In all honesty, the fact that there is no correct way to calculate pi should be telling you something, even before I give you my proof!

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Fanbase aside, whether or not my mathematical notation might is perfect, consider this:

If pi is part way to 4
4 is a greater part of the way to 1 (Gottservant's law: calculations that cannot be completed detract from future calculations being completed successfully)
but 3 is no less 3
ergo pi is false

Once again, ascribing boolean truth values to a number is nonsensicle. Numbers are just numbers, and they can't be true or false any more than a tube of Bonjela can be true or false.

..you cannot make rational numbers more finitely rational by polluting their relative value (to other numbers in the number line) with infinitely irrational numbers that should not exist!

Correct. However, as we have repeatedly shown, pi is not the ratio of two rational numbers.

In all honesty, the fact that there is no correct way to calculate pi should be telling you something, even before I give you my proof!

The fact that we have given you numerous methods is a testament to your desperation.

 

[dlamberth]

What are your intuitions, should a number such as that exist?

As long as human beings use math to engineer and design things that use a circle, Pi has to exist in the human consciousness.

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[StarCannon]

It's just a ratio... so yeah.