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What are the best things to do in order to be content being alone?

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Well fact you fell in love with somebody (you didn't think you would) means that was legit love.

He brought VALUE into your life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well I am buidling - look this is going to be going on for at LEAST a year of me building (and tbh even when/if I find that spouse I WILL STILL BE BUILDING DOESN'T END THERE).

I didn't know what I wanted until he walked into my life ... and I didn't recognize it right away either. I had a general idea and he wasn't what I was expecting to fall in love with...but I did.

It took a number of years to realize that I couldn't see him not in my life and I married him. We had a good run of it for 16+ years until the sneaked back in and won. The end years were even better than the early years so I guess we figured things out. And I was right, it is hard to live without him but at least I got him for a while and have a piece of him in our children.

Don't over think it. Just work on becoming the best husband material so when you do meet her, you are ready to wear the boots.
 
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YAY SUMMER HOLIDAYS BEGINS! 6 WEEKS! #HEAVEN! Can use this time for myself and Christ building!

Sweet! Enjoy the time off. Do you have anything planned?

Right okay cos you are a business lady very busy with that you can't fully devote to that man all the time I get you!

God requires different things from us each. For some, that’s marriage and children. But that isn’t the case for me. He didn’t bring me home to relax and lead a leisurely life. There was a greater purpose for it and I’m walking it out.

As you’ve mentioned, you want some who supports your goals and is willing to help you achieve God’s desire for you. Not impede them or resent their existence.

I can have a beautiful life with someone who accepts He didn’t call me to a seat or to the shadows. And we could accomplish great things for the kingdom. But that can only happen if He’s doing the same and focused on the mission he’s been given. Synergy is a must.

I don't have any children (not in 30s though) am I a fit? ^_^ LOL ^_^ HAHA ^_^ but I get you!!!

LOL. I’m not a cougar!

Well it is important to develop what you want in a woman - the issue is we as men (and women) we desire things in a spouse WE OURSELVES are not looking to build in ourselves!

Preach!!! Change begins at home. When you go under the hood and start peeling the layers back on your junk and clean house. You don’t see things the same way. You don’t look at yourself or others the same way either.

This is where true self-respect and regard are formed. You make better decisions because they’re not guided by the things you’re trying to escape or the masks you’ve worn. You face them head on.

How can I want a Godly woman when I am not working or on track with that to share that with her? We have to be sensible! But for sure important to recognise that in the person first so you can narrow down your search! I get you!

Exactly. But the recognition isn’t to form a template. It’s for you to realize how you visualize those traits in someone else.

Godliness to you may mean modest clothing and a quiet disposition. The next person envisions someone outgoing who serves in the church unselfishly.

You’re not pigeonholing. You’re discovering the attributes that resonate with you. You may come to the realization you desire a companion with a heart for service. And you want someone who shares that interest.

But on the same note, if you feel differently, you may struggle with someone who desires that from her partner. Unless you compromise.

Miss Bella I can't lie there would have been times I would have participated in sexual immortality of SOME SORT by now - and even though I have had 'urges' I have been silent - so I know I am developing in that sense! I KNOW I AM!

That’s wonderful to hear. The Lord honors your self-control. Keeping your eyes on Him during this season will help contain the urges.

One day in the near future everything you’re experiencing will look different. The strain will become part of your witness and not your reality.

Sometimes its not the trial that matters. But how we handle ourselves through it. Keep walking. :)
 
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Okay a lot written (and I am grateful for that!) and I will have a lot to respond too!

1. Yes my conscious knows best
2. I have not had relationships with women much at all - my past with women is limited I have only had one/two serious relationships in my life with women. If anything my history with women is limited as I have been alone to my own devices (sinful ones but own devices none the less).
3. As believers keeping the commandments is key - again look I am not there - I am in process - I know church alone is not going to 'save' me - but I have to start somewhere - right?
4. There is a reason why some faiths have separates sexes worshipping rather as one - but we have self control and I saw my error - same time we are human - if two Christian met in a church and got married is that bad cos they were interested in each other at church? Course not - but again cos my situation is fragile atm so thing are a lil bleah! BUT YES GATHERING AT CHURCH IS HOLY ACTIVITY I AGREE 100%!!!!!!!
5. My family is loving - this is my struggle - due to my poor decision and the fact that Satan put something in my face (where my soul knew it was wrong) but I was tempted in by wrong thing - it was not a holy union. And I see that (truth is during it I knew but wanted to continue).
6. I am not saying marriage is the ultimate - cos I could find in a few years I AM GOOD and I am am truly CONTENT alone with God walking - but I think I will always wish for that Godly lady in future - but I have to work on me (this is a project).
7. Dating is just that - to get DATA (information about her) nothing more or less - now with my new way of seeing things - it is far from about trying to get other things - you are right you speak to their family (mother and father) to get that permission to marry (if you are both you and her a evenly yoked or as good as).
8. Yes women can be seen as idols hence idolatry when why I say I need gear change - but balance too - treat all equal.

I will continue to follow more on your points. But fact is being lead by your lowerself will lead you to SAVAGE problems - and I know I am not like that as I was once upon a time!

As Miss Ribbon user said being Christ like is a life long thing. Baptism I speak about it cos in scripture it says being reborn again is a must to enter into the kingdom of God and taking on such a thing for me is my way or honouring him and turning a new leaf - and being that new Godly person.

Not easy - but how I see it.

Like I said - Bible is clear - being saved means keeping the commandments - issue is has humans we are flawed - but for the grace of Christ!

How did you end up in the situation I was in out of interest?

Your conscience is right.

Firstly, the Lord said, "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself." (Lk. 10:27)

The Royal Law directs believers primarily to God first and foremost, then secondarily to others. - You've got it backwards, and tangled topics together, as if church / baptism / asceticism / abstinence / marriage somehow will save you.

Here I'll interject that you probably have dysfunctional relationships with women in your life, in family life, and in general. Because Scriptural people treat others as they do family, "The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity." (1 Tim. 5:2) -- Family is where children first learn how to treat others, mimicking parents, then practicing sharing etc amongst siblings.

Secondly, your issue is about Religiosity & Ritualism vs Loving the Lord thy God. - Too pre-occupied with 'Baptism', religious church attendance, etc.

Many equate church attendance with a religious experience, both being treated as a kind of 'ultimate experience' one day per week, being 'closer with Christ' as you say, but Scripture doesn't speak this way. Per God's design, religious attendance comes last. Closeness to Christ comes by living per God's law in the Torah, 'If you love me keep my commandments' (Jn. 14:15), the same commandements that Christ and his disciples kept (similar in essence for Gentiles) - Over emphasis on physical public attendance is actually what Christ criticised of those who prayed visibly on street corners, etc.

E.g. The annual day of atonement (or Yom Kippur for Jews) per Leviticus 16, or the formal sit-down 'Lord's Supper' (Feast of Unleavened Bread) were annual events. Both being critical behind Christ's death and sacrifice. - Only by understanding this can you'll really understand Christ's work, otherwise, you're not really a believer… harsh I know but it's simply because many things need to occur before and leading up to a formal event. I suppose, like having to pass school exams before graduation or actually having the parents blessing and woman's agreement before the marriage ceremony.

In Scripture, weekly gathering is done per Sabbath law, a throwback to God's creation order, and God's design, plan, etc, and again, it's not about attendance per se, but about "rest" (from works during the working week) and "holiness" (symbolic separation from the world) and to do God's work per his commandments (taking part in God's work per se). See Exodus 35, Bible Gateway passage: Exodus 35 - King James Version.

Thus, the 'Church' concepts you're familiar with are probably more accurately 'Gentile Church' phenomena and rituals which aren't necessarily legitimate or mandated in Scripture. Much is to do with teaching from Baptistic groups and Evangelical groups. - Another big topic. Read Church History for details, e.g. Phillip Schaff.

Now, about male-female relations, fraternisation is a problem at most evangelical churches is gender mixing, blurring the line between men's roles and women's roles, marriage, leadership and subordination, male and female ministers, deacons, leaders, etc. Sexual scandals happen like this, often, a rampant problem… It often starts at puberty in (co-ed) 'Youth Groups', parties, and 'Church Camps' sleeping in dorms unsupervised, all being para-church activities, competing with the main congregation (which should be the one and only). These routines and habits worsen with time. None of this would have occurred in the Early Church where everyone was together in one room, listening to Scripture being read, all together.

Hence, if one understands that gatherings with believers is a holy activity, one will understand the dishonour for men to be mingling too closely with women in a public and holy setting, and vice versa for women.

Quote: "And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." (1 Cor. 14:35)

Thus, Paul says, "Marriage is honourable in all" (Heb. 13:4) - Meaning that for you, your feelings and situation, anxiety / temptation / frustration is somewhat normal but it perhaps speaks more about your family / community situation (or lack of) hence a deeper sense of deficit and dis-ordered love. But of course, remember that not every body gets married. During WW2 many young ladies lost their husbands and held out for the remainder of their life, never re-marrying, unable to find a replacement, also unwilling to replace their original loved one.

Now, I'm not a Baptist (and I disagree with baptist theology) but Paul Washer has a bunch of sermons on this area, about 'dating', sexual infidelity, sexual immorality, etc. His main thesis being that one is not just dealing with 'a woman' but a daughter of God… Hence, 'dating' is an illegitimate and dishonourable way to have a 'relationship' with a woman. You can talk to her, socially, professionally, in a light way, but the proper way is to ask permission from her Father, and typically in our culture that means getting married.

Paul quoting Genesis: "For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh." (Eph. 5:31) -- This is all one step in the Biblical pov.

Interestingly, "Adam knew (יָדַע , yada) Eve his wife; and she conceived" (Gen. 4:1) and "Cain knew (יָדַע , yada) his wife; and she conceived" (Gen 4:17) -- Yada in Hebrew means to 'know' someone, whether superficially or deeply. It's usage signifies that to really 'know' a woman has direct implications (at least assumed implications) of marriage, eloption, and conception.

This of course relates to human suffering, loneliness, sadness, emptiness etc, but a believer will find this completely in Christ, spiritually in the present (a taste of the future), and fully manifest at the Lord's return (post-resurrection, see Rev 20), being with the Messiah 'in paradise'. -- Except in paradise there is no marriage, no crying, no pain, no suffering…

"For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven." (Mt. 22:30)

While God originally established and ordained marriage, having said, "It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him." (Gen. 2:18), creating women / family / society, we mustn't get too hung up on a "love interest" or the hope of marriage because God's creation of 'women' was for a "help meet for him"… That's what Scripture says... i.e. Women are a social benefit, as mothers, sisters, aunts, and other ladies in society, being all part of one's extended family.

Of course all humans are orphans separated from our Father in Heaven, so we all sense loneliness, sadness, etc, but this doesn't necessarily relate to an unhealthy fixation or idolatry of women. - Friendship, admiration, respect, etc, is not necessarily commitment.

Women are of course beautiful, but they're often figures of idolatry also, archetypal idols. It happens in the West and in the Far East (in China) too.

See Cult of Diana Diana (mythology) - Wikipedia and it's relationship to cult of Princess Diana, and other female pop icons. - Hence pre-occupation and obsession with having "My ULTIMATE goal in life is to be married" -- This is a troubling statement: Why not 'loving' a woman and serving her, her children, her family etc, and instead 'married'. Maybe you're obsessed with marriage as a categorical thing, or a status thing, less about the woman herself as a person, and less about love itself as a practice ? Food for thought.

Quote: "Perversions of the flesh either accompany or follow idolatry. The children of Israel participated in such abominations after arriving at Mount Sinai. ...Later, the idolatrous ceremonies that accompanied the worship of foreign gods in ancient Israel, particularly the worship of Baal and Astarte, commonly involved lewd and sexually explicit behavior. Around the time of Paul, Corinth was known worldwide for the Temple of Diana and its sacred prostitutes. Young, virgin, Corinthian girls were required to serve for a time in the temples as prostitutes before they could marry." (Prostitution, Ritual (Forerunner Commentary))

A carnal man's only hope is temporal, limited to this life, destined for damnation A believer's hope is eternal, not limited to this life, destined for life everlasting, at the Lord's return…

If you understand this but struggle to contain yourself (self-control being a fruit of the HS), marriage may be your only option.

"Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband."

Now about 'love' itself, there are different types of love, romantic, brotherly, charity, philanthropy, etc. However in either case, they are kinda are the same in that each requires aspects of 1 Corinthians 13, patience, kindness, self-sacrifice, etc.

Love is at odds with adultery / murder / theft / false-witness / covet, etc.

Romans 13 says,

"Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law."
(Rom. 13:8-10)

Hence the Lord said, "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." (John 15:13) -- This is what each believer should aspire to, How replicate this in our lives, study, work, family, community, nation, etc. How to bring glory and honour to God's name.

See School of Life, 'How you can love anybody'. These videos will help wrap your head around it.



Now, about priorities, believers don't "seek God" per se, they seek 'the kingdom of God and his righteousness'.

The definition of righteousness is found in the Torah (Pentateuch), unfolding in Scripture overall: "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." (Matthew 6:33)



OK, while being "content alone" is useful at times, remember that the universal church is a 'community of believers'. The above quotes and concepts would be inapplicable to someone truly alone. e.g. true hermits and ascetics tried to accomplish what you're saying in the past, controversially. See early desert fathers (monks) like Simon Stylites who lived for 37 years on a 'pillar' or small platform. Simeon Stylites - Wikipedia

Contentment for believers is in the basics of food, clothing, and shelter: "Having food and raiment let us be therewith content." (1 Timothy 6:8)

Most people on the internet however live in a very wealthy and materialistic parts of the world, where true perspective is often jaded by stuff, status, social acceptance, etc. And many Christians both in history and nowadays, live arguably truer lives as Christians in every regard and more likely to be accepted by Christ, live in poverty, as victims of persecution, corruption, and the wealth of the West (by way of globalised market pricing, serving rich nations), unable to 'make' a living. And more and more so this affects the West itself with many being in extreme debt (i.e. negative wealth) etc. Anyway, I digress.
 
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Years ago, my mentor told me something I never forgot. She said, a man believes himself to be something he’s not. He meets a woman and tells her the same. She believes him and validates him and thus he becomes. ...He never changed. She validated a lie. ...I’m incapable of following a man who is unable to lead.

"Bread of deceit is sweet to a man; but afterwards his mouth shall be filled with gravel." (Proverbs 20:17)

This is appallingly unbiblical advice...

Firstly, it's breach of the 9th commandment: "Thou shalt not bear false witness..."

Secondly, it's fraud and 1 Corinthians 6 is explicitly against defrauding others and taking civil action.

It's misrepresentation of self, identity theft. Like Jacob posing as Esau to defraud him of his birth right...

Thirdly, the man is delusional, and the woman is as delusional. - Remembering that the Serpent tempted Eve first, and she took the fruit and sinned before Adam. Adam fell when he took the fruit that Eve passed him, he mis-trusted Eve.

Fourthly, @LaBèlla, you would be condemning such a man and following his 'leadership' into the Lake of Fire.

"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." (Rev. 21:8)

The Devil and his Children are liars...

"Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." (John 8:44)
 
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1. Plans are: hands on at the church (you know) - be more interactive in public (as you know by showing Christ etc) - learn more in God's word and looking after me (gym etc etc etc). That is it.

2. Well good you embrace your greater purpose!

3. YES somebody that SUPPORTS my goals towards God not impede it EXACTLY!!!!!!

4. I think it is about not being naive and seeing what is in front of you. You see you have skills and a greater cause an that is beautiful!

5. HAHA *cougar* truth is when I am in form a cougar is tamed under me HAHA no word of a lie! But I love all! :)

6. YES CHANGE BEGINS AT HOME! AND NO WOMAN CAN CHANGE ME - I WANT THAT GODLY WOMAN BUT I HAVE TO BUILD THAT SIDE OF ME TOO!!!!!!!

7. So as hard as things has been - I put a mirror on me *I WANT A GODLY WOMAN* okay well Mr Daniel are you a Godly person? eeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmm (exactly) I am going through the press - but not where I want to be but in process - however as I said if two can grow to Christ different! But you get what I meant!

8. What Godliness means to one might not be same for other exactly that is why you need to still get DATA from a person via DATING just to find out if you fit - before serious COURTING PROCEDURE COMES INTO PLAY!

9. Yeah the urges I mean tbh what comes to mind for me is *CHILDISH WAYS TO FULFILL THEM* cos at the end I dont feel happy after fulfilment and I am still in my same rotten position just for a small bit of pleasure kick - I need something long lasting than that that is LOVING AND HOLY!

10. YEah keep walking all we can do.

11. Time for the gym and to work on my FEARFULLY AND WONDERFULLY made body ^_^ ciao

Sweet! Enjoy the time off. Do you have anything planned?



God requires different things from us each. For some, that’s marriage and children. But that isn’t the case for me. He didn’t bring me home to relax and lead a leisurely life. There was a greater purpose for it and I’m walking it out.

As you’ve mentioned, you want some who supports your goals and is willing to help you achieve God’s desire for you. Not impede them or resent their existence.

I can have a beautiful life with someone who accepts He didn’t call me to a seat or to the shadows. And we could accomplish great things for the kingdom. But that can only happen if He’s doing the same and focused on the mission he’s been given. Synergy is a must.



LOL. I’m not a cougar!



Preach!!! Change begins at home. When you go under the hood and start peeling the layers back on your junk and clean house. You don’t see things the same way. You don’t look at yourself or others the same way either.

This is where true self-respect and regard are formed. You make better decisions because they’re not guided by the things you’re trying to escape or the masks you’ve worn. You face them head on.



Exactly. But the recognition isn’t to form a template. It’s for you to realize how you visualize those traits in someone else.

Godliness to you may mean modest clothing and a quiet disposition. The next person envisions someone outgoing who serves in the church unselfishly.

You’re not pigeonholing. You’re discovering the attributes that resonate with you. You may come to the realization you desire a companion with a heart for service. And you want someone who shares that interest.

But on the same note, if you feel differently, you may struggle with someone who desires that from her partner. Unless you compromise.



That’s wonderful to hear. The Lord honors your self-control. Keeping your eyes on Him during this season will help contain the urges.

One day in the near future everything you’re experiencing will look different. The strain will become part of your witness and not your reality.

Sometimes its not the trial that matters. But how we handle ourselves through it. Keep walking. :)
 
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This is appallingly unbiblical advice...

I am a loss regarding your reply. The remark was not in approval of that behavior. It was the opposite. The lesson was about the danger of validating untruths and the impact it has on each.

I’m uncertain how you reached the conclusions you’ve drawn. They’re wholly unrelated to what I’ve stated.
 
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The remark was not in approval of that behavior. It was the opposite. The lesson was about the danger of validating untruths and the impact it has on each.

Dis-approval ? - My apologies, the phrasing suggested otherwise. I see now. It was a warning against delusional deceit from both sides.
 
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1. Plans are: hands on at the church (you know) - be more interactive in public (as you know by showing Christ etc) - learn more in God's word and looking after me (gym etc etc etc). That is it.

It sounds like the next 6 weeks will be good. Keep me posted. I look forward to seeing what He does. :)

I think it is about not being naive and seeing what is in front of you. You see you have skills and a greater cause an that is beautiful!

At times that can be difficult to face. But don’t forsake the truths you’ve been shown. Have you read through Proverbs?

HAHA *cougar* truth is when I am in form a cougar is tamed under me HAHA no word of a lie! But I love all! :)

Tamed? ~laughs

Don’t get me wrong. If someone wants to move on either side. Have at it. But I don’t date older men or rob cradles either. I have a sweet spot. ~lol

I am going through the press - but not where I want to be but in process - however as I said if two can grow to Christ different! But you get what I meant!

As long as you’re willing to face the music; good things can happen.

What Godliness means to one might not be same for other exactly that is why you need to still get DATA from a person via DATING just to find out if you fit - before serious COURTING PROCEDURE COMES INTO PLAY!

I’m not diving in until I know the condition of the water I’m stepping into.

I need something long lasting than that that is LOVING AND HOLY!

Now you’re talking. ;-)

Time for the gym and to work on my FEARFULLY AND WONDERFULLY made body ^_^ ciao

~laughing Have fun!
 
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1. Yes I will certainly keep you updated during my 6 weeks! Church on Sunday! Looking forward to beginning my HANDS ON WORK! Really excited about it! I just wanna give out! Ya know what I mean? So I am really excited about that! Now that I don't have to worry about going back to school for 6 weeks my mind will be on that!

2. I have not read through the book of Proverbs but I have seen beautiful verses that are full of wonderful knowledge and wisdom that are so useful to life! *A FEAR OF GOD IS THE BEGINNING OF WISDOM* that is in Proverbs I am sure - yes all wisdom coming from the author King Solomon a man that wished for wisdom (though he was not so wise when it came to being with women lol) :) Anyway is there something specific in there that relates to something?

3. Okay - maybe i wouldn't be able to tame you - you're a very strong Godly woman - I know my role - I am an amateur in this rhelm so far! But, I will be getting there make no mistake!!!!!!!

4. HAHA hey! I am not some cradle infant! Make no mistake! In my opinion, any age can be a *SWEET SPOT* if that spirit of you to link and it is holy ya know? Cos as that Miss Ribbon user said she never fort she'd ever love her late husband but it is about the spirit! Of course people will have preference - I mean my PREFERENCE would be a woman that is 25-35 approx but life is SO BIZARRE!!!!!!!!!!!! You really don't know how things work out - and that is what makes life scary but I guess exciting (depending on how you look at it!) There was a time I was very scared about my future after the break up thing cos i was thinking *WILL I FIND ANYBODY AGAIN?* - *AM I GOOD ENOUGH?* (especially when you have been rejected for somebody else you really question yourself in ALL AREAS - not nice or cool). Had to have a different out look an look to Christ - something bigger.

5. But you know Miss Bella I have been facing all different types of music over the last 4 weeks(!) But, takes a man to admit he is not where he wants to be. An this goes to the whole thing of when I said a man should have his house in order before woman - not just in terms of even money as such but with Christ - need to be strong. Cos from I do seek him first then all the other rewards will be that much sweeter. But look again journey! Rome was not built in a day.

6. But trust me (you will know this you ain't stupid) but people's version of Godliness can be so different - even my previous things I would say to her (that is Bible backed) she would say *no not MY God* well that is a problem right there - cos people want a God that they feel comfortable with - one that they can put in their top pocket - one that allowed them to have sex with whatever they like - what that allows them to be free with 0 consequences - one that allows them to be a homosexual - one that gives a blind eye to his name being used in an unholy way etc etc etc you get the idea - these things man seriously important. Bible makes it clear how we can avoid all this crap.

It sounds like the next 6 weeks will be good. Keep me posted. I look forward to seeing what He does. :)



At times that can be difficult to face. But don’t forsake the truths you’ve been shown. Have you read through Proverbs?



Tamed? ~laughs

Don’t get me wrong. If someone wants to move on either side. Have at it. But I don’t date older men or rob cradles either. I have a sweet spot. ~lol



As long as you’re willing to face the music; good things can happen.



I’m not diving in until I know the condition of the water I’m stepping into.



Now you’re talking. ;-)



~laughing Have fun!
 
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I just wanna give out! Ya know what I mean? So I am really excited about that! Now that I don't have to worry about going back to school for 6 weeks my mind will be on that!

I’m happy for you. It’s wonderful to see your spirits high and the enthusiasm you have for Him and serving. Its a blessing for others as well. Everyone has challenges. Seeing another push through their struggles is encouraging and gives the observer a boost.

You never know who God has directed towards this thread. You don’t know their lack or the word they to hear need to keep going. Nor do I. But I’m a willing vessel nonetheless and so are you. :)

Anyway is there something specific in there that relates to something?

When I was a little girl, I had a hunger for God. I was raised Roman Catholic and spent a lot time at the rectory talking with priests about Him. I was given a bible and couldn’t wait to read it! I would lay in bed with a flashlight soaking up His word.

My favorite books were Proverbs, Ecclesiastes and the Book of Sirach. When I turned ten I asked the Lord for one thing; wisdom. That’s all I wanted. I’ve made that request over the years and I think He answered.

The book of Proverbs highlights the importance of wisdom and its value to everyone. It addresses many pitfalls in daily life that can derail a man. But when wisdom is in tow you can navigate around them. Since you desire to grow in Him I thought you’d be blessed by its digestion.

Knowledge on its own is great.
But if you lack understanding its just facts.
If you understand the problem but can’t resolve it; you’re stuck. Only wisdom can figure it out.

We need a lot of it to survive and thrive in spite of the obstacles that are hurled in our direction. My wish for you above all is that He will bless you with wisdom. And she will order your steps from now on.

maybe i wouldn't be able to tame you - you're a very strong Godly woman - I know my role - I am an amateur in this rhelm so far! But, I will be getting there make no mistake!!!!!!!

No one tames a lioness. Not even a lion. ;-)

Of course you will. Because you haven’t given up. Your steadfastness is the difference between success and apathy.

HAHA hey! I am not some cradle infant! Make no mistake! In my opinion, any age can be a *SWEET SPOT* if that spirit of you to link and it is holy ya know?

I know what you mean. But I wouldn’t date anyone my daughter’s age. The gap in seasons is a challenge I wouldn’t want for either. I want to grow old with my Beloved.

But it’s interesting you say that. I met someone last year that I was very compatible with. He was a male version of me! We got along well. ~lol

He was too young and wanted a socialite not a business woman. And a lot of that no longer matters. It’s a fine line. I can be in that world but not of it. That world and its philosophy can’t be inside of me. I don’t want someone who emphasizes it.

I mean my PREFERENCE would be a woman that is 25-35 approx but life is SO BIZARRE!!!!!!!!!!!!

My preference has always been for someone my age. But I found myself feeling a deeper connection with men younger than that. Call it a groove if you want. It felt good and natural.

There was a time I was very scared about my future after the break up thing cos i was thinking *WILL I FIND ANYBODY AGAIN?* - *AM I GOOD ENOUGH?*

Starting over isn’t easy. There are moments of doubt and uncertainty. It can be tempting to remain in a familiar place. Because some part of you believes ‘this’ is as good as it gets. And you hang on to situations that have outlived their time.

But the truth is something else. That’s why he’s trying to keep you where you are. Because the blessing is up ahead. And you’ll miss it if you listen to him.

But, takes a man to admit he is not where he wants to be.

Breakdowns only become breakthroughs when we’re willing to face the wreck. If we tell ourselves the carnage is a flower bed. Nothing changes.

You have to reach the point where it breaks your heart to remain as you are. Until then, you’ll nip and tuck. But you won’t reach the heart of the remodel and endure its refinement.

You have to learn to view pain as a teacher and not a thorn. You have to learn how to suffer with grace and bear His correction and instruction in obeisance with a grateful heart.

I used to visualize a novitiate. They lay on the floor with their faces down and arms stretched out in total submission. That’s how I want to be with Him. I want to go low and let Him bring me up. I’m His bondservant and I love my chains. I wouldn’t have it any other way.

cos people want a God that they feel comfortable with - one that they can put in their top pocket - one that allowed them to have sex with whatever they like - what that allows them to be free with 0 consequences - one that allows them to be a homosexual - one that gives a blind eye to his name being used in an unholy way etc etc etc you get the idea - these things man seriously important. Bible makes it clear how we can avoid all this crap.

When you understand your position in relation to Him. When you grasp that He created the chain of command and placed you where He desires you to be. When you cease your insubordination and understand the deeper meaning of your commitment and its captivity; you’ll fall in line.

He is the Master. As long as you covet His seat in some way. Your submission will be incomplete and subservience will never come. But when you operate in the latter, you can say like Elijah, “here I am send me.”

Without any qualifiers or buts. Or any form of negotiation. Just a naked yes. Now that’s beautiful. That’s what I’m working towards.
 
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1.This is one of the sad moments where I feel I am reversing a little bit......doing self stimulation to get my pleasure rush and then feeling guilty an truly feeling worthless whilst thinking of the previous woman and crap.

You know something this is those moments where I wish Christ could literally put his hands on me and purge me - like he cast out demons and bad spirits in people - I wish to God - Christ would do that for me in person - put his hands on me (like he did for the lepers) and cure me - cos really - I can't do this alone - I am wretched.

I sometimes wonder does God reach a limit where he is fed up of his children and gives up on them. I am tired of this - before I was doing so well staying away from that crap then I seep back into that devil's pit.

THIS IS WHY BELLA I SAID IN THE THREAD EARLY I WOULD LOVE TO BE THAT PERSON THAT IS NOT BOTHERED ABOUT ANY OF THIS CRAP - NOT BOTHERED ABOUT WOMEN - NOT BOTHERED ABOUT INTIMACY - NOT BOTHERED ABOUT APPROACHING - ALL I CARE ABOUT IS BEING ALONE AND CONTENT (HENCE WHY THIS THREAT STARTED!) COS I AM SICK OF THIS CRAP.

SOMETIMES PEOPLE REALLY NEED DIVINED INTERVENTION! A BIG SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE! I NEED THAT!

So it completely blitz your feeling about my spirits high after just 10 hours - yet I am going to church tomorrow to help and be hands on and I am still.....whatever man....and it is things like this why people give up and give up praying cos they want to do good! THEY WANT THIS - BUT I AM A HUMAN I NEED A SERIOUS BOOST FROM LORD - Not asking for money - asking for my spirit and mind to be CLEANSED so I don't have to keep falling back.

2. Wisdom.....yeah.....I need a lot of it......nice that your prayers were answered.

3. Well it does break my heart nipping back here and there - I hate it with my soul - I just want to be completely free.

4. I want something else that is why I am here trying to get a new mind - trying to get direction - I am sick of it all.

5. Total submission - now I am just in bed and stuck - crap. Hate this. Just thinking to myself not praying right now just thinking.

I’m happy for you. It’s wonderful to see your spirits high and the enthusiasm you have for Him and serving. Its a blessing for others as well. Everyone has challenges. Seeing another push through their struggles is encouraging and gives the observer a boost.

You never know who God has directed towards this thread. You don’t know their lack or the word they to hear need to keep going. Nor do I. But I’m a willing vessel nonetheless and so are you. :)



When I was a little girl, I had a hunger for God. I was raised Roman Catholic and spent a lot time at the rectory talking with priests about Him. I was given a bible and couldn’t wait to read it! I would lay in bed with a flashlight soaking up His word.

My favorite books were Proverbs, Ecclesiastes and the Book of Sirach. When I turned ten I asked the Lord for one thing; wisdom. That’s all I wanted. I’ve made that request over the years and I think He answered.

The book of Proverbs highlights the importance of wisdom and its value to everyone. It addresses many pitfalls in daily life that can derail a man. But when wisdom is in tow you can navigate around them. Since you desire to grow in Him I thought you’d be blessed by its digestion.

Knowledge on its own is great.
But if you lack understanding its just facts.
If you understand the problem but can’t resolve it; you’re stuck. Only wisdom can figure it out.

We need a lot of it to survive and thrive in spite of the obstacles that are hurled in our direction. My wish for you above all is that He will bless you with wisdom. And she will order your steps from now on.



No one tames a lioness. Not even a lion. ;-)

Of course you will. Because you haven’t given up. Your steadfastness is the difference between success and apathy.



I know what you mean. But I wouldn’t date anyone my daughter’s age. The gap in seasons is a challenge I wouldn’t want for either. I want to grow old with my Beloved.

But it’s interesting you say that. I met someone last year that I was very compatible with. He was a male version of me! We got along well. ~lol

He was too young and wanted a socialite not a business woman. And a lot of that no longer matters. It’s a fine line. I can be in that world but not of it. That world and its philosophy can’t be inside of me. I don’t want someone who emphasizes it.



My preference has always been for someone my age. But I found myself feeling a deeper connection with men younger than that. Call it a groove if you want. It felt good and natural.



Starting over isn’t easy. There are moments of doubt and uncertainty. It can be tempting to remain in a familiar place. Because some part of you believes ‘this’ is as good as it gets. And you hang on to situations that have outlived their time.

But the truth is something else. That’s why he’s trying to keep you where you are. Because the blessing is up ahead. And you’ll miss it if you listen to him.



Breakdowns only become breakthroughs when we’re willing to face the wreck. If we tell ourselves the carnage is a flower bed. Nothing changes.

You have to reach the point where it breaks your heart to remain as you are. Until then, you’ll nip and tuck. But you won’t reach the heart of the remodel and endure its refinement.

You have to learn to view pain as a teacher and not a thorn. You have to learn how to suffer with grace and bear His correction and instruction in obeisance with a grateful heart.

I used to visualize a novitiate. They lay on the floor with their faces down and arms stretched out in total submission. That’s how I want to be with Him. I want to go low and let Him bring me up. I’m His bondservant and I love my chains. I wouldn’t have it any other way.



When you understand your position in relation to Him. When you grasp that He created the chain of command and placed you where He desires you to be. When you cease your insubordination and understand the deeper meaning of your commitment and its captivity; you’ll fall in line.

He is the Master. As long as you covet His seat in some way. Your submission will be incomplete and subservience will never come. But when you operate in the latter, you can say like Elijah, “here I am send me.”

Without any qualifiers or buts. Or any form of negotiation. Just a naked yes. Now that’s beautiful. That’s what I’m working towards.
 
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This is one of the sad moments where I feel I am reversing a little bit......doing self stimulation to get my pleasure rush and then feeling guilty an truly feeling worthless whilst thinking of the previous woman and crap.

You are facing temptations and always will throughout your walk. Right now, it’s concerning your situation. A little later he’ll target another point of weakness.

When you decide to focus and do His will, Satan doesn’t pout. He gets busy. Real busy. He’s looking for holes in your armor. Places he can attack to hinder your steps and build strongholds into your fortress until it collapses.

Notice how his actions bear an eery similarity to war?

I recall an incident I experienced while sharing with my daughter. She’s a believer too. I was seized with pain in my mouth out of the blue. It hurt to talk. But he was busy talking and trying to shut me up.

I didn’t get mad. I got happier. His attack revealed a strength. He frequently attacked when I prayed. But once again, I didn’t get upset. I prayed more. If he’s angry about a work, I shouldn’t back down. I should keep my foot on the gas.

He desires to build manacles within every believer. To burrow into our mind, body and heart and take them over. Through their weakening he can access what he’s really after. Our spirit.

But I won’t go down without a fight. I fought for my freedom and we’ll slug it out until I depart. I won’t cede the ground I’ve gained. I don’t fear him at all. The worst has happened.

Gird up your loins. Strap on your gloves. Grab your bible and get ready to fight. You may take a blow. But God will brace your fall. You’ll stumble. But he won’t get a TKO.

I wish to God - Christ would do that for me in person - put his hands on me (like he did for the lepers) and cure me - cos really - I can't do this alone - I am wretched.

If you don’t find the sin bothersome you’ll never stop. You have to see it from God’s perspective. It stinks. There are things I could do and reason in my head. But the consequences hold me back. I know what’s coming if I entertain it. So I don’t. Some things are harder to shake than others.

Everything you want to do is placing a bulls-eye on your back. Sometimes he’s overt. And others subtle. But make no mistake, he’s trying to take you out. He must put out the fire or make you ineffective.

Your comfort in revealing yourself adds more heat to the fire. Because hypocrisy is frequently levied against Christians. But you’re getting real and showing your imperfections. He can’t have that. You might win souls that way.

I sometimes wonder does God reach a limit where he is fed up of his children and gives up on them. I am tired of this - before I was doing so well staying away from that crap then I seep back into that devil's pit.

He understands our weaknesses and loves us through them. Paul addressed a similar struggle. The things he wanted to do he didn’t do. The things he didn’t he did. We aren’t perfected. You’re a holy work in progress.

THIS IS WHY BELLA I SAID IN THE THREAD EARLY I WOULD LOVE TO BE THAT PERSON THAT IS NOT BOTHERED ABOUT ANY OF THIS CRAP

I should clarify a few things regarding myself. I’ve had long periods of abstinence and singleness. I am comfortable being alone by nature. Although I’m an extrovert and had many friends too.

In relation to the opposite sex, I emphasized quality over quantity. The Lord’s intervention in this area has great significance. He’s done it twice and possibly more than I admit.

The nature of the industry requires me to be girded and steadfast. I won’t survive it if I’m not in this place. I’ll be subject to serious sins and demonic oppression. And given my gifts and ability to grasp the supernatural through five senses. My experience is profoundly worse because I know what’s bothering me.

But that doesn’t mean I’m never tempted. However, my opportunities are lessened because of the boundaries I’ve established and being home all day. I don’t have access to the opposite sex to the degree most do. Or male friendships either.

You can get into a lot of trouble with 168 hours at your disposal to find it. This is where pruning comes in. Some of my responses may not make sense. Or may give the impression that I’m prudish. I’m a long way from that.

But they’re honestly the result of my lifestyle. And if I wasn’t disciplined and firm in my commitment with God and the boundaries He’s set, I’d be a wreck. I’d fall into many sin areas and be in bondage to awful things.

I stay on the narrow path. It doesn’t mean I don’t wobble. But it means I have no interest in taking detours. I don’t want to fail. I don’t wanna disappoint Him. It hurts.

I desire a worthy companion and a fulfilling marital bed. I’m not compromising either. Both are important to me. But the way to that must be God’s, not mine. I can’t endure the stress and spiritual pressure of going AWOL.

I mentioned faithfulness and discipline for a reason. There’s no randomness in my words. The trials are meant to deter you from you goal and weaken your zeal.

My relationship with God is the result of negative spiritual experiences and several years alone. During that time my lone companions were family and my daughter. He filled those spaces with Himself.

I emerged stronger and deeply rooted in Him. I had the stretch of a day to immerse myself in His presence. You’re going to get close if you do that on a daily basis.

Cause and effect is what I’m getting at. Satan put up a fight for yours truly. It took nearly a year to be wholly free of him. But once I was and the smoke cleared I had a new understanding. For a time he was meddlesome. But the more I resisted him the less he attacked.

The result of my experiences are a never-ending faith and absence of doubt. But that’s understandable given what I’ve gone through. Possibilities is my motto because I know what He’s done and is capable of doing if I stay the course.

Never let anything or anyone break your stride. You keep moving. Failures are part of any successful venture. Suck it up. You’ll have more. But over time you’ll grow stronger and this won’t be a place of weakness anymore.

Stop focusing on the failure. It’s the end that matters most. I keep my eye on the prize. I don’t pay attention to him or anything he’s up to.

I focus on mastering my call. My Ph.D of the spirit. I need to understand how he threatens the mission and my areas of weakness that are helping him. I won’t cede a morsel of my armor. If a hole exists it must be addressed. So I’m battle ready at all times.

If you persist in eating from the tree of sorrow and turning your failures over in your head. You’ll develop a spirit of heaviness. Also known as depression.

Confess, repent, and let it go. Guilt and flagellation are not of God. But prayer is. And if you don’t feel like praying and moping is more appealing you know who’s influencing that. Don’t take the bait.
 
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Yes.

I remember faithfulness and discipline very well you said I remember.

Well you said took you a year round about to really become what you are. So that shows it is a long term thing (which I know).

I find the sin VERY bothersome (self stimulation) very childish and immature tbh. For me it highlights just how sad a person is........I don't want to be that.

Yes - of course can change - by NOT DOING - yes - I need distractions hence I speak about hands on at the church.

Look I made a mistake lastnight (tbh this morning too) look I want God to forgive me - he must can see I am fighting - of course prayer is God not moping of course.

Again, codependency is not what I want - cos times I feel like *if i had somebody i was close/cool with I could indulge with about these things in person would help* but I have said certain things needs to be done alone.

Just want God to forgive me....

Reason I have not prayed in last few days just been feeling like *what is the point?* I am here I need to sort out - nothing else can help this but me. But then my inner self tells me NO THAT AIN'T RIGHT cos I know I can't do things alone.

Times since everything where I have been thinking things etc etc and I say out loud *GET AWAY FROM ME SATAN!* cos I know it is polluted crap I am thinking.

Temptations are everywhere of course - but i limited myself greatly - not being on social media (especially Snapchat!) - TV limited - just wanting to be in church or enjoy the green out doors (socialise with people in real life).

When you spoke about your daughter and feeling you was not able to speak - I guess that was me with my previous - at times not wanting to speak when I should have - probably Satan was at work - cos YES she might not have been a believer but her heart was in right place - times I think (though she was not a believer in the way we see as important) I messed up what could have been something special in the long term and Godly.....i dunno....I ain't God I dunno how things could/might have turned out.....I dunno.

Anyway, yes stop focusing on failure - and this is where I need SAVAGE MENTAL EXERCISE like you wouldn't believe!

Times I say to myself *I am just gonna be all about myself and focus and looking amazing and looking ripped* bla bla bla bla so I have LOVE but the love is for me, myself an I - cos I tell you this Bella - once upon a time that was all I was about and I was happy (okay was I Godly?) No but I was not leaning on anybody! An I didn't have this issue I have now. Maybe that answers a lot.

But, yeah there you go!

Confess - repent and let go.

I have said so many times in prayer I am wretched - I have stated it SO many times - repent turn around - I did then I fell but letting go (time can deal with that all) time - that crap part about being a human being.

LORD I AM A WRETCHED HUMAN BEING! I have NO problem saying that NONE WHATSOEVER! I AM WRETCHED AND FOUL! This is where I need Christ to put hands on me.

See I could be all of that and not ask for help and continue.

I make it CLEAR I AM WRETCHED! And I need a MASSIVE power to sweep in.

But yeah.

There you go.





You are facing temptations and always will throughout your walk. Right now, it’s concerning your situation. A little later he’ll target another point of weakness.

When you decide to focus and do His will, Satan doesn’t pout. He gets busy. Real busy. He’s looking for holes in your armor. Places he can attack to hinder your steps and build strongholds into your fortress until it collapses.

Notice how his actions bear an eery similarity to war?

I recall an incident I experienced while sharing with my daughter. She’s a believer too. I was seized with pain in my mouth out of the blue. It hurt to talk. But he was busy talking and trying to shut me up.

I didn’t get mad. I got happier. His attack revealed a strength. He frequently attacked when I prayed. But once again, I didn’t get upset. I prayed more. If he’s angry about a work, I shouldn’t back down. I should keep my foot on the gas.

He desires to build manacles within every believer. To burrow into our mind, body and heart and take them over. Through their weakening he can access what he’s really after. Our spirit.

But I won’t go down without a fight. I fought for my freedom and we’ll slug it out until I depart. I won’t cede the ground I’ve gained. I don’t fear him at all. The worst has happened.

Gird up your loins. Strap on your gloves. Grab your bible and get ready to fight. You may take a blow. But God will brace your fall. You’ll stumble. But he won’t get a TKO.



If you don’t find the sin bothersome you’ll never stop. You have to see it from God’s perspective. It stinks. There are things I could do and reason in my head. But the consequences hold me back. I know what’s coming if I entertain it. So I don’t. Some things are harder to shake than others.

Everything you want to do is placing a bulls-eye on your back. Sometimes he’s overt. And others subtle. But make no mistake, he’s trying to take you out. He must put out the fire or make you ineffective.

Your comfort in revealing yourself adds more heat to the fire. Because hypocrisy is frequently levied against Christians. But you’re getting real and showing your imperfections. He can’t have that. You might win souls that way.



He understands our weaknesses and loves us through them. Paul addressed a similar struggle. The things he wanted to do he didn’t do. The things he didn’t he did. We aren’t perfected. You’re a holy work in progress.



I should clarify a few things regarding myself. I’ve had long periods of abstinence and singleness. I am comfortable being alone by nature. Although I’m an extrovert and had many friends too.

In relation to the opposite sex, I emphasized quality over quantity. The Lord’s intervention in this area has great significance. He’s done it twice and possibly more than I admit.

The nature of the industry requires me to be girded and steadfast. I won’t survive it if I’m not in this place. I’ll be subject to serious sins and demonic oppression. And given my gifts and ability to grasp the supernatural through five senses. My experience is profoundly worse because I know what’s bothering me.

But that doesn’t mean I’m never tempted. However, my opportunities are lessened because of the boundaries I’ve established and being home all day. I don’t have access to the opposite sex to the degree most do. Or male friendships either.

You can get into a lot of trouble with 168 hours at your disposal to find it. This is where pruning comes in. Some of my responses may not make sense. Or may give the impression that I’m prudish. I’m a long way from that.

But they’re honestly the result of my lifestyle. And if I wasn’t disciplined and firm in my commitment with God and the boundaries He’s set, I’d be a wreck. I’d fall into many sin areas and be in bondage to awful things.

I stay on the narrow path. It doesn’t mean I don’t wobble. But it means I have no interest in taking detours. I don’t want to fail. I don’t wanna disappoint Him. It hurts.

I desire a worthy companion and a fulfilling marital bed. I’m not compromising either. Both are important to me. But the way to that must be God’s, not mine. I can’t endure the stress and spiritual pressure of going AWOL.

I mentioned faithfulness and discipline for a reason. There’s no randomness in my words. The trials are meant to deter you from you goal and weaken your zeal.

My relationship with God is the result of negative spiritual experiences and several years alone. During that time my lone companions were family and my daughter. He filled those spaces with Himself.

I emerged stronger and deeply rooted in Him. I had the stretch of a day to immerse myself in His presence. You’re going to get close if you do that on a daily basis.

Cause and effect is what I’m getting at. Satan put up a fight for yours truly. It took nearly a year to be wholly free of him. But once I was and the smoke cleared I had a new understanding. For a time he was meddlesome. But the more I resisted him the less he attacked.

The result of my experiences are a never-ending faith and absence of doubt. But that’s understandable given what I’ve gone through. Possibilities is my motto because I know what He’s done and is capable of doing if I stay the course.

Never let anything or anyone break your stride. You keep moving. Failures are part of any successful venture. Suck it up. You’ll have more. But over time you’ll grow stronger and this won’t be a place of weakness anymore.

Stop focusing on the failure. It’s the end that matters most. I keep my eye on the prize. I don’t pay attention to him or anything he’s up to.

I focus on mastering my call. My Ph.D of the spirit. I need to understand how he threatens the mission and my areas of weakness that are helping him. I won’t cede a morsel of my armor. If a hole exists it must be addressed. So I’m battle ready at all times.

If you persist in eating from the tree of sorrow and turning your failures over in your head. You’ll develop a spirit of heaviness. Also known as depression.

Confess, repent, and let it go. Guilt and flagellation are not of God. But prayer is. And if you don’t feel like praying and moping is more appealing you know who’s influencing that. Don’t take the bait.
 
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Well you said took you a year round about to really become what you are. So that shows it is a long term thing (which I know).

It took nearly a year to release me from Satan’s hand. He didn’t let go when I chose the Lord. He fought hard. I have studied and practiced many religions and I’m conversant in most. So he held on until the Lord put Him out.

I find the sin VERY bothersome (self stimulation) very childish and immature tbh. For me it highlights just how sad a person is........I don't want to be that.

You’ve gone too far in your thinking. The mind is a tool. We shouldn’t be ruled by it. We’re told to come as children for a reason. They keep it simple. Adults don’t.

The act is wrong. You don’t need to go further and give more attention to it. You love to expound on your thoughts. And that’s fine when they’re under subjection. But less so when they aren’t.

And in all your ‘thinking’ you’ve neglected to do the one thing that would strengthen your resistance. Less talk. More action. If you aren’t praying you shouldn’t expect to walk in victory. You’re trying to do it in your strength; not God’s.

Yes - of course can change - by NOT DOING - yes - I need distractions hence I speak about hands on at the church.

Church can be a blessing or a crutch. You can’t serve to avoid sin. You have to do as Paul did. Bring your body under submission and make it your slave. Not be enslaved by it. There are many people in church dealing with the same things you are. And they’re serving too.

Look I made a mistake lastnight (tbh this morning too) look I want God to forgive me - he must can see I am fighting - of course prayer is God not moping of course.

He’s already forgiven you. That’s done.

Again, codependency is not what I want - cos times I feel like *if i had somebody i was close/cool with I could indulge with about these things in person would help* but I have said certain things needs to be done alone.

You must get to the root of this. And that’s the issue which drives you in this direction. It may not be physical in nature. If you’re trying to silence your mind or heart and a distraction is a must you’ll head towards it. Understand?

Bind the strongman. Put the problem to rest and you won’t have much to battle. The sin is the result of the thing you’re try to escape or forget.

Reason I have not prayed in last few days just been feeling like *what is the point?* I am here I need to sort out - nothing else can help this but me. But then my inner self tells me NO THAT AIN'T RIGHT cos I know I can't do things alone.

Your reason should tell you that doesn’t make sense. If you don’t feel like talking to God why are you worried about His forgiveness when you mess up?

You’re trying to do a lot. But busyness has its chains too. Sometimes we have to be still instead. You’re worried about doing and less so about the thing that empowers the work. God is looking at your heart and motives while you’re working.

I remember a woman in my bible study. I saw her sitting with her daughters the previous week at church. And I said to myself, where is her husband? Then I blurted out unexpectedly...ahhh. I understood he wasn’t there because he wasn’t a believer.

We were studying 1 Peter in class. The ladies were discussing the ways they’d tried to minister to their husbands and how God told them to back off or approach it differently.

The woman stood up and shared her testimony with us all. She admitted her disobedience in marriage. She married someone from her youth who was good husband and a provider. But he was not a believer and she knew it at the time and did not relent.

And she shared all the things she’d done to show love and the gospel. But he wouldn’t budge. In deference to that lack, she became over involved at church. It was filling the void that he couldn’t.

She said the Lord told her to go home to her husband! She was trying to escape the pain and admitted the price of her disobedience to us all. It was a 20-year lesson and counting. But I sensed his deliverance was nigh and began praying for his salvation. And I digested the message she shared.

That was for me and I knew it. A bad idea will carry you further and involve greater consequences than you ever imagined. The heart is deceitful and we can’t live by our emotions. We need His truth serum in place to weed through the dross.

When you spoke about your daughter and feeling you was not able to speak

He was afflicting me with pain. I couldn’t talk. So I started writing. ;-)

I guess that was me with my previous - at times not wanting to speak when I should have - probably Satan was at work - cos YES she might not have been a believer but her heart was in right place - times I think (though she was not a believer in the way we see as important)

The nature of your relationship complicated that. You’re living in sin while trying to bring her away from sin and into God. This is why I told him no repeatedly. It would ruin my witness and destroy what the Lord could do through me if the situation was different.

I loved his soul more than him. When it came down to it there was never a choice. I would forsake my heart every time in exchange for his reunion with God. That’s eternal. I set aside a companion to gain a brother instead. That means more to Him than the other.

I am just gonna be all about myself and focus and looking amazing and looking ripped* bla bla bla bla so I have LOVE but the love is for me, myself an I

We’re all selfish to some degree. It manifests in different ways. You focus on the physical and I’m indifferent. Sometimes that’s appropriate and others not so much.

See I could be all of that and not ask for help and continue.

If you want to be the source of the solution you don’t call for help too often. You’re trying to be the hero. But when you realize you’re helpless. You’re yelling fast and loud until He answers.

I don’t affirm those things. I focus on who He says I am instead. I don’t swim in negative waters. Ever. If I make mistake I admit it. But wallowing and beating myself up and the mental gymnastics that come with it aren’t my forte. The problem still exists and I’ve inflicted new wounds too.

I love myself immensely and I know He does. If I wouldn’t say the same to someone I love. Why would I say it to myself? That makes no sense.

I used to read Kahlil Gibran often. These words came to me and I think they’re good ones to end with.

When love beckons to you follow him,
Though his ways are hard and steep.
And when his wings enfold you yield to him,
Though the sword hidden among his pinions may wound you.
And when he speaks to you believe in him,
Though his voice may shatter your dreams as the north wind lays waste the garden.

For even as love crowns you so shall he crucify you.
Even as he is for your growth so is he for your pruning.
Even as he ascends to your height and caresses your tenderest branches that quiver in the sun,
So shall he descend to your roots and shake them in their clinging to the earth.

Like sheaves of corn he gathers you unto himself.
He threshes you to make you naked.
He sifts you to free you from your husks.
He grinds you to whiteness.
He kneads you until you are pliant;

And then he assigns you to his sacred fire, that you may become sacred bread for God's sacred feast.
All these things shall love do unto you that you may know the secrets of your heart, and in that knowledge become a fragment of Life's heart.
 
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1. Yeah everything is a battle.....sometimes after a while fighting gets tiring as well (not saying to bend over for Satan) but fighting all the time - this is why when people end things in life. You see why (not supporting it) but I never ever judge when people do take their own lives - why? - cos you must be in a savagely horrible place to do so.

2. Yes - but self stimulation is a problem cos as I heard if you do that all the time how on earth can you be ready to for that special spouse (when time comes) for that sense not about me OVERTHINKING just stating facts there but of course you stop and move on! I am sorry: You're forgiven.

3. Well Miss Bella i am a very analytical person i've always been that. How my mind has always been......times it is useful others maybe not......

4. Times I am like *YOU CAN NOT COUNT ON ANYBODY BUT YOURSELF!* trust NOBODY! Rely on only yourself! Cos then you are protected! An I see why people have that mind and you can't really blame them - they see how this world is and people are so they become a real SOLO show (which I would kill to be right now tbh).

5. Yes God's strength needed - trying to walk alone - again I will say again *I AM WRETCHED IN THE HEART AND SOUL! I will keep saying that to God till it is cemented and REALLY understood! Cos Galatians says God is not mocked or fooled (to that effect) well I am making it CRYSTAL CLEAR *I AM WRETCHED IN THE HEART AND SOUL* I am - bottom line! I AM WRETCHED for all the nice things I might to at times for people etc I AM WRETCHED! TBH more I admit I AM WRETCHED the more I feel at peace tbh....................I AM WRETCHED TO THE CORE! ONLY CHRIST can DELIVER ME! I believe in Christ 100% BUT I AM WRETCHED! I can read the Bible (I will later) doesn't change the fact that I AM WRETCHED!

6. Actions speak louder than words - defo - hence why I need to start somewhere - at the church. Yes you can't avoid sin - but I need to start somewhere in my wretched state!

7. *******You must get to the root of this. And that’s the issue which drives you in this direction. It may not be physical in nature. If you’re trying to silence your mind or heart and a distraction is a must you’ll head towards it. Understand?******* could you explain that further please?

8. That story you mentioned about Bible study yearss ago very interesting! Lying to ourselves is the worst thing ever.

9. Yeah with the kids I teach writing is a way for them to express themselves due to their needs.

10. Yes defo the relationship was complex I agree with you - was Satan delivered - you know at times when I get ill feelings about things I say *F_@K OFF SATAN* yeah I say that - that is what I say. Not Biblical as *Get thee behind me Satan* but for me saying F OFF SATAN really hits the mark. Look I am not fronting to you I am trying but I am WRETCHED and you will hear me say this a lot *I AM WRETCHED* I said that even in prayers to God *GOD I AM WRETCHED* I make that VERY CLEAR!!!! I AM WRETCHED and your daughter (she is my age) I know you would never feel comfy if she was to go to somebody with my mindset etc etc right now (cos you know me a bit now) btw **I am not trying to ask to be with your daughter** but what I am saying when you see what somebody's spirit/soul/inside is like you then don't want to have that for your offspring - why? COS WRETCHED. Just facts - I am very much admitting I am WRETCHED and need SERIOUS help that Christ can only deliver - fact is this - a lot of things on earth will never change and will remain the same till Christ comes back. That is the truth.

11. Well when you are so slumped/wretched you need ANYTHING to make you feel good - at least I can say *WELL I AM A BEAUTIFUL BODY* or whatever - SOMETHING for me to feel good about myself inside - or looking at my goals of being self sufficient - and that is why when I speak about APPROACHING WOMEN etc etc truth is I shouldn't bother - cos I am gonna talk VERY blunt and pardon my language - but when VAGINA is in the equation - my goals then takes a big turn! When they say *A MAN'S HOUSE SHOULD BE IN ORDER BEFORE THE WOMAN* very true (regardless of being secular or Christian) that is just facts. So with that said - when I am having a SELFISH mentality of being just about: ME - GYM (looking great) - and looking at my goals as a young man - and not giving a damn about women that is what promotes that. So many men (and women) who have their goals dashed cos they entertain the opposite sex. Time wasted! But they say God is the redeemer of time - well I need to put myself in that position to make sure I don't balls up things again.

12. Mental gymnastics I don't want - which is why I am trying to gain self love.

13. I got back from the gym a good 20 minutes ago - I will head to the local park lay on the grass and look up and think/meditate and have a chat with God.

It took nearly a year to release me from Satan’s hand. He didn’t let go when I chose the Lord. He fought hard. I have studied and practiced many religions and I’m conversant in most. So he held on until the Lord put Him out.



You’ve gone too far in your thinking. The mind is a tool. We shouldn’t be ruled by it. We’re told to come as children for a reason. They keep it simple. Adults don’t.

The act is wrong. You don’t need to go further and give more attention to it. You love to expound on your thoughts. And that’s fine when they’re under subjection. But less so when they aren’t.

And in all your ‘thinking’ you’ve neglected to do the one thing that would strengthen your resistance. Less talk. More action. If you aren’t praying you shouldn’t expect to walk in victory. You’re trying to do it in your strength; not God’s.



Church can be a blessing or a crutch. You can’t serve to avoid sin. You have to do as Paul did. Bring your body under submission and make it your slave. Not be enslaved by it. There are many people in church dealing with the same things you are. And they’re serving too.



He’s already forgiven you. That’s done.



You must get to the root of this. And that’s the issue which drives you in this direction. It may not be physical in nature. If you’re trying to silence your mind or heart and a distraction is a must you’ll head towards it. Understand?

Bind the strongman. Put the problem to rest and you won’t have much to battle. The sin is the result of the thing you’re try to escape or forget.



Your reason should tell you that doesn’t make sense. If you don’t feel like talking to God why are you worried about His forgiveness when you mess up?

You’re trying to do a lot. But busyness has its chains too. Sometimes we have to be still instead. You’re worried about doing and less so about the thing that empowers the work. God is looking at your heart and motives while you’re working.

I remember a woman in my bible study. I saw her sitting with her daughters the previous week at church. And I said to myself, where is her husband? Then I blurted out unexpectedly...ahhh. I understood he wasn’t there because he wasn’t a believer.

We were studying 1 Peter in class. The ladies were discussing the ways they’d tried to minister to their husbands and how God told them to back off or approach it differently.

The woman stood up and shared her testimony with us all. She admitted her disobedience in marriage. She married someone from her youth who was good husband and a provider. But he was not a believer and she knew it at the time and did not relent.

And she shared all the things she’d done to show love and the gospel. But he wouldn’t budge. In deference to that lack, she became over involved at church. It was filling the void that he couldn’t.

She said the Lord told her to go home to her husband! She was trying to escape the pain and admitted the price of her disobedience to us all. It was a 20-year lesson and counting. But I sensed his deliverance was nigh and began praying for his salvation. And I digested the message she shared.

That was for me and I knew it. A bad idea will carry you further and involve greater consequences than you ever imagined. The heart is deceitful and we can’t live by our emotions. We need His truth serum in place to weed through the dross.



He was afflicting me with pain. I couldn’t talk. So I started writing. ;-)



The nature of your relationship complicated that. You’re living in sin while trying to bring her away from sin and into God. This is why I told him no repeatedly. It would ruin my witness and destroy what the Lord could do through me if the situation was different.

I loved his soul more than him. When it came down to it there was never a choice. I would forsake my heart every time in exchange for his reunion with God. That’s eternal. I set aside a companion to gain a brother instead. That means more to Him than the other.



We’re all selfish to some degree. It manifests in different ways. You focus on the physical and I’m indifferent. Sometimes that’s appropriate and others not so much.



If you want to be the source of the solution you don’t call for help too often. You’re trying to be the hero. But when you realize you’re helpless. You’re yelling fast and loud until He answers.

I don’t affirm those things. I focus on who He says I am instead. I don’t swim in negative waters. Ever. If I make mistake I admit it. But wallowing and beating myself up and the mental gymnastics that come with it aren’t my forte. The problem still exists and I’ve inflicted new wounds too.

I love myself immensely and I know He does. If I wouldn’t say the same to someone I love. Why would I say it to myself? That makes no sense.

I used to read Kahlil Gibran often. These words came to me and I think they’re good ones to end with.

When love beckons to you follow him,
Though his ways are hard and steep.
And when his wings enfold you yield to him,
Though the sword hidden among his pinions may wound you.
And when he speaks to you believe in him,
Though his voice may shatter your dreams as the north wind lays waste the garden.

For even as love crowns you so shall he crucify you.
Even as he is for your growth so is he for your pruning.
Even as he ascends to your height and caresses your tenderest branches that quiver in the sun,
So shall he descend to your roots and shake them in their clinging to the earth.

Like sheaves of corn he gathers you unto himself.
He threshes you to make you naked.
He sifts you to free you from your husks.
He grinds you to whiteness.
He kneads you until you are pliant;

And then he assigns you to his sacred fire, that you may become sacred bread for God's sacred feast.
All these things shall love do unto you that you may know the secrets of your heart, and in that knowledge become a fragment of Life's heart.
 
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1. Yeah everything is a battle.....sometimes after a while fighting gets tiring as well

Wearing you down is one of his tactics. When I was laboring for him I didn’t do it on my own. I had people in the church and other ministries standing with me and a chorus of voices offered prayers on his behalf. And you need the same.

Yes - but self stimulation is a problem cos as I heard if you do that all the time how on earth can you be ready to for that special spouse

It’s a sin against the body which houses the Holy Spirit. That’s the primary issue. Not its impact on a potential spouse.

*YOU CAN NOT COUNT ON ANYBODY BUT YOURSELF!* trust NOBODY!

When I was under spiritual attack my girls stood with me. Not in word but shoulder to shoulder. They were taking hits and getting their butts kicked too. And there wasn’t a moment when they complained, wouldn’t listen, or allowed me to quit.

I’m a soldier, but no war is won singlehandedly. I won’t let him send me on a suicide mission. I gather my strength and resources and always bring Him into battle.

Sometimes expectations get in the way of love. Our ideas of what’s needed impede the other person from giving authentically. Cause we’re expecting something else.

*******You must get to the root of this. And that’s the issue which drives you in this direction. It may not be physical in nature. If you’re trying to silence your mind or heart and a distraction is a must you’ll head towards it. Understand?******* could you explain that further please

The sin could be a form of escape or comfort that dulls your mind and heart and pushes the thing that hurts back under. It’s a coping mechanism for some.

Many people have a bad day and need a drink later. It’s how they cope with the stress. Same thing.

That story you mentioned about Bible study yearss ago very interesting! Lying to ourselves is the worst thing ever.

He came to service a few months later. She never imagined it would take that long and that was the point. God made her walk it out.

and your daughter (she is my age) I know you would never feel comfy if she was to go to somebody with my mindset etc etc right now (cos you know me a bit now)

I’d have no worries about your ability to influence her at all. She has 21 years of molding and wisdom poured into her person regarding the opposite sex. Bringing home a companion who is God fearing and honorable is what she wants most.

But more importantly, she values my opinion and we have a structure in place for prospects. My ‘no’ isn’t viewed with contention or sorrow. She’s looking for God’s best. Not hers.

I don’t share your ideas on wretchedness. It would have been difficult to minister to him if I did. Our lifestyles were very different and he crossed lines I no longer could. But when I looked at him I saw his need; not the sin. I felt love and pity. Not anger or disgust.

Well when you are so slumped/wretched you need ANYTHING to make you feel good

But faking it until you make it doesn’t work in all situations. Especially spiritual ones.
 
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what other goals and ambitions do you have?

Interesting question.

Although finding a Godly woman is a very good goal but not the most important thing in this life.

This one thing if you found it, it wouldn't matter anymore if you got married or remained single the rest of your life.
 
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Wearing you down is one of his tactics. When I was laboring for him I didn’t do it on my own. I had people in the church and other ministries standing with me and a chorus of voices offered prayers on his behalf. And you need the same.
I was at the park a pastor came to me was spreading the word - we have a very long chat!! Prayed together at the end on the park bench - lots he said I won't go into now I will later.
It’s a sin against the body which houses the Holy Spirit. That’s the primary issue. Not its impact on a potential spouse.
Hmmm you say that - but in marriage if somebody is so THIRSTY that when they are not intimate together they do that i mean it demeans the marriage don't ya think? I GET WHAT YOU ARE SAYING! But just feel like - i dunno. But I get you.
Many people have a bad day and need a drink later. It’s how they cope with the stress. Same thing.
Right ok ok ok I understand yeah it is more that I guess.
He came to service a few months later. She never imagined it would take that long and that was the point. God made her walk it out.
That is quite a long time! Yeah - ah ok ok let me tell you what the pastor said (when he was spreading word in the park) cos I was looking up at the sky and I was thinking *I SHOULD DO WHAT I KNOW I CAN DO TO FEEL INSTANT FULFILMENT* i know not right but anyway I was feelin lil low - then he came along talking about the word so I told him to sit down we had long talk - told him my history etc etc he told me how he met his wife and asked if i was saved.
I told him *NOBODY IS SAVED TILL CHRIST RETURNS* he laughed he asked if I have accepted Christ? I said YES OF COURSE but I am wretched he then asked DOES GOD WANT TO HEAR THAT? I said well it is truth an he is not mocked - he said cos God knows these things already about me - God knows I want a Godly woman etc etc all these things - he said the holy ghost is important and I must pray for the Holy Ghost cos when i have that these LOW feelings will die.

Talked to me about tongues too and explained how the Holy Ghost works and other things too. But yeah just gave me a lil CHARGED feeling ya know? So yeah. Look I will need MANY charges! He took my number he said he will call me down the line to see how I get on.
He told me that I have a bright future ahead - meant a great deal to hear that..........
I’m a soldier, but no war is won singlehandedly. I won’t let him send me on a suicide mission. I gather my strength and resources and always bring Him into battle.
True true true.
I’d have no worries about your ability to influence her at all. She has 21 years of molding and wisdom poured into her person regarding the opposite sex. Bringing home a companion who is God fearing and honorable is what she wants most.
The God fearing partner people are chasing!
But faking it until you make it doesn’t work in all situations. Especially spiritual ones.
Holy spirit is needed - that is what I will pray for - but the pastor asked me about my previous relation cos he said *THERE IS NOT WAY THE HOLY SPIRIT DID NOT SPEAK TO YOU DURING THAT* I said OF COURSE I knew what was right and wrong I felt parts were wrong etc etc etc then he said *YES THAT IS THE HOLY SPIRIT PEOPLE IGNORE IT SOME DON'T* he said.
He even went onto say that the HS will let you go the wrong path (might have angels with you to protect you) wait for things to crumble (however long it takes) before you come back to stage one - and then go the right way (like I am trying).
Yeah....there you go.....
 
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