What do you hate about anime?

[MissFirerose]

 

[Marth]

ah the joys of anime *goes and stabs a picture of dragonballz* reason i dont like dbz no mores is well (have i said this before if i have then you can instead of reading this post look at this little smiley... and stare at it until you realize the meaning of life....) ANYWAYS its because certain episodes *stares at the frieza saga dvd his sister has* go on forever....its....so.....annoying....*falls to the ground writhing in pain*

 

[MissFirerose]

ah the joys of anime *goes and stabs a picture of dragonballz* reason i dont like dbz no mores is well (have i said this before if i have then you can instead of reading this post look at this little smiley... and stare at it until you realize the meaning of life....) ANYWAYS its because certain episodes *stares at the frieza saga dvd his sister has* go on forever....its....so.....annoying....*falls to the ground writhing in pain*

It's currently running on the international channel.. one episode per week, before dubbed Tenchi on Sundays... You can go away for six months and still know what's happening. I'm pretty sure they're finally on GT now.. haven't checked up to see what's happening with that series for quite a while. Incidentally, why would the international channel show a series dubbed in english? I was rather looking forward to hearing the original voice work in Tenchi. Oh well. *sighs* And I really miss Slayers.. I wish they'd air it again. *cries*

Here... *hands Marth some crappy Tylenal* It's supposed to help with pain..

 

[SqueakyGerbil]

The few dislikes I have in regards to anime:

-while I deal with homosexuality in anime the same way I do in my life (I will pray for them and continue to be friends with them) I do not care to see anything more then "hints and discussion". Mind you I feel the same way with any kind of "anime public displays of serious affection". A good example of this is Sailor Moon S (which delt well with the relationship between Uranus and Neptune) as opposed to Sailor Moon Stars (which had one or two scenes that make me a little uncomfortable)
-anime fans who feel that they are more superior then people who are "more new" to anime. This has actually caused me to leave more then one anime forum in the past.
-when a storyline is hinted at but takes forever to actually get into. This is more to do with Kakashi's (Naruto) background then anything.
-when they spend the first half of a 30 minute episode going over the previous episode (Naruto is kinda bad for this).
-when a really good anime goes from really good animation to horrible animation. The last episode of Naruto that I saw did that (the episode where Sasuke finally shows up at the end). I am not the only fan of this series to have picked up on that.

 

[Koryu]

I agree! I agree! DOWN WITH DBZ!!!

ah the joys of anime *goes and stabs a picture of dragonballz* reason i dont like dbz no mores is well (have i said this before if i have then you can instead of reading this post look at this little smiley... and stare at it until you realize the meaning of life....) ANYWAYS its because certain episodes *stares at the frieza saga dvd his sister has* go on forever....its....so.....annoying....*falls to the ground writhing in pain*

 

[iter itineris]

There are a lot of interesting anime's with such undertones… Lain had such undertones...

Really? I must have missed it, what scene are you referring to?

Personally, I often get irritated when people try to justify their personal prejudices towards things by relating whatever it is they thing prejudiced thoughts about to something that has absolutely no similarities. It's grasping at straws.

What you consider an "abomination to God" does not in any way make your opinion any more relevant or important than what another person considers an "abomination to God".

Ummm, ever read the Bible? That is what a Christian basis their understanding of God on:

Leviticus 18
22 " 'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

Leviticus 20
13 " 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

Romans 1
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

Romans 1
32 Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

1 Corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders

-while I deal with homosexuality in anime the same way I do in my life (I will pray for them and continue to be friends with them) I do not care to see anything more then "hints and discussion".

I agree totally, it is to be done with Love in regards to the new Covenant, like I said, sin is sin. Yet, to watch it as entertainment is not loving to God either. I do understand some good anime has only a little of that in it, and is hard sometimes to totally stay away from. I liked The Wanderers / El Hazard and it had that gay little girl, and the fact she was a little girl made it worse, I had to just hold my stomach for those parts since they weren’t too graphic.

-when they spend the first half of a 30 minute episode going over the previous episode (Naruto is kinda bad for this).

I’m with you on that one. I also hate it when they have an entire episode showing clips of old ones, and somehow work that into a the plot somehow. Though I understand it is nice if you missed a lot of them.

 

[MissFirerose]

Ummm, ever read the Bible? That is what a Christian basis their understanding of God on:

It's ironic that whenever someone comes across another with a different opinion than them, they automatically assume they have no foreknowledge of the material. I don't care for your sarcastic tone. It's immature and a pale attempt at coming across at being superior.

For Lev,use of scripture to condemn homosexuality is based on taking certain verses out of context, or ignoring their original purpose all together.
In ancient Pagan Caananite religion, the belief was that the fertility of the land depended on the sex god Molech, or Baal, having sex with the goddess Asherah. The temple had prostitutes represent the goddess asherah, while the customer of represented molech. This sex was a form of worship to Molech, the believed result of this worship was that the land would never go barren.

The worshipper would visit the temple and become the avatar of Molech while having sex with the prostitute, who was the avatar of Asherah. He would make an offering first though (making it temple *prostitution*).

But, what really get's interesting here is that these prostitutes (who were avatars of asherah)were men, usually BOYS! These males/ boys dressed up as women, wearing vestments and even an elaborate mask of the goddess asherah. The customers of these boy-prostitutes were always men... men who lied with males as though they were actually females!

In Romans 1, verses 18-32, Paul describes the idolatrous state of the world in his day. He also describes the state of the world in every age and country where there is no true worship of God, our Creator and "Father which art in heaven". Ignorance of the "only true God", and worship of false gods, both breed disgusting immorality and terrible social evils. The Roman world, and our secular world, is guilty of of idolatry.


The Corinthians verse you mentioned is the result of poor translations. The word "homosexual" wasn't even used in the Bible until 1946! The words that were taken to mean homosexuals were malakoi and arsenokoitai. Malakoi basically can either mean soft morals or physically soft, such as clothing or perhaps children. Arsenokoitai is roughly translated as male prostitutes (the direct translation is "male bed"). The correct translation would either be something along the lines of male prostitutes or child molesters.

I agree totally, it is to be done with Love in regards to the new Covenant, like I said, sin is sin.

In your opinion and your interpretation. If someone wanted to, they could use the Bible to justify just about any sort of loving relationship as sin. Just a little reminder, did you know that there are at least eight different forms of marriage mentioned in the Bible, two of which are polygamy and a rape victim marring her rapist. Can't you just feel the love, especially with the latter?

Yet, to watch it as entertainment is not loving to God either.

Putting up with people who constantly call what you have filthy, evil, wrong, ect is a mighty tribute to love, and to God. I have a vast amount of respect for gay people, and any people that have to put up with ridiculous bigotry and prejudice from those who are ignorant, fearful, or not understanding.

I do understand some good anime has only a little of that in it, and is hard sometimes to totally stay away from. I liked The Wanderers / El Hazard and it had that gay little girl, and the fact she was a little girl made it worse, I had to just hold my stomach for those parts since they weren’t too graphic.

To like anime at all, you have to be pretty open minded. Another paradox I suppose.

 

[iter itineris]

Hummm, you said you don’t care for my sarcastic tone, sorry that was just my first reaction. You said that it's immature and a pale attempt at coming across at being superior. How do you justify calling me ignorant, fearful, or not understanding? I’d say that is a bit more offensive, you are assuming because I believe the Bible is saying what it says that I am ignorant? Ya, that alone shows that you are showing that you yourself are pulling a superior attitude.

It is true that these things happened, such as the having sex with the goddess Asherah. But I see no where in the Bible that this is referring strictly to that. I’d say that was taking things out of context.

I don’t see how a simple verse can be stretch “'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.” To mean something else. Not to be graphic, but I suppose God created the rear end of a male to have a male’s part shoved up it. Or that he created women to not have that part, so they can use devices they buy in a porn shop instead. I guess that’s why Paul said, “exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones”???

But look at it how you want to. Anyone can say anything they want to by changing or adding to the interpretation of a Bible verse. No offense intended, in today’s society I expect nothing less.

But this is an anime list, so BACK TO ANIME! :topic: If you want to debate this I will be glad to join you in a group on a different category.

 

[MissFirerose]

Hummm, you said you don’t care for my sarcastic tone, sorry that was just my first reaction.

Sadly, sarcasm is often a first response here.

You said that it's immature and a pale attempt at coming across at being superior. How do you justify calling me ignorant, fearful, or not understanding? I’d say that is a bit more offensive, you are assuming because I believe the Bible is saying what it says that I am ignorant?

I never said that about you. Go back and read what I wrote more closely, please. I was referring to bigoted, ignorant, and prejudiced people who condemned gay people with no sense or reason. I never mentioned you. If you feel like you fit that description though, I can't really do anything to help you. I suppose though, if you rose to defend yourself against statements that I didn't make against you, but instead made against people in general, it does make for an interesting observation.

Ya, that alone shows that you are showing that you yourself are pulling a superior attitude.

Considering the only thing I specifically addressed to you were the verses you posted, I fail too see how I come across as being superior. You yourself, in fact, were the one asking if I even read the Bible to begin with, which I would consider far more of a superior attitude than going into depth about each verse you posted.

It is true that these things happened, such as the having sex with the goddess Asherah. But I see no where in the Bible that this is referring strictly to that. I’d say that was taking things out of context.

If you read about the history of the time when that part of the Bible was written, who it was written to, and why it was written, it makes perfect sence. It's on these grounds that the entire context of the text is established, so saying it's taken out of context is a contradiction. On the other hand, it's much easier to cherry pick one verse out of an entire chapter to suit ones needs, and disregard all instances having to do with the enviorment and whom it was being written to.

I don’t see how a simple verse can be stretch “'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.” To mean something else.

To get technical, the verse directly translated is: " You must not sleep the sleep of a woman with a man; it is ritually impure." So to even translate it into what you wrote, takes some interpretation. For instance, "ritually impure" becoming detestable, ect. I explained it fairly clear to my knowledge of what it was referring too. If you want to ignore what I wrote and continue to carry on about how you can't see how it can be "stretched" when it clearly shows a blaringly obvious link, I can't do anything for you.

Not to be graphic, but I suppose God created the rear end of a male to have a male’s part shoved up it.

Heterosexual couples have anal sex too. This argument is irreverent.

Or that he created women to not have that part, so they can use devices they buy in a porn shop instead.

Once again.. read above. Straight couples use toys as well. It's irreverent.

I guess that’s why Paul said, “exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones”???

Sure, if you take a total of five words out of a chapter that had thousands, you could come to the conclusion that he was condemning gay people. You could also come to the conclusion that he was condemning anything that you wanted to consider unnatural. Natural relations could be relations between humans and the earth, or humans and God, you could stretch it to say anyone who wears eyeglasses or something equally ridiculous is being condemned because they are "exchanging natural relations (between their bodies and God) for what is unnatural. Of course, no one would do something as silly as that, because we know enough to read more than five words in a chapter of a book. Any book.

On a side note, Paul and Jesus had a lot of conflicting views. I personally choose to follow what Jesus said on anything that conflicted with Paul. But that's just me.

But look at it how you want to. Anyone can say anything they want to by changing or adding to the interpretation of a Bible verse. No offense intended, in today’s society I expect nothing less.

Of course not. But, whenever it's you, it's always "interpretation", and whenever it's someone with a conflicting opinion, it's "twisting." The most we can do is look at the environment at the time the particular passage was written, and look at who it was written too. Without that knowledge, the Bible can become a very dangerous tool, as we have seen numerous times in history.

But this is an anime list, so BACK TO ANIME! :topic:If you want to debate this I will be glad to join you in a group on a different category.

Well, someone brought up the idea that gays in anime were bad, I responded, and then you responded, and then I responded again.. and so on..

 

[ThePhoenix]

Really? I must have missed it, what scene are you referring to?

Arisu ring any bells? I'm pretty sure Lain thought of her as more then just a friend, though it didn't seem to be reciprocated. But that series is so open to interpretation it's hard to really make calls like that.

 

[iter itineris]

But this is an anime list, so BACK TO ANIME! :topic: If you want to debate this I will be glad to join you in a group on a different category.

Sorry to escalate it, which is why I suggested a different group/discussion. You did your homework, I’ll give you that. But each comment you made I can refute. So if to continue the appropriate measure is to continue this on a non-anime topic.

 

[Sheseala]

Ever notice that Arisu wrote her name "Alice" on one of the screen shots? Fits in with some of the Alice in Wonderland references. It always made me wonder why the subs did not follow suit.

/off topic

 

[MissFirerose]

Sorry to escalate it, which is why I suggested a different group/discussion. You did your homework, I’ll give you that. But each comment you made I can refute. So if to continue the appropriate measure is to continue this on a non-anime topic.

Meh, you seemed to "refute" buy making general references to your own interpretation (such as what Paul meant, etc), and never really argued a specific point that I made. But, I agree, this is an anime board, so let's both drop it.

 

[iter itineris]

Meh, you seemed to "refute" buy making general references to your own interpretation (such as what Paul meant, etc), and never really argued a specific point that I made. But, I agree, this is an anime board, so let's both drop it.

I didn't want to get too deep into it, NO that isn't a copout *cough*

I do want to note for the record, I have a really good friend who struggles with homosexuality and is dieing from aids. We are good friends and talk about the things of God a lot. Just didn’t want you to think I was living in the old covenant where we are to stone those with sin. The argument between you and me is whether it is a sin or not. But like we both agree, wrong discussion group.

 

[MissFirerose]

I didn't want to get too deep into it, NO that isn't a copout *cough*

I do want to note for the record, I have a really good friend who struggles with homosexuality and is dieing from aids. We are good friends and talk about the things of God a lot. Just didn’t want you to think I was living in the old covenant where we are to stone those with sin. The argument between you and me is whether it is a sin or not. But like we both agree, wrong discussion group.

Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that. Your friend will be in my prayers. No, I didn't think you lived in an old conenvant. I hope no one today would. It would be a scarry would, with some of the stuff found in the OT. But anyways, like ya said, not the right group to talk about this kind of thing. So back to anime. XD

 

[darketernal]

nothing i hate absolutely nothing about anime, all anime is good even crappy anime

 

[Koryu]

Now THATS a devoted fan!! lol!!

nothing i hate absolutely nothing about anime, all anime is good even crappy anime

 

[SAint Mark]

So back to anime. XD

Finally!


Can't remember who posted this but I thought many parts of the animation in the latest Naruto ep sucked too... This isn't the only series where such sloppiness is shown. Hate it when that happens.

 

[shinpai_ga_nai]

Transformation sequences in anime are awful. Somehow each character has 5 minutes to transform and the monseter doesn't attack. Whether it is something like Sailor Moon or where robots change forms they still seem to have time freeze while they change. The monsters could've killed them by the time they are done... -_-

Also a lot of dubbing jobs are awful on anime. Or companies edit out so much from the shows that it is almost unrecognizable...

 

[MissFirerose]

The monsters could've killed them by the time they are done... -_-

Also a lot of dubbing jobs are awful on anime. Or companies edit out so much from the shows that it is almost unrecognizable...

I've always wondered about that. Like in BSSM, the youma sit there for like 10 minutes... patiently waiting for the senshi to finish transforming... why not just off them while they still are powerless?? Eh.. cause then the show would be over I suppose..

BSSM is the epitome of bad dubbing. The sheer horror of it takes dubs to a whole new dimension of sucking. And besides for the horrible voice jobs, what really got to me was the gender bending and the implication of incest between Haruka and Michiru. (For sanity's sake, if you're going to make them cousins, take out the darn "ooh ooh oooooh" romantic music. It really screws with people's heads.)

Okay.. done with ranting.