what do you know about Islam?

[elwill]

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28: 55 - And when they(rightious men) hear vain talk, they turn away therefrom and say: To us our deeds, and to you yours, peace be to you: we seek not the ignorant​

With Love,
- Jefell

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we didn't need your love Jefell , thank you
peace
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[Jefell]

Junub is an Islamic term meaning "ritually impure due to sexual intercourse or sperm discharge". A person in such a state needs to take a ghusl in order to become ritually pure and be able to perform his salah. A person (while Junub), cannot offer His/her daily salah (prayer). He/she cannot enter a mosque or perform any other islamic rituals such as Reciting Quran, Hadith, etc...

So MOHAMAAD was molesting this child in a tub full of her menstrual blood, in a Mosque during Ramadan!! While YOUR OWN KORAN says He cannot even enter a mosque unclean.. uh huh.. you are being lead straight to hell by this perverted blasphemy of GOD.

Jesus can save you! Seek Jesus Christ for Salvation.


PLEASE CHRISTIANS LET US PRAY FOR THESE LOST SOULS.. LET US REACH OUT TO THEM & SHOW THEM THE WAY THROUGH THE LIVING WORD OF JESUS CHRIST.

With Love,
- Jefell - Servant of the Lord, in the Army of Christ.

 

[Jefell]

28: 55 - And when they(rightious men) hear vain talk, they turn away therefrom and say: To us our deeds, and to you yours, peace be to you: we seek not the ignorant​

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we didn't need your love Jefell , thank you
peace

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My teacher has taught me to Love All. You need the Love of Jesus Christ.. He can Save You. Jesus Christ can save your family. He is the Good Shepherd.

GOD IS GOOD.. GOD IS JOY.. GOD IS LOVE.. GOD IS TRUTH

With Love,
- Jefell

 

[elwill]

My teacher has taught me to Love All. You need the Love of Jesus Christ.. He can Save You. Jesus Christ can save your family. He is the Good Shepherd.

GOD IS GOOD.. GOD IS JOY.. GOD IS LOVE.. GOD IS TRUTH

With Love,
- Jefell

according to your bible . jesus(pbuh) was pray for God , and ask the help from God , and made his miracles by God's will

muslims believe in the God of jesus (pbuh) , how then can i leave the God and worship servant of God (according to the bible jesus(pbuh) is servant)

 

[Jefell]

according to your bible . jesus(pbuh) was pray for God , and ask the help from God , and made his miracles by God's will

muslims believe in the God of jesus (pbuh) , how then can i leave the God and worship servant of God (according to the bible jesus(pbuh) is servant)

GREAT QUESTION!

Jesus is the Living Word of GOD. He teaches love, compassion, tolerance, and joy. You see we as people are all born sinners.. we sin on a daily basis. GOD being the Most Holy of Holy.. Absolute Purity.. is seperated from us by our Sin. Jesus (GOD's only Son) lived a sinless life and died for our sins..
Jn 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. His righteousness is enough for us all.. By accepting Jesus as the Lord and Savior of your life, you accept that Jesus died for your sins..and was resurrected!
YSHWH (Jesus Christ) was crucified, died, buried within a tomb, and resurrected three days later (John 19:30-13, Mark 16;1, Mark 16:6). There are several resurrection appearances of Jesus on different occasions to his twelve apostles and disciples, including "more than five hundred brethren at once" (1 Cor. 15:6), before Jesus' Ascension. Through YSHWH (Jesus Christ), through His Blood, through His Sacrifice, through His Righteousness you are able to repent your sins and have a GATE to GOD! You gain the eternal Gift of Salvation! Once you are Saved, GOD begins to work INSTANTLY & DRAMATICALLY in your life! You already believe in Jesus Christ as he is even in your Koran as a Prophet.. You just do not know His true purpose. You can be saved... you and all of your household.

I pray that you seek Him, He loves you more than you could ever imagine!

The red text is Jesus Speaking
Jn 10:1 "I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by thegate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber.

Jn 10:7 Therefore Jesus said again, "I tell you the truth, I am thegate for the sheep.

Jn 10:9-11 I am thegate; whoever enters through me will be saved. He will come in and go out, and find pasture. The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full. "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.

Jn 14:6-7 Jesus answered, "Iam theway and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."

PRAISE GOD! GOD THANK YOU FATHER FOR THIS GREAT GIFT! THANK YOU LORD JESUS FOR YOUR SACRIFICE AND FOR BEING THE LORD OF MY LIFE.

go to getshook . com and click on GS WORD Newsletter.. read the 5 newsletters.. they will help you on your journey to GOD.


With Love,
- Jefell

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[Rasta]

GREAT QUESTION!

Jesus is the Living Word of GOD. He teaches love, compassion, tolerance, and joy. You see we as people are all born sinners.. we sin on a daily basis. GOD being the Most Holy of Holy.. Absolute Purity.. is seperated from us by our Sin. Jesus (GOD's only Son) lived a sinless life and died for our sins..
Jn 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. His righteousness is enough for us all.. By accepting Jesus as the Lord and Savior of your life, you accept that Jesus died for your sins..and was resurrected! Through Him, through His blood, through His sacrifice, through His righteousness you are able to repent your sins and have a GATE to GOD! You gain the eternal Gift of Salvation! Once you are saved, GOD begins to work INSTANTLY & DRAMATICALLY in your life! You already believe in Jesus as he is even in your Koran as a Prophet.. You just do not know His true purpose. You can be saved... you and all of your household.

I pray that you seek Him, He loves you more than you could ever imagine!

The red text is Jesus Speaking
Jn 10:1 "I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by thegate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber.

Jn 10:7 Therefore Jesus said again, "I tell you the truth, I am thegate for the sheep.

Jn 10:9-11 I am thegate; whoever enters through me will be saved. He will come in and go out, and find pasture. The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full. "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.

Jn 14:6-7 Jesus answered, "Iam theway and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."

PRAISE GOD! GOD THANK YOU FATHER FOR THIS GREAT GIFT! THANK YOU LORD JESUS FOR YOUR SACRIFICE AND FOR BEING THE LORD OF MY LIFE.

go to getshook . com and click on GS WORD Newsletter.. read the 5 newsletters.. they will help you on your journey to GOD.


With Love,
- Jefell

getshook .com - Start Your Journey to GOD

What if you don't believe the stories told by some guys who wrote between 3500 and 2000 years ago?

 

[Jefell]

What if you don't believe the stories told by some guys who wrote between 3500 and 2000 years ago?

Jn 3:20-21 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."

Mk 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.


Lk 8:4-15 While a large crowd was gathering and people were coming to Jesus from town after town, he told this parable: "A farmer went out to sow his seed. As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path; it was trampled on, and the birds of the air ate it up. Some fell on rock, and when it came up, the plants withered because they had no moisture. Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up with it and choked the plants. Still other seed fell on good soil. It came up and yielded a crop, a hundred times more than was sown." When he said this, he called out, "He who has ears to hear, let him hear." His disciples asked him what this parable meant. He said, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that, " ‘though seeing, they may not see; though hearing, they may not understand.’ "This is the meaning of the parable: The seed is the word of God. Those along the path are the ones who hear, and then the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may not believe and be saved. Those on the rock are the ones who receive the word with joy when they hear it, but they have no root. They believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away. The seed that fell among thorns stands for those who hear, but as they go on their way they are choked by life’s worries, riches and pleasures, and they do not mature. But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the word, retain it, and by persevering produce a crop.


With Love,
- Jefell

 

[Rasta]

Jn 3:20-21 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."

Mk 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does notbelieve will be condemned.


Lk 8:4-15 While a large crowd was gathering and people were coming to Jesus from town after town, he told this parable: "A farmer went out to sow his seed. As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path; it was trampled on, and the birds of the air ate it up. Some fell on rock, and when it came up, the plants withered because they had no moisture. Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up with it and choked the plants. Still other seed fell on good soil. It came up and yielded a crop, a hundred times more than was sown." When he said this, he called out, "He who has ears to hear, let him hear." His disciples asked him what this parable meant. He said, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that, " ‘though seeing, they may not see; though hearing, they may not understand.’ "This is the meaning of the parable: The seed is the word of God. Those along the path are the ones who hear, and then the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may notbelieve and be saved. Those on the rock are the ones who receive the word with joy when they hear it, but they have no root. They believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away. The seed that fell among thorns stands for those who hear, but as they go on their way they are choked by life’s worries, riches and pleasures, and they do not mature. But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the word, retain it, and by persevering produce a crop.


With Love,
- Jefell

With love? Sounds lovely. Circulor reasoning doesn't convince me. Does it convince you?

If it does, beware the wrath of Allah!! You don't want molten metal poured in your mouth do?

 

[rahma]

Ok, some serious cases of insta islamo-scholarship going on. Picking up the Qur'an and googling some ahadith do not a scholar make.


1. No one took baths in Arabia 1400 years ago like we take them today. They had a pot of water and they washed dipping into it. The Prophet (saws) bathing from the same pot as Aisha (may God be pleased with her) shows us that what a woman touches during her period does not become unclean. Ditto for their marital play.

2. The Prophet's (saws) dwelling was attached to the masjid. He did not take a bath in the musulla, the place of prayer. He did that in his own private apartments.

3. Aisha's (ra) age is what it is. It does not offend me. I will not say it is wrong. I don't think a single discussion on this topic on this board has ever changed the mind of a single muslim poster.

Looking back a few generations in my own (very european) family, there are marriages between girls and older men. Once a girl began to menstruate, she wasn't a child anymore, she was marriage material. That was the urf, the culture. The urf of today has a concept of childhood, preteens, teenagers and then adults. In the culture of today's society, when one hits puberty, they're not automatically an adult, as they were in the past. As such, it wouldn't be proper to marry a girl once she begins to menstrutate, because society has not prepared her for marriage at that age.

 

[Druweid]

Greetings Jefell.

Allow me to apologize in advance, but I am not reading any of your posts. Regardless of what the actual content may be, your commentary and style of presentation is zealous beyond what I would consider rational.

Also, because I am Pagan, if I were to present and interpret Christian scripture to you, you would not attribute me with an iota of credibility for my lack of faith. In the same light, you, being Christian, should have an equal amount of credibility while presenting and interpreting the Koran.

Respectfully,
-- Druweid

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

according to your bible . jesus(pbuh) was pray for God , and ask the help from God , and made his miracles by God's will

muslims believe in the God of jesus (pbuh) , how then can i leave the God and worship servant of God (according to the bible jesus(pbuh) is servant)

I would tend to agree.
Notice the final chapter in the GNT book of Revelation what the messenger says to John when he falls to worship him. Verse 16 seems to imply it is Jesus.

Will have to look at this more closely as Revelation is a highly Hebrew symbolic book. Thoughts?

Reve 22:8 And I, John, the one hearing and beholding these things, and when I hear and behold, I fall to worship before the feet of the messenger, the one showing to me these things.
9 And he is saying to me: "Be you seeing! no, fellow bond-servent of thee I am and of the brothers of thee, the prophets and of the ones keeping the Words of the scrollet, this. To the GOD worship you!
16 I Jesus, send the messenger of me to testify to ye these things on the ecclesias. I am the root and the breed of David. The star, the shining, the morning.

 

[Druweid]

Continued from my previous post...

Also note the important fact that Moslems are still allowed to marry girls.

Are you specifying girls as young as nine? And this would likely be in countries other than the US, UK, and Australia?

I've cited several Moslem advice sites on this thread that attest to this.

And I thank you for providing the links.

Sorry Druweid. I forgot to cite the verses

Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268:

Narrated Qatada:
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Volume 1, Book 5, Number 270:

Narrated Muhammad bin Al-Muntathir:

The claims of 'control' regarding his desires then have to be seen in light of the beliefs they have about his sex life.

Um, yes, thanks. (sheesh) You've provided an ABUNDANCE of information to go over. This may take a little while.

Okay, first, the link you provided "Harmful Traditional Practices Affecting he Health of Women and Children" from the OHCHR. I agree with his document completely. However, in my first post, I was careful to specify "and unto itself was not harmful..." The fact sheet from the OHCHR talks about specific practices of arranged marriages, not arranged marriage as a whole. This is not to say they spoke of isolated cases, I'm only saying that cases did exist where such practices did not occur. Much that they spoke of focused on early-age pregnancy, and as far as I know, Aisha did not bear any children. So I maintain, the marriage itself does not bother me, although actions taken after or as a result of that marriage are still a concern.

Which then leads to indications of Mohammad's prowess and frequency of intimate relations. First and foremost, any claim of prowess or virility by a man over 40, whether by himself or his friends, is met with a carefully-considered measure of skepticism (And most men over 40 know EXACTLY what I'm talking about). Also. being in a hadith rather than the Koran, it immediately assumes slightly lesser credibility.

The one thing that sticks in my mind is that if Mohammad (pbuh) was having intercourse with Aisha with ANY amount of frequency, how is it that she never became pregnant? While this proves nothing, per se', it certainly begs the question of whether or not he had actual intercourse with her very often, if at all, or if he was simply intimate (i.e. fondling, etc.)

Moslems respect Muhammad and see him as an example FOR ALL TIME - not just for the people of the desert of 7th Century Arabia. His wives are 'archetypes' of the sort of women Moslems are permitted to marry. For instance he married an older woman, a Chrisitan, and a Jew. A Moslem is thus permitted to marry a Christian because of this example.

Point taken, and unless someone has information to the contrary, I see no reason why this can't be taken at face value.

This does not mean "All moslems will marry Chrisitan women" but it is allowed.

Of course, perfectly clear. Now, I see two ways how the issue of age can be viewed, as you say, by example of the Prophet:

A) It is acceptable to be engaged to with a girl of six.
B) It is acceptable to be engaged to a girl of an age acceptable by the prevailing society.

This is a clear sign Islam is not of God because their god did not forsee the harm this would cause.

Honestly, this is ground you cannot cover with me (at least not without great difficulty). I am firmly dedicated to not presuming, or even attempting to presume, the intentions, thoughts, or purposes of The Most Holy, so I certainly may not comment on what may or may not have been foreseen. That having been said, many harmful customs have existed in the past, by all peoples of all religions. All have advanced, in varying degrees, from such harmful practices. If such practices still exist in some form today, it is out of sheer ignorance or apathy. If apathy can be proved within reason, that I may concede puts a great distance between the offender and God.

Respectfully,
-- Druweid

 

[Fuzzy]

Wow, lots of pages...

What do you know about islam?
It’s a question I always wanted to ask to non- Muslim
Does Islam mean terrorism??
Does Islam mean violence???
Does Islam mean women depression???
Is Islam a barbaric religion only for Arabs?​

In order...
The basic premise is submission to God's will, with the submission guided by the Qu'ran and the hadith..hadiths?

Islam does not mean terrorism or violence, but there are practitioners of both who cite Islamic philosophy as a reason.

Islam has a code of behavior for the genders that others see as repressive. It's relative.

It is not a barbaric religion only for Arabs, although it is culturally tied to the Arab world.

And he slayed the pagans. Where are the Arab 'Goths' of today?

There are no Arab Goths, as Goths are from Europe.

All those here of Wiccan background too, where are the Arab Wiccans?

Texas. Well, two are.

Great. And I'm sure the Austrian dude who kept his daughter locked up regularly fed her and looked after her too.

Well, he did. And kept their offspring fed, too. The ones who were too noisy, he got rid of.

What I find sad is your defending of a man who sexually assaulted a child. Why all of you put your hand up to rush to defend this is very sad.

He "sexually assaulted a child" from a 20th/21st century mindset. We can spin around all day about the horrible morals of other cultures (foreign and domestic, past and present).


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The next two quotes were edited for brevity's sake.

how then can i leave the God and worship servant of God (according to the bible jesus(pbuh) is servant)

GREAT QUESTION!

Jesus is the Living Word of GOD...Jesus (GOD's only Son) lived a sinless life and died for our sins......Through YSHWH (Jesus Christ), through His Blood, through His Sacrifice, through His Righteousness you are able to repent your sins and have a GATE to GOD!

(I'm going to make some assumptions now)
Jefell, you're asking a Hard Monotheist (as I assume elwill to be, as a Muslim) to believe in a multi-part deity, if not outright polytheism. Your argument is not exactly going to win him over, since you're asking him to believe in anathema.

Meanwhile, the non-Abrahamic practitioners on the board (who range from Soft Polytheists to Hard Polytheists to Pantheists to Atheists) aren't particularly compelled by your arguments since the authority of the Christian Bible isn't held very high.

And that's a stumbling block, IMO, with Trinitarian doctrine. If God is (Father/Son/Spirit), then why does one need (Son)? Isn't God God?
The fundamental principle of Islam is tahwid - One God.

If God-the-Father and God-the-Son are discrete and distinct from each other, then the Jews and Muslims can sit donwn and hash out Monotheism, while the Christians can come over here with the rest of the "heathens."

So which is it, Jefell? How do you prove Trinitarian doctrine is the better theology than Tahwid?

 

[Montalban]

You're argument was
"Young marriage was kept because it was normal practice"

You need to think then about what argument you wish to make

i will repeat my statement again
it didn't rejected by allah although it was normal practice

No. Even a Moslem shouldn't make this argument. As noted, child infanticide was 'normal' practice. You should stick to arguing that your god kept it because it was 'good', not 'normal'.

are you consider that , reform of relegion ?

You're missing the point. You asked what were the reforms YOU made, according to Wahibbis. I make no claim that it is a 'reform'. You said that there were NONE. I said that a group of Moslems disagree. I proved my point.

thank you , but please can you make it easier for me
what is the kind of suffering for early girls pride?
we are common that God didn't prohibit it in islam and christianity , so that i wanna to understand your personal view

My personal view on one topic isn't relevant to this topic

well , my openion is that she is ready for that . proof for me that i'm wrong

I've already done that. You oppose this now with your opinion that she's not; based on circular logic regarding its approval by Al-lah - whom you actually demeen by saying that he approved of it not because it was good, but because it was normal practice. You're tying his hands

i never see any problems with early marriage ? did you ?

Why do you think I'm arguing it's evil?

i didn't need to do so
we argue about the practice not about Aisha (AS)

I asked you for proof. You've not done so

may be , but she has the right to marry (from relegious point of view )

That's as funny as the line of argument in Zoolander where they say children have a right to work in sweat factories

well , count for me the problems , and don't repeat your words " she not mature emotionally" , i want the problems caused of that

I already cited you evidence from the UN about the dangers. You asked "Where?" I re-cited it. Why don't you read it first before responding

all i ask is to convice me that this practice is harmfull , we believe that if it's harmfull , so it could be prohibited in islam by God

Which is based on your circular logic

 

[Montalban]

Yup, and look where I stated "Ah! I know this is lame answer." That's not my real point, but my points are located below my lame answers.

You simply enjoy typing

Nope. There's no law of marrying girls when they reach certain age in Quran. It's no like we seperate it, but just move with todays situation. It's like the drugs abuse law. There's no law in Quran that permits nor disallow it.

Firstly, not all your laws are based on the Koran. There's nothing directly about smoking, but there is, indirectly, such as keeping your breathe from being foul. However, you've a non-point here because as you note there's no Koranic verse saying "Don't marry a nine year old", so if it were legal - in a secular sense, it would be legal, religiously.

Same with this case. None in Quran that disallow this but the top priority than allowing this is to follow the contitutional law. The leaders can make the law which is not against God's command.

That's not true either. You're allowed to disobey 'evil' leaders

Wasn't aware? Haha. It's more like 'my' God allow us to go with temporary trend and needs

Yes, your god allows you to be convenient. So, if pressed you could lie about your faith.

Since you can freely speaking of 'my' God, does 'your' Bible disallow or condemn this kind of marriage?.

a) it's irrelevant to a debate on Islam what my Bible says
b) it's doubly irrelevant because it assumes that my faith is to be based solely what the Bible says, anyway.

I was thinking, maybe todays legal marriage age would increase in 100 years maybe and todays 16 year old marriage will be labeled as phedophile

*sigh* why even use that term? I made no claim Muhammed is one.

Anyway, you've not addressed the issue that Moslem nations see fit to surpass your gods laws and institute more rational laws regarding marriage.

 

[Montalban]

I would tend to agree.
Notice the final chapter in the GNT book of Revelation what the messenger says to John when he falls to worship him. Verse 16 seems to imply it is Jesus.

You agree with his statement we worship the same God?

 

[Montalban]

There are no Arab Goths, as Goths are from Europe.

There are Goths in Australia. Perhaps you're thinking of the tribe of Germanic peoples known as Goths. But they weren't 'from' Europe either. They settled in Europe. So I don't know what your point is.

 

[Jefell]

So which is it, Jefell? How do you prove Trinitarian doctrine is the better theology than Tahwid?

Well first off Allah is many gods made into one.. thats like me taking a statue of a duck, a piano, 2 chickens, 6 nails, a picture of a meadow, a candle stick and a wet rock.. put them all in a box and call them Boo-Boo-Cha! Mohamaad said, "I make all the things in the box one and call them Boo-Boo-Cha" All hail the mighty Boo-Boo-Cha! The only real difference is Mohamaad actually took idols and fake gods that many different people created and worshiped and said he makes them one GOD. SO, SORRY PAL.. but GOD is the creator of EVERYTHING. Either your box of allah isn't the creator or all.. or he doesnt exist at all.. Your "doctrine" is flawed from its very beginning.


Now most importantly something for you deeply understand from one end of the universe to the other.. I do not have a "doctrine", a "theory", not even a "religion" ... I have a personal, intimate relationship with GOD. I am not connected to Him through a pastor, preacher or a building. The moment I accepted and believed in what Jesus Christ did for me this impermeable bond was established.


As for the Trinitarian doctrine .. The Father, the Son, & The Holy Spirit..
I am a Father, a Son, and have an eternal spirit ... He made me like Him

Ge 1:27 So God created man in his own image

I can break it down a little more for ya.. GOD is our Father (including yours) who knows every hair on our heads who fastened us together and gave us the gift of existance. Since the first sin of Adam and Eve, people are born sinners. This sin is what separates us from GOD since He is the Most High, Holy of Holy, Absolute Purity, Love, Joy, and the very foundation of Truth. Jesus Christ being born of GOD by GOD makes Him the Son. The Son was born to be the gate to Him. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to Save the world through Him. GOD gave us His Son (GOD's Flesh & Spirit) as not only the perfect role model but to be Our Lord & Savior! And wOw! He is a beautiful Lord to follow

Of course GOD is the omnipresent creator of everything.. hence the Holy Spirit.

As I told ya.. I KNOW GOD. There is only one way to Him... through the Gate.. so if you are trying to reach GOD through a mentally twisted, spiritually desperate, lonesome pedophile whose very roots lead to Ishmael the son born in faithless sin who was cast out into the desert by the orders of GOD... start over. Follow GOD's Chosen line.. Start with Abraham, follow Isaac (the son of GOD's promise) down the line to King David.. all the way to Mary (the virgin mother of Jesus through Mary's father!) Also Solomon (King David's Son) leads to Joseph (Virgin Mary's Husband). And of course you have Jesus.. born from Virgin and GOD!

DIVINITY.. ITS CLEAR. ITS PURE.


Rev 9:20-21 The rest of mankind that were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the work of their hands; they did not stop worshiping demons, and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone and wood—idols that cannot see or hear or walk. Nor did they repent of their murders, their magic arts, their sexual immorality or their thefts.

A 52 year old man raping a 9 year old girl.. is immoral, murder is immoral, lying is immoral... Mohamaad is Immoral and ISLAM does not have a gate.. how can you repent? SEEK JESUS... HE IS THE GATE.

Jn 10:11 "I am the goodshepherd. The goodshepherd lays down his life for the sheep.

GOD BLESS YOU, I PRAY HE TOUCHES YOUR LIFE.

With Love,
- Jefell

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[Zstar]

I am not a Muslim, but I can tell you the length of the Qu'ran!

It is about the size of the New Testament.. In fact, just a little smaller. So, it is not very long, but it is very powerful.

Thanks for the information! The comparison with the New Testament does put it in perspective to me.

all of the saying of the prophet peace be upon him are sacred every thing he said every thing he did

Is a good percentage of the material a biography?

 

[Islam_mulia]

Anyway, you've not addressed the issue that Moslem nations see fit to surpass your gods laws and institute more rational laws regarding marriage.

You are appealing to ignorance. The Quran and hadith do not specify any minimum age of marriage. What 'law' are you talking about?

With no verdict from the scripture on what age a woman can get married, Muslim scholars and jurists can consider the miminum age set by the constitutional law of the country.

Since you are crying foul while wearing your Christian cap, please tell us what your Christian scriptures and tradition state regarding the appropriate age of marriage for women. That way we can see if there is value in a Christian's voice against Muslim's 'marriageble age'.

Agree?