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Water canopy check, and mate!

Discussion in 'Creation & Evolution' started by dad, May 23, 2005.

  1. 235U92

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    Do you make these kinds of posts as a joke, Dad? Can you actually be this scientifically inept?
     
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  3. dad

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    Show me some science that precludes the complete universe? All you can show is an ineptness that is cosmically comical, if you try to limit all to the box.
     
  4. Praxiteles

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    And to Christianity than atheists ever could.

    lucaspa used to be fond of saying it: creationists are the militant atheists' best friends.
     
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  6. Douglaangu v2.0

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    But your only reason for thinking that a 'split' occured is that your interpretation of genesis violates the laws of physics, and that your intepretation cannot be wrong. So (in your mind) physics must be wrong.
     
  7. Battie

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    Nope, Dad, what I showed you was Hebrew. Other cultures had their variations of it, but this is the Hebrew cosmology you're looking at.
     
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    Now consider this formula well, as it contains a key of understanding that can help unlock real mysteries.
     
  9. dad

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    The part that said "the heaven of fire for greeks and others" must have threw me. It was not a bible based picture, as I can see? It is one interpretive leaning, that I doubt was embraced by those with the Spirit of God.
     
  10. Battie

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    What? This is precisely the vision you would have us believe! This is your firmament! Now all of a sudden it's not biblical?

    And it is found in the Bible. That's what the expanse in Genesis 1:6-8 is. The Hebrews did not understand science. This proves it.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "interpretive leaning." If think this picture is unique, it may help you to know that every picture of Hebrew cosmology I've seen resembles this, and this is the same cosmology that I learned in my ancient literature class. This is for real.
     
  11. Douglaangu v2.0

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    Except not ONCE has then been any solid evidence that it exists. Every single time someone is called out on it, they're shown to be frauds to mistaken.

    This is only your interpretation of what the bible says.
    And your metaphysic rantings are limited in that there is no actual evidence that what you say is true, only speculation and posturing.

    This is your evidence? This is your math to backup your claim?
    Come on, you can do better.

    You didn't adress my point.
    Is it possible that your interpreation (and thus your baseless conclusions) are wrong?


    And I suppose god himself told you that YOUR 'interpretive leaning' is the only correct one?

    Puhlease.
     
  12. dad

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    Makes you wonder who dishes this stuff out to schools.
     
  13. Battie

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    My Christian professor at my Christian college?

    Oh yes, my mind is being poisoned... o_O

    And again, Dad, why are you suddenly arguing against the very thing you were trying to prove? The Hebrews believed in a firmament just like the one you're talking about. Shouldn't you embrace that?
     
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  15. Douglaangu v2.0

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    Ah, but you see that is the correct one.
    Prove me wrong, I dare you.

    Hmm. I think I've got you pegged. You're no different from the average 'god-o-the-gaps' believer.
    Science cannot explain the supernatural, and people claim the supernatural exists (people claimed that god's caused natural disasters, which has been shown to be wrong), so therefore science can never explain the supernatural.
    Don't you think its a bit hasty think that, given the supernaturals track record?
     
  16. dad

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    Are you talking about the water canopy? Or is it some interpretation of a sort of metal nonsense type thing?
     
  17. Battie

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    Yes, I'm talking about your water canopy. The only reason anyone thinks that's plausible is that they misinterpret the cosmology of the ancient Hebrews.

    The graphic I showed you is the only support for your idea, and you yourself dismissed it as "paganistic hodgepodge."
     
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    Newsflash: the Earth is subject to the laws of physics.

    In essence: "Lots of people believe in God, and this supports my belief in the Vapor Canopy." Listen to what you're saying.

    You're still advocating an unsupported assertion, now you're just adding the appeal to numbers fallacy (and a non sequitur, at that) on top of it.
     
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  20. Douglaangu v2.0

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    Thats alot to type when you're saying "No".
    Strike One: You don't have anything beyond your own speculations.

    Out with it then. I should remind you that once you 'prove' the supernatural it ceases to be supernatural, and becomes natural.
    Strike Two: Again, your interpretation of the bible, which you have admited could be wrong. Sounds to me like your ideas are no more stable than the science you claim to be limited.



    You didn't even provide a forumula to test. Only your speculations and interpretation.
    Could you explain how E=MC2 would be changed by your idea?

    Thatta boy. It wasn't that hard was it?

    Sounds nice, but doesn't answer the question.
    Why is your interpretation correct, and others wrong?
    I wanna see some justification.
     
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