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What do we do to prevent another Las Vegas?

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Interesting theology.
What is so interesting about that statement. When Jesus clearly told us to be gentle as doves, but wise as snakes and instructed His followers to sell a cloak to buy a sword if they did not have one? Moreover, what is so interesting about it when clearly Jesus instructed that we care for people who cannot care for themselves ( which, by the way would include protection.
 
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Adding amendments are hard for a good reason.
Although. I will give such people that in the past an amendment was repealed less than 20 years after it was created.
 
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As for the mentally ill one could argue that a large part of it is for their own safety; even so there are other ways to defend yourself, but you still do not bring a knife to a gun fight.

The problem is who is going to be determining what/who is/isn't mental issues/ill? If it's like everything else Government does it will be by people who already have issues declaring sane people are the ones with issues...
 
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I can own a gun that does not mean I life by the sword.

LOL. This is a funny conversation.

Living by it is using it basically just to use it via using it for defense. It is like I will not start a fight, but I will not allow myself to be pushed around either.

"But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also."

Oh, wait, I'm sure Jesus didn't mean that either!

The people who start the fights live by the sword the ones who use it only as defense do not.

And ironically when Jesus said to put up again thy sword it was because someone was attempting to protect something they found valuable (Jesus himself).

The Bible sure is funny how many times it says things but clearly doesn't mean it should apply in any way.

LOL.
 
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Help get people back to God, or to find Him if they've never met Him!

This type of activity has been brought on by evil... and we believers have allowed it in the name of "tolerance"... whether allowing the hate messages in songs, games, movies or what.

These assailants have broken every law applicable to their actions, so adding more laws are going to matter to them. We also need to counter the anti-America rhetoric going on in this country.... I think begun by George Soros (and funded by him as well) and has brainwashed the black Americans and is using them to channel his hatred for America... while they think their cause is just, some of the organizations they support are really anti-black!

More people die from suicide than killing by others in these massacres, and look at all those murdered YEARLY in Chicago alone (where a NO guns allowed law exists!)

Prayer and not reacting with emotional responses, not listening to the anti GOD verbiage of the leftists (whomever they are masquerading as)!
 
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I don't think it is possible to prevent all violent actions and so each person much live the life of Christ as much as possible. the good people should be close to each other and everyone should try to get along with others as much as possible. most people have a crude and unrefined morality and this needs to change.

there should only be laws that have real meaning such as "don't steal" so that cops can focus on what matters. no one should be oppressed by society if at all possible which means that the laws that make businesses profit should become invalid because the more oppression people have upon them the more they are likely to create alternative dominance hierarchies and function in them. less laws means less restrictions on a persons freedom which leads to more ways to make it in a proper way in the world.
 
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"But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also."

Oh, wait, I'm sure Jesus didn't mean that either!

A smite on the cheek is a bit different from someone trying to rape you, or shoot you, or plunge a knife into your chest or slice your throat open.
 
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A smite on the cheek is a bit different from someone trying to rape you, or shoot you, or plunge a knife into your chest or slice your throat open.

It's like there is no end to the exegeses that negate Christ's words!

It is a modern miracle! Soon we will find out Jesus didn't mean ANYTHING! LOL.

(Sorry state of affairs when the atheist finds more meaning in Christ's words than the Christians!)^_^
 
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Help get people back to God, or to find Him if they've never met Him!

This type of activity has been brought on by evil... and we believers have allowed it in the name of "tolerance"... whether allowing the hate messages in songs, games, movies or what.


And don't forget the large number of Evangelical Christians who have put their support behind candidates who are bought and paid for by the GUN LOBBY.


More people die from suicide than killing by others in these massacres, and look at all those murdered YEARLY in Chicago alone (where a NO guns allowed law exists!)

And a gun in the home is more likely to be used to hurt someone in the family or used for suicide than it will be used to "protect one's self".

Prayer and not reacting with emotional responses, not listening to the anti GOD verbiage of the leftists (whomever they are masquerading as)!

Remember some of us on the Left are the only ones who are willing to openly quote Jesus when it comes to guns. "Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."
 
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It's like there is no end to the exegeses that negate Christ's words!

It is a modern miracle! Soon we will find out Jesus didn't mean ANYTHING! LOL.

(Sorry state of affairs when the atheist finds more meaning in Christ's words than the Christians!)^_^

Don't confuse "finds more meaning" with "didn't understand them in the first place". Be willing to learn if you don't understand. That's what we're here for.
 
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You can't prevent it, you can only reduce the chances of it happening. Which in this case, a better public health system or more specifically mental health system.

You may not be able to prevent, but you can reduce the number of deaths and likelihood of these events happening.

For some, the solution if for everyone to be armed.

For others, it is to reduce the number of military grade weapons on the streets. Automatic weapons are illegal. If they were more available, more would die. We can make the conversion kits illegal. We can also make assault weapons illegal. Finally, we can have guns registered and in a national data base.

IMHO, the best way to find out what would reduce the number of deaths and injured is to ask law enforcement professionals and follow their advice.
 
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You may not be able to prevent, but you can reduce the number of deaths and likelihood of these events happening.

For some, the solution if for everyone to be armed.

For others, it is to reduce the number of military grade weapons on the streets. Automatic weapons are illegal. If they were more available, more would die. We can make the conversion kits illegal. We can also make assault weapons illegal. Finally, we can have guns registered and in a national data base.

IMHO, the best way to find out what would reduce the number of deaths and injured is to ask law enforcement professionals and follow their advice.
The trouble is making it illegal only stops those who have no intention to harm anyway.
 
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You may not be able to prevent, but you can reduce the number of deaths and likelihood of these events happening.

For some, the solution if for everyone to be armed.

For others, it is to reduce the number of military grade weapons on the streets. Automatic weapons are illegal. If they were more available, more would die. We can make the conversion kits illegal. We can also make assault weapons illegal. Finally, we can have guns registered and in a national data base.

IMHO, the best way to find out what would reduce the number of deaths and injured is to ask law enforcement professionals and follow their advice.
How about asking law enforcement professionals from countries that don't have regular mass shootings?
 
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You may not be able to prevent, but you can reduce the number of deaths and likelihood of these events happening.

For some, the solution if for everyone to be armed.

For others, it is to reduce the number of military grade weapons on the streets. Automatic weapons are illegal. If they were more available, more would die. We can make the conversion kits illegal. We can also make assault weapons illegal. Finally, we can have guns registered and in a national data base.

IMHO, the best way to find out what would reduce the number of deaths and injured is to ask law enforcement professionals and follow their advice.

That's been done. Most of them have no problem with people being armed. Many in law enforcement have been saved by ordinary folks who were armed and were able to intervene when a cop was being attacked.
 
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