Was There a Pre-Adamic Race?

[squint]

That's one way of lookin' at it, for sure.

Me either if all it is, is "nothing more than a certain number of people with a cranial deformation."

And without considering the architecture associated with them, it's even less visible.

I heard that Kevin Costner discovered the crystal pyramids under the sea when he was swimming down there.

 

[Rick Otto]

I heard that Kevin Costner discovered the crystal pyramids under the sea when he was swimming down there.

Maybe that was in the movie "Dances with Squids"?

 

[squint]

Maybe that was in the movie "Dances with Squids"?

or was it WaterWolves?

 

[YeShallTread]

Certainly a debatable, unrequired and meaningless distinction:

Hosea 1:7
But I will have mercy upon the house of Judah, and will save them by the Lord their God, and will not save them by bow, nor by sword, nor by battle, by horses, nor by horsemen.

Hebrews 8:8
For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

I am waiting for your other shoe to drop upon the 'Jews.'

s

There is no shoe to drop. Just your wish for there to be one.

If you consider the FACT of the split in the tribes to be of no meaning...it displays your lack of understanding and wish to remain so. It also shows you wish to ignore many, many Scriptures dealing with the two houses.


Your choice.

 

[squint]

There is no shoe to drop. Just your wish for there to be one.

If you consider the FACT of the split in the tribes to be of no meaning

In the spiritual senses of that matter, yes, all of those things contain GREAT symbolism, types and shadows.

Does it have a single thing to do with genetics or race?

Uh, no. Not one DNA strand worth.

...it displays your lack of understanding and wish to remain so. It also shows you wish to ignore many, many Scriptures dealing with the two houses.

Yer just doin' chicken scratchin' so far.

What is the 'choice' that seems to be escaping me?

s

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by squint

Whether you term them Israelite lineage or or Jewish lineage the proposal observed is that it is a racial lineage regardless. The fact that you have split an Israelite lineage from a Jewish lineage is also telling.
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What is telling is that I know how to read Scripture. The tribes, all twelve, are Israel. Of those tribes is Judah...Ju-dah, Jew-dah. There is Israel and Israel is the [house of Israel and the house of Judah]. All are Israel but not all are Jews.

There is one lineage and two houses within the lineage...have ye not read?

Truth and understanding is what I hope to deliver.

And thou art delivering it well.

Tis a shame more Christians do not understand the House of Israel and House of Judah.
The House of Judah kept the priestly tribe of Levi and were the ones allowed to rebuild Solomon's Temple

John 2:20 The Judeans then say: "Forty and six to-years was built this Santuary/naoV <3485>, and Thou in three days shall be rousing/raising it"?

Lazarus and the Rich Man - Here a little, there a little - Commentary

LUKE 16:27 "Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house,
28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.' " (NKJV)

The fact that the rich man has five brothers is a vital clue to his true symbolic identity.
Judah, the progenitor of the Jews, was the son of Jacob through Leah (Gen. 29:35). He had five full-blooded brothers: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Issachar, and Zebulun (Gen. 35:23).

While the significance of this seemingly pointless detail has been neglected by scholars throughout the centuries, you can be certain that it did not escape the notice of the Pharisees and scribes to which Yeshua was speaking. They thoroughly knew their history and were extremely proud of their heritage. Yeshua wanted those self-righteous Pharisees to know exactly who he was referring to with this parable.

This detail cements the identity of the rich man as the House of Judah, the Jews!



.

 

[Tzaousios]

I think so....but then...I have eyes to see.

Of course you do! Why in the world would you admit not having the very thing that self-validates your views and interpretations?

 

[YeShallTread]

Of course you do! Why in the world would you admit not having the very thing that self-validates your views and interpretations?

Because I have not given you one "view or interpretation." I have given you scripture.

 

[Tzaousios]

Because I have not given you one "view or interpretation." I have given you scripture.

And the circle continues: "I merely repeat what Scripture plainly says."

 

[Godssontoo]

And God blesseth Noah, and his sons, and saith to them, 'Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the earth; Genesis 9:1


Strong's Hebrew: 4390. &#1502;&#1464;&#1500;&#1461;&#1488; (male or mala) — 253 Occurrences
Genesis 1:22
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NAS: and multiply, and fill the waters
KJV: and multiply, and fill the waters
INT: be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters the seas

Genesis 1:28
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NAS: and multiply, and fill the earth,
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INT: to them be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue

Genesis 6:11
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NAS: and the earth was filled with violence.
KJV: and the earth was filled with violence.
INT: the sight of God was filled and the earth violence

Genesis 6:13
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NAS: Me; for the earth is filled with violence
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INT: before for is filled the earth violence

Genesis 9:1
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NAS: and multiply, and fill the earth.
KJV: and multiply, and replenish the earth.
INT: to them be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth

Genesis 21:19
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NAS: and she went and filled the skin
KJV: and she went, and filled the bottle
INT: of water went and filled the skin water

Genesis 24:16
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NAS: to the spring and filled her jar
KJV: to the well, and filled her pitcher,
INT: went to the well and filled her jar and came

Genesis 25:24
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NAS: to be delivered were fulfilled, behold,
KJV: to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, [there were] twins
INT: were fulfilled her days to be delivered

Genesis 26:15
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NAS: stopped up by filling them with earth.
KJV: had stopped them, and filled them with earth.
INT: stopped the Philistines filling earth

Genesis 29:21
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NAS: for my time is completed, that I may go
KJV: for my days are fulfilled, that I may go in
INT: my wife for is completed my time may go

Genesis 29:27
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NAS: Complete the week of this one,
KJV: Fulfil her week,
INT: Complete the week her

Genesis 29:28
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NAS: so and completed her week,
KJV: did so, and fulfilled her week:
INT: Jacob so and completed her week and he

Genesis 42:25
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NAS: gave orders to fill their bags
KJV: commanded to fill their sacks
INT: gave Joseph to fill their bags grain

Genesis 44:1
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NAS: steward, saying, Fill the men's sacks
KJV: saying, Fill the men's
INT: his house saying Fill sacks the men's

Genesis 50:3
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NAS: days were required for it, for such
KJV: days were fulfilled for him; for so are fulfilled
INT: were required now forty days

Genesis 50:3
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NAS: is the period required for embalming.
KJV: were fulfilled for him; for so are fulfilled the days
INT: for such required is the period are embalmed

Exodus 1:7
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NAS: so that the land was filled with them.
KJV: and the land was filled with them.
INT: exceedingly exceedingly was filled the land for

Exodus 2:16
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NAS: to draw water and filled the troughs
KJV: and drew [water], and filled the troughs
INT: came to draw and filled the troughs to water

Exodus 7:25
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NAS: Seven days passed after the LORD
KJV: days were fulfilled, after
INT: passed Seven days

So your good at coping and pasting is that what all the verses are about , I use a KJV bible, cite any other bible you like but I am sure if God wanted us to have another bible the KJV would have been phased out by 1612 .

Again the word in question can and does mean replenish , you can argue all you want but that does not change the fact this word was used only twice and both times after the earth was made empty of man excluding those on the ark on one occasion .

 

[Godssontoo]

Well, yes, we were all in fact just treated to that fact. So you agree that the term is multifunctional and can apply to not only human males, but also evil and heavenly angels/messengers and also to God in Christ?



Oh, the replenish word. I think the applications of MALE understandings in the HEBREW are interesting and do not always mean what they mean in our languages. Fill is an accurate term. Fill may ALSO contain spiritual connotations. Not all 'filling' automatically means physical reproduction of the human species.



We should all certainly question ourselves on every matter. The Word is very interesting in that way. I might even add that those who do not learn to read the spiritual ends of the scales and only see hard line literal external meanings are very EASILY led down numerous dead end trails, even on purpose, even by THE HOLY SPIRIT.



I generally agree with that premise. From there it's a question of methods applied, which hopefully you'll get around to at some point?

?

s

It is evident you do not believe that God destroyed an earth in Genesis 1:2 from a complete dearth of Genesis 1:1 and will seek algorical interpretations to explain clear and concise scripture telling us this .

I already gave you one scripture John 3:13 so how about the Psalm of Moses , psalm 90:1-3 . Since God is not the author of confusion and any mistakes are mans bad interpretation how would you explain Isaiah 45:18 where God said He did not create the world in vain , He formed it to be inhabited . The word vain is the same word used in Genesis 1:2 where the earth was without form and void ( without form is the same word as vain ). That would be a contradiction and God does not contradict Himself.

 

[bornofGod888]

No it does not , why do you all have such a hard time understanding Gods Word and the simplicity it was written in , even though the bible was written in Hebrew and the translation of Genesis is lacking somewhat , the difference between the sixth day man, ADAM , which means man and the eigth day Adam is obvious .

The sixth day man who is called Adam is different from the Adam of Genesis 2:5 , if you read what God is saying to you it is very clear , God had not made a man to til the ground , a husbandman . God calls this Adam the father of all the living because Jesus would and did come from his bloodline and unless you're in Jesus, you are not living but spiritually dead . God is not the respect or of man in the flesh because we where originally spirit and the fall of Satan resulted in the flesh age.

The bottom line is unless you learn to pray in the spirit you will never understand spiritual things and looking at Gods word in the flesh, you will NEVER UNDERSTAND IT . God is not the author of confusion and science has already proven that mankind did not arise from two people , it is impossible for all the races to come from two people and that is confusion and not of God but Satan and his lies confusing you on e truth of God and His Word .

Where do you think Cain got his wife from when God cast him out of Eden ? Cain went to the land of Nod and met a sixth day creation and married her . If one does not understand the beginning how can one understand the end ?

What are you suggesting?

That I pray to become like you?

No, thanks...especially since you have no idea whatsoever as to what you're going on about.

 

[bornofGod888]

You use the term "we're" improperly. I only addressed you.

As I said many times in this thread....ALL RACES were created by the sixth day...and it was very good.

Actually, I used the term properly. You see, unlike you, I can actually recall what you've said. From your first post on this thread:

You have opened a very interesting topic...and a very deep subject. It is, I believe, something all children of God should understand but one so few are willing to search. As you do don't allow detractors to throw "racist" in your face for it isn't true...it is their security blanket, a blanket that covers their eyes allowing them to remain in a perpetual state of blindness.

Yeah, recalling nonsense and then refuting it with scripture is an affliction which I must bear...

Anyhow, although I've only read about 3 posts on this thread tonight, I've already had my fill of unbiblical error.

 

[squint]

The historical facts aren't to be seen symbolically.

Of course they are. Old Testament scripture anyway. They are categorically SYMBOLIC.

Was there a direct line from Adam to Jesus Christ?

OF COURSE. I accept the literal aspects of the narratives. But that doesn't mean that's ALL they are. There are mountains of SHADOWS and TYPES in the O.T.

Was that found within Israel? Sounds to me like the ruddy line of Adam led to the ruddy line of David who is the flesh ancestor of Jesus Christ. Genetics, DNA? I think so....but then...I have eyes to see.

See what? That Gods Word became flesh and dwelt among us? What does that have to do with anything other than the fact that He was HUMAN?

I'm giving you facts, which was what you mentioned several posts ago. So far....I have been right and yet no acknowledgment of your errors. The choice that is escaping you is that you choose to ignore Scripture dealing with the two houses. Instead, considering it meaningless and of no importance.

First of all you've provided no facts whatsoever of what it is you think you are trying to prove. So they tribes were SPLIT? SO WHAT? It's an obvious fact. You think it special for some reason that you noted it? Then you tried to 'carve away' JEWS, which is kind of a pet peeve for me as I very much detest that type of ATTEMPT. So I SHOWED your from scripture that GOD WILL IN FACT SAVE THEM TOO as well as the house of Israel. So what 'errors' you think you see in any of that you've yet to say.

eyes to see? spare me. When I quote that scripture, which I sometimes do, I try to put the EXACT TEXT and what it says along with the DYNAMIC of the matter and the only reason I EVER do it is in hope for a CHALLENGE to test what I THINK I'm seeing. Sort of like a PEER review on a casual basis in this type of forum. I'm also fairly decent at ripping holes through nonsense.

So if you want to put some meat on that substance bone you think yer chewin' on I'm still waiting.

s

 

[squint]

It is evident you do not believe that God destroyed an earth in Genesis 1:2 from a complete dearth of Genesis 1:1 and will seek algorical interpretations to explain clear and concise scripture telling us this .

There is NOTHING openly evident about the destruction of anything in the stretch between Gen 1:1 & 1:2.

If that is your claim then it's purely SPECULATIVE. Not that I'm against speculation in general, but there is certainly no hardline obvious destruction of a prior earth, no.

I already gave you one scripture John 3:13 so how about the Psalm of Moses , psalm 90:1-3 .

What is it you think you are proving by citing John 3:13?

As to Psalm 90:1-3, again, what exactly is it you are trying to get it to say?

That there was a prior earth, prior people? Get to it.

Since God is not the author of confusion

Again, who are you kidding? I know the scripture that says that. But there is also PLENTY of scripture showing that God DOES CONFUSE. So unless you have a good way to sort through those surface conflicts, citing 'God is not the Author of confusion' to justify your as yet largely undefined postulations are somewhat meaningless.

and any mistakes are mans bad interpretation how would you explain Isaiah 45:18 where God said He did not create the world in vain , He formed it to be inhabited .

Which means WHAT? The earth is obviously INHABITED.

I'm getting the distinct feeling that both you and your copart are parroting some other guy who has presumably a much better delivery system on what it is he/she is trying to say because neither of you seem to be able to put your finger on just what it is you think you're trying to prove.

The word vain is the same word used in Genesis 1:2 where the earth was without form and void ( without form is the same word as vain ). That would be a contradiction and God does not contradict Himself.

So what? The world is inhabited. That scripture doesn't change anything or mean that it wasn't inhabited then when it was written as it obviously WAS then too.

shakes head. patience dwindles

s

 

[Godssontoo]

There is NOTHING openly evident about the destruction of anything in the stretch between Gen 1:1 & 1:2.

If that is your claim then it's purely SPECULATIVE. Not that I'm against speculation in general, but there is certainly no hardline obvious destruction of a prior earth, no.



What is it you think you are proving by citing John 3:13?

As to Psalm 90:1-3, again, what exactly is it you are trying to get it to say?

That there was a prior earth, prior people? Get to it.


Again, who are you kidding? I know the scripture that says that. But there is also PLENTY of scripture showing that God DOES CONFUSE. So unless you have a good way to sort through those surface conflicts, citing 'God is not the Author of confusion' to justify your as yet largely undefined postulations are somewhat meaningless.



Which means WHAT? The earth is obviously INHABITED.

I'm getting the distinct feeling that both you and your copart are parroting some other guy who has presumably a much better delivery system on what it is he/she is trying to say because neither of you seem to be able to put your finger on just what it is you think you're trying to prove.



So what? The world is inhabited. That scripture doesn't change anything or mean that it wasn't inhabited then when it was written as it obviously WAS then too.

shakes head. patience dwindles

s

Ask yourself this and then I am done wasting pearls on you , how is that God knew Jerimiah before he was born and hated Esau also before he was born ? Like I said before you have been indoctrinated by the churches of man which for the most part are controlled by Satan . The traditions of man make Gods word void

. Oh and by the way there are , only a couple of places where God sends people strong delusion to believe a lie , God wishes only for all his children to be saved . I also have no copart as you state , I came to this site looking for fellow Christians to teach and be taught and for the most part I find modern day Pharasee and Saducee. One final piece of advice , judgement begins at the pulpit and this is your pulpit so make sure you have your facts straight . For many will stand in front of Jesus professing all they have done for him and Jesus will reply go away I never knew you .

 

[squint]

Ask yourself this and then I am done wasting pearls on you ,

I THINK you are trying to PROVE from the text that there were TWO SEPARATE ADAM'S.

And you also seem to think that the complete and utter lack of scriptural evidence for that means you get to pluck the matter out of thin air in the name of pearls and ears that hear.

I prefer to see it in writing rather than imagination.

how is that God knew Jerimiah before he was born and hated Esau also before he was born ?

What does that have to do with TWO ADAM'S???

Like I said before you have been indoctrinated by the churches of man which for the most part are controlled by Satan . The traditions of man make Gods word void

You are actually talking to about the only guy at this board who that wouldn't apply to. Nobody else would even have the patience to listen to (whatever it is) you are trying to convey.

I have no agendas from any 'churches of man.' rolls eyes...

. Oh and by the way there are , only a couple of places where God sends people strong delusion to believe a lie , God wishes only for all his children to be saved . I also have no copart as you state , I came to this site looking for fellow Christians to teach and be taught and for the most part I find modern day Pharasee and Saducee. One final piece of advice , judgement begins at the pulpit and this is your pulpit so make sure you have your facts straight . For many will stand in front of Jesus professing all they have done for him and Jesus will reply go away I never knew you .

I am an expert on all the quotes you are slinging out that your position is right as I've heard them used in just about every imaginable scenario...

The only thing you're missing is an actual point or two to attach to the hammer.

As stated prior, it appears to me that you were sold an idea of some sort, but can't really eloquently repeat it. And in the process of sale, the salesman used all those hammer texts to push it on you.

Don't feel bad. Christianity is filled with manipulating liars. How much have you invested in that story? (whatever it actually is?)

Get out of it while you have the chance. Or become a disciple of the person who sold it to you so you can at least repeat it accurately so others can understand it.

s

 

[bornofGod888]

To the OP:

I'm unsubscribing from this thread. I haven't even read the last several pages of posts on this thread, nor do I intend to. I've already documented that the Adam whose offspring is given in Genesis chapter 5 is the same exact Adam from Genesis chapter 1 and that is good enough for me. Hopefully, that reality has helped you in your quest for truth.

Unsubscribing...

 

[YeShallTread]

And the circle continues: "I merely repeat what Scripture plainly says."

The circle....study the words, allow they Holy Spirit to teach you the meaning, share that with others, and then have others (some will, some won't some can't) hear that meaning. Then the circle has been completed.

Proverbs 21:18 A false witness shall perish: but the man that heareth speaketh constantly.

Ezekiel 3:10-11 Moreover He said unto me, Son of man, all My words that I shall speak unto thee receive in thine heart, and hear with thine ear. And go, get thee to them of the captivity, unto the children of thy people, and speak unto them, and tell them, Thus saith the Lord God; whether they willhear, or whether they will forbear.

Ezekiel 3:27 But when I speak with thee, I will open thy mouth, and thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; He that heareth, let him hear; and he that forbeareth, let him forbear: for they are a rebellious house.

Matthew 10:27 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.
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As I quote Scripture to validate everything I say...I would ask you to provide an example of error. Or...provide an apology.

 

[YeShallTread]

YST - You use the term "we're" improperly. I only addressed you.

BOG - Actually, I used the term properly. You see, unlike you, I can actually recall what you've said. From your first post on this thread:

Originally Posted by YeShallTread

You have opened a very interesting topic...and a very deep subject. It is, I believe, something all children of God should understand but one so few are willing to search. As you do don't allow detractors to throw "racist" in your face for it isn't true...it is their security blanket, a blanket that covers their eyes allowing them to remain in a perpetual state of blindness.

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That was a broad brush remark and had no particular individual in mind...just the group that like to derail a topic they KNOW NOTHING ABOUT and ARE NOT WILLING TO LEARN ABOUT. If you wish to include yourself there...okay. However, I have also specifically referred to you in a certain way so to include others with the use of "we're" would be an improper use.

Yeah, recalling nonsense and then refuting it with scripture is an affliction which I must bear...

You have been unable to refute anything. You can't as it is true. What you bear is your inability to admit error. The "nonsense" your eyes see may be because you are a natural man? [1 Corinthians 2:14]

Anyhow, although I've only read about 3 posts on this thread tonight, I've already had my fill of unbiblical error.

LOL. I know you haven't recognized truths so must wonder what you consider unbiblical.