Washington governor to Idaho - stop clogging my hospitals

[Paulos23]

Washington governor to Idaho officials: Stop 'clogging up my hospitals'

While they are really his hospitals, he does have a point. Washington hospitals have been taking the overflow from Idaho and limiting the use of hospitals by Washington residents.

And it is not surprising when you have a doctor that calls the vaccine fake placed on the Idaho medical board. Idaho is not doing enough to limit the spread of COVID and it is affecting the states around it.

Dr. Ryan Cole's standing on health board elicits polarizing responses

 

[Hazelelponi]

This seems weird to me... is there really that many cases?

In my county we've had 24 now new COVID cases in the last two weeks, with zero hospitalizations and zero deaths, without any general mask mandate or anything like that.

Granted we are a smaller county but that is still only 0.05% of the population here and none so sick they need a hospital even though we have 3 hospitals servicing the county (beds are definitely available).

I find it very unbelievable that there are so many severe cases in Idaho of all places that they are filling up hospitals in neighboring states...regardless of what people there may think of the vaccine.

 

[rambot]

I find it very unbelievable that there are so many severe cases in Idaho of all places that they are filling up hospitals in neighboring states...regardless of what people there may think of the vaccine.

Being incredulous doesn't mean that he's lying though

Are you suggesting to governor is lying?

 

[Hazelelponi]

Being incredulous doesn't mean that he's lying though

Are you suggesting to governor is lying?

It's just a curiosity... it's not impossible for it to be true... just - really odd if it is. It's not like there's some massive major outbreak right now, and if there was, Idaho is about the last place you'd think would be affected. Does anyone actually go there?

 

[rambot]

It's just a curiosity... it's not impossible for it to be true... just - really odd if it is. It's not like there's some massive major outbreak right now, and if there was, Idaho is about the last place you'd think would be affected. Does anyone actually go there?

Fair enough.

I really liked Craters of the Moon when I was a kid. And...maybe it was called Fox Lake? I'm from Alberta and we visited a few times as a kid

 

[Hazelelponi]

Fair enough.

I really liked Craters of the Moon when I was a kid. And...maybe it was called Fox Lake? I'm from Alberta and we visited a few times as a kid

I've never been...

 

[Sparagmos]

Washington governor to Idaho officials: Stop 'clogging up my hospitals'

While they are really his hospitals, he does have a point. Washington hospitals have been taking the overflow from Idaho and limiting the use of hospitals by Washington residents.

And it is not surprising when you have a doctor that calls the vaccine fake placed on the Idaho medical board. Idaho is not doing enough to limit the spread of COVID and it is affecting the states around it.

Dr. Ryan Cole's standing on health board elicits polarizing responses

Oregon too! One of the reasons we had to bring in the national guard. Idahoans helped fill the ICU beds in eastern Oregon, sending Eastern Oregonians to Portland. We are 77% vaccinated in my county but the ICU beds are full of unvaccinated people from other counties with low vaccination rates.

 

[Sparagmos]

This seems weird to me... is there really that many cases?

In my county we've had 24 now new COVID cases in the last two weeks, with zero hospitalizations and zero deaths, without any general mask mandate or anything like that.

Granted we are a smaller county but that is still only 0.05% of the population here and none so sick they need a hospital even though we have 3 hospitals servicing the county (beds are definitely available).

I find it very unbelievable that there are so many severe cases in Idaho of all places that they are filling up hospitals in neighboring states...regardless of what people there may think of the vaccine.

Idaho has the lowest vaccination rate in the country.

Idaho's COVID Nightmare: Hospitals Set Crisis Standards Of Care
"Idaho is what a state looks like when it fails to flatten the curve. As in other Mountain States, beds are running out. In response to the crush of patients, which is not expected to slow anytime soon, the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare (DHW) last week activated crisis standards of care. When implemented by hospitals, these plans, first formulated in April 2020 with the hope they would rarely need to be used, help guide overwhelmed medical workers on how to ration scarce resources."

The crisis standards apply to all patients — not just those with COVID-19. “There are already many patients who’ve had to delay surgery or other treatments, and if you end up in a hospital, you may receive treatment in a waiting room or a hallway,” said DHW Director Dave Jeppesen. “Each nurse and doctor will be taking care of more patients than usual. You may have to wait much longer than normal for care. You may even have to be transferred to a care facility that could be hours away.”

 

[Davorah]

Washington hospitals have been taking the overflow from Idaho

It's true, it's heartbreaking and it's devastating. There is a death in our ICU daily. A death of a person with a life and a family, with hopes and dreams. I must leave my part of the discussion at that.

 

[rambot]

It's true, it's heartbreaking and it's devastating. There is a death in our ICU daily. A death of a person with a life and a family, with hopes and dreams. I must leave my part of the discussion at that.

I have friends and friend parents who work on ICUs here in Alberta. Same thing.

I offer up a huge high five to you. And I will send a prayer for strength.

 

[Yttrium]

Being incredulous doesn't mean that he's lying though

Are you suggesting to governor is lying?

I think he's stretching things.

The real problem here is that Spokane Washington and Coeur d'Alene Idaho are right across the border from each other. But Eastern Washington is much like Idaho, full of Trump enthusiasts and vax deniers. The Spokane hospitals would be filling up with or without Idaho's help.

 

[rambot]

For what it's worth, if you take a look at the COVID map you can see Idaho is FIRMLY have issues with the whole western portion of the state (while the eastern side seems to be having an easier time generally).
I DO think that states should be obliged to serve tehir own people first and foremost.

 

[rambot]

I think he's stretching things.

The real problem here is that Spokane Washington and Coeur d'Alene Idaho are right across the border from each other. But Eastern Washington is much like Idaho, full of Trump enthusiasts and vax deniers. The Spokane hospitals would be filling up with or without Idaho's help.

Sure. But then move the good people of Coeur D'Alene to another Idahoan city then....non?

 

[Yttrium]

For what it's worth, if you take a look at the COVID map you can see Idaho is FIRMLY have issues with the whole western portion of the state (while the eastern side seems to be having an easier time generally).

Well, yeah, the western side is where the bulk of the population is, including Boise.

 

[Yttrium]

Sure. But then move the good people of Coeur D'Alene to another Idahoan city then....non?

Would be nice, but Spokane is much closer.

 

[rambot]

Blue state carrying a red state again...

 

[Sparagmos]

Just saw this story and thought of this thread.

https://www.rawstory.com/vaccine-idaho/

 

[Hazelelponi]

Would be nice, but Spokane is much closer.

Most doctors don't like their patients going to another state for treatment, even if that state is closer than something in state.

Before we moved we were close to another state (closer than the same state) and when I was having problems and he was sending me to an ER, he absolutely didn't want me crossing the border of our state to do it. When I suggested it he said no, you need to stay in this state..

That might have something to do with medication and the reporting system or something, I dont know, but doctors do not like their patients attending another state for services, even during an emergency. They prefer the longer (depending on location) drive to something within the same state.

 

[Yttrium]

Most doctors don't like their patients going to another state for treatment, even if that state is closer than something in state.

Well, when it's 164 miles to the nearest decent-sized town in the same state, that's kinda rough. Gets even worse come Winter, since you have to drive over a long mountain pass that starts in Coeur d'Alene. Meanwhile, Spokane is an easy, flat drive.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Well, when it's 164 miles to the nearest decent-sized town in the same state, that's kinda rough. Gets even worse come Winter, since you have to drive over a long mountain pass that starts in Coeur d'Alene. Meanwhile, Spokane is an easy, flat drive.

Interesting... thanks for the explanation..