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What did it all started with?

Discussion in 'Physical & Life Sciences' started by alexanderfrank1985, Apr 29, 2021.

  1. SLP

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  2. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET BELIEVE IN MIRACLES Supporter

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    ID is not Creationism.
     
  3. SLP

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    Sure it is.
    It is just cloaked (not very competently) to make it look like it isn't:

    Creation Biology (1983), p. 3-34: “Evolutionists think the former is correct; creationists because of all the evidence discussed in this book, conclude the latter is correct.”

    Biology and Creation (1986), p. 3-33: “Evolutionists think the former is correct, creationists accept the latter view.”

    Biology and Origins (1987), p. 3-38: “Evolutionists think the former is correct, creationists accept the latter view.”

    Of Pandas and People (1987, creationist version), p. 3-40: “Evolutionists think the former is correct, creationists accept the latter view.”

    Of Pandas and People (1987, “intelligent design” version), p. 3-41: “Evolutionists think the former is correct, cdesign proponentsists accept the latter view.”​

    If these people thought doing a 'search and replace' was all it took to make a creation text an ID text, then ID is creationism.
     
  4. SLP

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    You were trotting Piltdown out 2 years ago - nothing new in 2 years? The same hackneyed, tired, irrelevant quips when in a jam?
    Sad.
     
  5. SLP

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    Name 10.
     
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  6. SLP

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    Yes yes, you claimed a while ago that:

    "The machine code of the genes is uncannily computerlike. Apart from differences in jargon, the pages of a molecular-biology journal might be interchanged with those of a computer-engineering journal"

    Yet when I provided such a paper for you to demonstrate this, you... sort of went away...

    For those wondering what "macroevolution" actually is...
     
  7. AV1611VET

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    ID is Satan's cheap imitation for Creationism.

    So you would expect it to be manipulated, as the rest of your post demonstrates.

    That "cdesign proponentsists" fiasco is they getting just what they deserved.
     
  8. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET BELIEVE IN MIRACLES Supporter

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    Bo Derek
     
  9. SLP

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    And premised on just as much evidence as what you premise yours on.
     
  10. SLP

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    What is your evidence that Satan is a thing?

    By the way - I am remembering now why I had you on ignore for so long, so try not to be so tedious? Thx
     
  11. AV1611VET

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    Why don't you just do us both a favor and put me back on ignore? Thx
     
  12. SLP

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    For someone so devoted to empirical science and following the evidence to wherever it leads (as you imply), you sure are quick to abandon that framework when your Faith articles are in question. Instead of following the evidence, you - in a heart beat - employ logical fallacies like begging the question. Not impressive.
    Placing yourself in that group, eh? Interesting.
    Times change. Religions no longer have the stranglehold on society that they did in their times - at least among the successful scientists of today. I suspect that had Planck been born 100 years later, and been such a skeptic of atheism as you claim, he would rank right up there with Jon Sarfati and Jon Wells....
    Odd that the evidence did not point them to a literal bible. In fact, Planck once wrote:

    "...the faith in miracles must yield, step by step, before the steady and firm advance of the facts of science, and its total defeat is undoubtedly a matter of time."
     
  13. SLP

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    Will do - and thanks for your unwitting admission that all you can provide are assertions and bible stories.
    So long!
     
  14. renniks

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    It's a known norm, so yes, in that sense it's a law. Not like a traffic law.
     
  15. renniks

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    The divine proportion
    The petals of flowers -mostly- have perfect symmetry, similar to others in the nature as the shell of a snail, mineral crystals and even our galaxy.

    At this symmetry it is called “divine proportion”, “golden ratio” or “golden number”. It is a recurring number in some patterns of nature and we can not believe it’s a fad or a fluke.

    The Fibonacci spiral occurs in organisms from tiny to well, the entire galaxy.

    And people will say " isn't nature amazing!". No, God is amazing for creating nature.
     
  16. Ophiolite

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    In time you will forget again and remove the Ignore. I don't know whether it is age or optimism, but it seems to happen to many right thinking people. :)
     
  17. SLP

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    Some people will say - that is a myth. And they'd be correct.
     
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