Well, the left was finally able to shut someone down.......

DanishLutheran · Jul 4, 2019

GoldenBoy89 said:
What made her parents think this is an appropriate subject for a child to take part in?

What makes people think that it's appropriate to drag their children to "gay pride parades", or the drag-queens-reading-hour, or any kind of demonstration?

GoldenBoy89 said:
The way I see it, they put her in this situation.

Ah yes. The rapist isn't at fault for the rape. The victim is by wearing revealing clothes.
This is your logic. And it assumes that issuing death threats and other kinds of harassment is legitimate against people whose viewpoints you disagree with.

carlv_52 · Jul 4, 2019

DanishLutheran said:
What makes people think that it's appropriate to drag their children to "gay pride parades", or the drag-queens-reading-hour, or any kind of demonstration?

To teach them that "others" are not always bad people. That we should respect OTHER people who are not like us.

Tanj · Jul 4, 2019

civilwarbuff said:
Or is it that the left won't let even an 8yo express an opinion without feeling threatened?

Can't speak for teh left, but personally, I cannot watch an 8 year old cajoled into expressing their parents opinion in public without feeling nauseated.

DanishLutheran · Jul 4, 2019

carlv_52 said:
And most on the Left agree that Antifa is often more of a bad actor than a good one. But, again, there are far fewer graves filled with their victims than right wing extremists here in the US. Until that changes that is ALWAYS going to be the issue. ALWAYS.

No. Because antifa is having a much larger impact on public discourse than a few lone wolf nutjobs, who, mind you, are prosecuted and sentenced, unlike antifa.
So no, nice try, but body count isn't the issue here. The issue is how antifa acts with impunity to threaten, doxx, otherwise harass, and brutally assault those they disagree with.

Tanj · Jul 4, 2019

DanishLutheran said:
What makes people think that it's appropriate to drag their children to "gay pride parades", or the drag-queens-reading-hour, or any kind of demonstration?

The same people that think its appropriate to do a miniAOC?

civilwarbuff · Jul 4, 2019

GoldenBoy89 said:
I'll tell you one thing... I would not want and would even speak out if I saw my sister or brother in-law involving my 8 year old niece in any kind of political discussion in this current climate we're living in. There are just too many crazies out there with way too much access to people right now for any sane person to take a public stance on their politics. It is dangerous. It is no place for children who don't even understand the context of the discussions that are taking place and it needlessly exposes them to a very ugly facet of American society.

I really feel for this little girl who was thrust into this disgusting battle that is happening. I don't feel for the parents who put her into this situation, though.

So, you are blaming the people who post things like what this girl had posted instead of the people who express their anger, hatred and threats toward them?.....is that it? We should all be afraid to post things online because "crazies" may become abusive and threatening? Sounds like turning the asylum over to the inmates to me.

GOD Shines Forth! · Jul 4, 2019

GoldenBoy89 said:
The internet is an ugly, dangerous place. Don't expose your kids to it for likes and views.

Agree. I saw an adult woman lampoon AOC and I thought she was spot on (for parody's sake). But I was uncomfortable seeing the child portray her. Out of place. IMO the internet is a strictly adult medium, and I believe no children should be on it unsupervised.

GoldenBoy89 · Jul 4, 2019

DanishLutheran said:
What makes people think that it's appropriate to drag their children to "gay pride parades", or the drag-queens-reading-hour, or any kind of demonstration?

I don't know if you expected an argument from me but I agree that kids shouldn't be taking part in any kind of gay pride parade. That's a subject I would argue is beyond their comprehension at such a young age.

Ah yes. The rapist isn't at fault for the rape. The victim is by wearing revealing clothes.
This is your logic. And it assumes that issuing death threats and other kinds of harassment is legitimate against people whose viewpoints you disagree with.

Not at all. I don't condone any of this behavior just because I accept that it exists. The dirtbags I know that exist on the internet are there regardless of what ideal we may have for an internet community. It is completely up to parents to protect their kids from the kind of environment that we all know exists online. You know there's bad people online. I know there's bad people online. We all know politics are a highly divisive subject. If either of us choose to expose our kids to that environment it is completely on us for doing so.

civilwarbuff · Jul 4, 2019

Tanj said:
Can't speak for teh left, but personally, I cannot watch an 8 year old cajoled into expressing their parents opinion in public without feeling nauseated.

And you are certain that it is the parents opinion how?...….

civilwarbuff · Jul 4, 2019

carlv_52 said:
That's because Antifa has yet to brutally murder someone they disagree with. THe majority of domestic terrorism here in the US is done by and on behalf of far right causes. Before 9/11 the single biggest terrorist activity on US soil was done by Timothy McVeigh, a racist rightwing extremist.

We are not discussing terrorism here; please stay on topic.

GoldenBoy89 · Jul 4, 2019

civilwarbuff said:
So, you are blaming the people who post things like what this girl had posted instead of the people who express their anger, hatred and threats toward them?.....is that it? We should all be afraid to post things online because "crazies" may become abusive and threatening? Sounds like turning the asylum over to the inmates to me.

The internet is kind of a free for all. I've known this since I was like 12, over 15 years ago and have had free access to it since then. I blame people who should by now know better than to expect the internet world to respect their views or ideas like there's some sacred line that can't be crossed. Just because I manage to keep myself to a higher standard doesn't mean I expect others to as well.

GoldenBoy89 · Jul 4, 2019

civilwarbuff said:
And you are certain that it is the parents opinion how?...….

The little girl says so in the Fox News interview she does and is linked in the OP. It was her dad and uncle's idea and they write out a script for her to say to the camera.

civilwarbuff · Jul 4, 2019

GoldenBoy89 said:
The internet is kind of a free for all. I've known this since I was like 12, over 15 years ago and have had free access to it since then. I blame people who should by now know better than to expect the internet world to respect their views or ideas like there's some sacred line that can't be crossed. Just because I manage to keep myself to a higher standard doesn't mean I expect others to as well.

Yeah, but we are talking about an 8yo here.....an 8 YEAR OLD!!!!!!!......and the left can't keep a civil tongue.

civilwarbuff · Jul 4, 2019

GoldenBoy89 said:
The little girl says so in the Fox News interview she does and is linked in the OP. It was her dad and uncle's idea and they write out a script for her to say to the camera.

Yeah, I missed that....thx.

GoldenBoy89 · Jul 4, 2019

civilwarbuff said:
Yeah, I missed that....thx.

Let me say, I find this girl adorable and think it should be okay for her to poke some fun at AOC. I think she's a great little actress and she reminds me of my niece's own silliness in her personality. I just don't think it appropriate for someone her age because unfortunately, this exposes her to some really awful people that are online.

Always in His Presence · Jul 4, 2019

DanishLutheran said:
The body count isn't the issue. The frequency, organization and fanaticism involved in harassing, threatening, and committing violence against anyone who isn't them, is.

It’s a poor statements on politics today.

In the 60’ those calling themselves democrats and siding with the Democratic Party dresses in white robes and hoods and used violence against opposing political viewpoints.

Today, those calling themselves Democrats and siding with the Democratic Party dress in black with black masks and hoodies and use violence against those who hold opposing political view points.

It seems the only thing that has changed is the color of the clothes

Regardless, they use violence and intimidation to silence people.

Tanj · Jul 4, 2019

civilwarbuff said:
And you are certain that it is the parents opinion how?...….

The interview with the 8 year old in which she stated it was her parents opinion (well, dad and uncle, who wrote the script for her, but close enough).

ETA: I see already answered by GB.

LoAmmi · Jul 4, 2019

civilwarbuff said:
Or is it that the left won't let even an 8yo express an opinion without feeling threatened?

There are something like 330 million people in the United States. Let's just go simplistic and cut it directly in half. So, 165 million people are on each side. How many people do you think are actually harassing anybody? I have a full time job, am a full time student, and have a number of other obligations in my life. I don't have time to go protest, send death threats, and all that kind of nonsense. I'm guessing most of the people on my side, "THE LEFT (DUN DUN DUNNNNNNN)" are the same way. So, you've got pockets of people who are jerks and who act like morons. Death threats? Do you know people sometimes just do it for kicks and aren't even taking a side? Trolls? It shouldn't have happened to this girl or anybody else, but geeze. I remember a few years ago with the nonsense GamerGate movement and people getting death threats from them and they were clearly not the left.

I hang out with mostly people of similar political opinion and none of us like violence.

Ok, well, we play DnD so fantasy violence is ok.

carlv_52 · Jul 4, 2019

DanishLutheran said:
No. Because antifa is having a much larger impact on public discourse than a few lone wolf nutjobs, who, mind you, are prosecuted and sentenced, unlike antifa.

Larger impact? Ummm, I'm guessing you are under 30 years of age? Because know this: THOSE OF US WHO LIVED THROUGH THOSE DARK DAYS seeing MURDERED CHILDREN being hauled out of the Murray Office building daycare center know what "real impact on the public discourse" looks like.

So no, nice try, but body count isn't the issue here. The issue is how antifa acts with impunity to threaten, doxx, otherwise harass, and brutally assault those they disagree with.

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carlv_52 · Jul 5, 2019

civilwarbuff said:
Yeah, but we are talking about an 8yo here.....an 8 YEAR OLD!!!!!!!......and the left can't keep a civil tongue.

You seem to think only the Left attacks people on the internet. That is strange. Have you been on the internet?

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