What did it all started with?

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God created me in my mother's womb.
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ID is not Creationism.
Sure it is.
It is just cloaked (not very competently) to make it look like it isn't:

Creation Biology (1983), p. 3-34: “Evolutionists think the former is correct; creationists because of all the evidence discussed in this book, conclude the latter is correct.”

Biology and Creation (1986), p. 3-33: “Evolutionists think the former is correct, creationists accept the latter view.”

Biology and Origins (1987), p. 3-38: “Evolutionists think the former is correct, creationists accept the latter view.”

Of Pandas and People (1987, creationist version), p. 3-40: “Evolutionists think the former is correct, creationists accept the latter view.”

Of Pandas and People (1987, “intelligent design” version), p. 3-41: “Evolutionists think the former is correct, cdesign proponentsists accept the latter view.”​

If these people thought doing a 'search and replace' was all it took to make a creation text an ID text, then ID is creationism.
 
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Dawkins again remarks on how 'uncannily similar' the machine code of DNA is to our own digital information systems. This did not cause our invention of digital information- but it helps us understand not just biological mechanisms, but how to advance our own information technology.

You can only put so much down to coincidence, at some point, when the die keeps rolling a 6, you have to suspect it is loaded, however profound the implications of that may be.
Yes yes, you claimed a while ago that:

"The machine code of the genes is uncannily computerlike. Apart from differences in jargon, the pages of a molecular-biology journal might be interchanged with those of a computer-engineering journal"

Yet when I provided such a paper for you to demonstrate this, you... sort of went away...

For those wondering what "macroevolution" actually is...
 
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Sure it is.
ID is Satan's cheap imitation for Creationism.

So you would expect it to be manipulated, as the rest of your post demonstrates.

That "cdesign proponentsists" fiasco is they getting just what they deserved.
 
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And premised on just as much evidence as what you premise yours on.

What is your evidence that Satan is a thing?

By the way - I am remembering now why I had you on ignore for so long, so try not to be so tedious? Thx
Why don't you just do us both a favor and put me back on ignore? Thx
 
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Nature is the executor of God's laws as Galileo said.
For someone so devoted to empirical science and following the evidence to wherever it leads (as you imply), you sure are quick to abandon that framework when your Faith articles are in question. Instead of following the evidence, you - in a heart beat - employ logical fallacies like begging the question. Not impressive.
Along with Lemaitre and Planck, I do not think it is a coincidence either,
Placing yourself in that group, eh? Interesting.
that some of the greatest scientific breakthroughs came from noted skeptics of atheism.
Times change. Religions no longer have the stranglehold on society that they did in their times - at least among the successful scientists of today. I suspect that had Planck been born 100 years later, and been such a skeptic of atheism as you claim, he would rank right up there with Jon Sarfati and Jon Wells....
They were not restricted by such arbitrary tenets of materialism as you cite, but free to follow the evidence wherever it pointed
Odd that the evidence did not point them to a literal bible. In fact, Planck once wrote:

"...the faith in miracles must yield, step by step, before the steady and firm advance of the facts of science, and its total defeat is undoubtedly a matter of time."
 
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That is not what a scientific law is. A scientific law is a description of a phenomenon that has no as yet identified exceptions.
Do you actually think that a scientific law is like a, well, law? THAT is funny.
It's a known norm, so yes, in that sense it's a law. Not like a traffic law.
 
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Which rules are those?
Be specific and use examples, please.
The divine proportion
The petals of flowers -mostly- have perfect symmetry, similar to others in the nature as the shell of a snail, mineral crystals and even our galaxy.

At this symmetry it is called “divine proportion”, “golden ratio” or “golden number”. It is a recurring number in some patterns of nature and we can not believe it’s a fad or a fluke.

The Fibonacci spiral occurs in organisms from tiny to well, the entire galaxy.

And people will say " isn't nature amazing!". No, God is amazing for creating nature.
 
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Will do - and thanks for your unwitting admission that all you can provide are assertions and bible stories.
So long!
In time you will forget again and remove the Ignore. I don't know whether it is age or optimism, but it seems to happen to many right thinking people. :)
 
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The divine proportion
The petals of flowers -mostly- have perfect symmetry, similar to others in the nature as the shell of a snail, mineral crystals and even our galaxy.

At this symmetry it is called “divine proportion”, “golden ratio” or “golden number”. It is a recurring number in some patterns of nature and we can not believe it’s a fad or a fluke.

The Fibonacci spiral occurs in organisms from tiny to well, the entire galaxy.

And people will say " isn't nature amazing!". No, God is amazing for creating nature.
Some people will say - that is a myth. And they'd be correct.
 
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I would suggest that you could be even more confident that the coin is just biased. If it was a fair coin, you'd be exceptionally fortunate, and if it was a magic coin, you'd be in a different universe... ;)

Perhaps it is a two-headed coin.
 
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its kinda strange really, it needed some sort of an intelligence to know theres air out there and to use it to carry things out of your body, but how could it know there was air, it sort of must have startet with some sort of an intelligence that wasnt really life yet but somehow knew everything still, perhaps it was just the thing that we`re all made up from, energy, some say it`s a little like something living, what do you think?
it is factinating the elements that is air we breathe
nitrogen, oxygen, argon, carbon dioxide, neon, helium, krypton, hydrogen, and xenon.
 
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