Was There a Pre-Adamic Race?

[Rick Otto]

heh heh. smacks lips in anticipation of sectarian strip mining. whatever will it be?

the easy guess? A. Murray/ShepChap

will it be divulged? revealed?

pending

What??
I haven't caught up on the thread yet, but I didn't see any proselytizing in that post.
Whatchyoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?

 

[ancientsoul]

Genesis 7:15,16 ... Noah enters the ark ... And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life. And they went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded Him: and the Lord shut him in.

flesh ... Hebrew 1320 ... basar ... from 1319 ... flesh (from it's freshness); by extens. body, person; also (by euphem.) the pudenda of a man: - body, [fat,lean] [-ed], kin, [man-] kind, + nakedness, self, skin

1319 ... to announce (glad news): - messenger, preach, publish, carry, tell, shew forth

these are not animals going in ... it says the people went in two by two ... all of them ... who went with Noah's sons?

 

[squint]

What??
I haven't caught up on the thread yet, but I didn't see any proselytizing in that post.
Whatchyoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?

It's usually the first conductor stop when it comes to christianity and races.

Zeke who posts here (haven't seen him in awhile) is a ShepChap guy, but it took me, seriously, 3 or 4 years to stroke it out of him into the open. He kept it well hidden.

s

 

[squint]

Genesis 7:15,16 ... Noah enters the ark ... And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life. And they went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded Him: and the Lord shut him in.

flesh ... Hebrew 1320 ... basar ... from 1319 ... flesh (from it's freshness); by extens. body, person; also (by euphem.) the pudenda of a man: - body, [fat,lean] [-ed], kin, [man-] kind, + nakedness, self, skin

1319 ... to announce (glad news): - messenger, preach, publish, carry, tell, shew forth

these are not animals going in ... it says the people went in two by two ... all of them ... who went with Noah's sons?

So how many people do you think went into the ark?

(feels the thread starting to fill)

 

[Godssontoo]

It's usually the first conductor stop when it comes to christianity and races.

Zeke who posts here (haven't seen him in awhile) is a ShepChap guy, but it took me, seriously, 3 or 4 years to stroke it out of him into the open. He kept it well hidden.

s

You know what's funny ? is you sit there , assume and then judge according to your worldly views and yes that is exactly your attitude , you judge ,the bible is clear and if it says the whole world will follow after Satan then how do expect to escape the great apostasy coming ? Will you be raptured before the tribulation ?

 

[ancientsoul]

So how many people do you think went into the ark?

(feels the thread starting to fill)

didn't ask how many ... and don't care ... i asked who went two by two with with Noah's sons ...

 

[Rick Otto]

OK, if you are saying that 'your' two Adam theory means Adam and Jesus, fine. That does not explain TWO ADAMS in the creation narrative unless you define ONE RACE that is HEAVENLY and all the other races, not.

I'm seein' it as no different than God's intentions in having "a chosen race", & yet as Paul said re: DNA not making a spiritual difference soteriologicaly,"Not all who are of Israel are Israel."

 

[Godssontoo]

OK, if you are saying that 'your' two Adam theory means Adam and Jesus, fine. That does not explain TWO ADAMS in the creation narrative unless you define ONE RACE that is HEAVENLY and all the other races, not.

It is not my two Adam theory , it's what is written inthe bible . God worked for six days rested the seventh . Now chapter two which clearly says God had finished that work but he did not have a man to til the ground and here he is and these are the generations of this man to til the ground not the sixth day man .


By the way what does God mean by telling man to replenish the earth in Genesis 1:28?that would mean the earth was full before . The word used for replenish is the same word God used when Noah got off the arc and it is the only two times it is used in the bible .while you are at it explain Jeremiah 4:23-28 KJV please?

 

[YeShallTread]

Originally Posted by YeShallTread

As I said many times in this thread....ALL RACES were created by the sixth day...and it was very good.
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squint;64292321]That is entirely presumption.

Only to those that don't want to see, even those with a great big blue/green eye.


1. Are there races?
2. Did all races come from one man?
3. Were or were not all things that were made and created finished by the sixth day?

 

[squint]

It is not my two Adam theory , it's what is written inthe bible . God worked for six days rested the seventh . Now chapter two which clearly says God had finished that work but he did not have a man to til the ground and here he is and these are the generations of this man to til the ground not the sixth day man .

Well, you are kind of dodging my questions, which is understandable.

I asked you a very specific question. IF you have TWO ADAMS, then only one of them is thee HEAVENLY RACE, and I'm asking you what RACE that was? Or you may divulge WHICH RACES it wasn't.

and we can go on from there. Otherwise I'm going to keep charging you with avoidance.

By the way what does God mean by telling man to replenish the earth in Genesis 1:28?that would mean the earth was full before . The word used for replenish is the same word God used when Noah got off the arc and it is the only two times it is used in the bible .

I'm already on record here for creation prior to Adam and that does not preclude a history of creation prior to Adam or our existing creation. I don't think the narrative eliminates that at least as a possibility nor do hard archeological records.

Not that it affects my 'theology' positions. I think that is somewhat irrelevant to where we are at in the 'here and now' zone of this present age.

while you are at it explain Jeremiah 4:23-28 KJV please?

Personally I believe that speaks to the end of the story of this present age. It is NOT a past narrative. That same narrative is picked up by many of the prophets, i.e. leveling hills/mountains, straightening paths...etc etc.

but you might also understand that in the narratives of the prophets a mountain is not a physical mountain, a hill is not a physical hill and darkness is not physical darkness. These are all speakings in the similitude category and mean nearly nothing to the literal external senses of the matters.

Psalm 98:8
Let the floods clap their hands: let the hills be joyful together

Isaiah 55:12
For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.

Psalm 114:4
The mountains skipped like rams, and the little hills like lambs.

Psalm 114:6
Ye mountains, that ye skipped like rams; and ye little hills, like lambs?

I might even suggest that we are in for yet another flood and if one is not ON THE HOLY MOUNTAIN they will not survive.

but that statement has zero to do with a LITERAL FLOOD or a LITERAL HOLY MOUNTAIN. dig?

and in fact it will be much more powerful and destructive. Like an 'earthquake' but without the literal earth actually quaking as in ground underneath our feet that we are standing upon.

s

 

[YeShallTread]

No it does not , why do you all have such a hard time understanding Gods Word and the simplicity it was written in , even though the bible was written in Hebrew and the translation of Genesis is lacking somewhat , the difference between the sixth day man, ADAM , which means man and the eigth day Adam is obvious .

The sixth day man who is called Adam is different from the Adam of Genesis 2:5 , if you read what God is saying to you it is very clear , God had not made a man to til the ground , a husbandman . God calls this Adam the father of all the living because Jesus would and did come from his bloodline and unless you're in Jesus, you are not living but spiritually dead . God is not the respect or of man in the flesh because we where originally spirit and the fall of Satan resulted in the flesh age.

The bottom line is unless you learn to pray in the spirit you will never understand spiritual things and looking at Gods word in the flesh, you will NEVER UNDERSTAND IT . God is not the author of confusion and science has already proven that mankind did not arise from two people , it is impossible for all the races to come from two people and that is confusion and not of God but Satan and his lies confusing you on e truth of God and His Word .

Where do you think Cain got his wife from when God cast him out of Eden ? Cain went to the land of Nod and met a sixth day creation and married her . If one does not understand the beginning how can one understand the end ?

Well...hello Godsontoo. A pleasure to meet you.

Indeed. When we understand the beginning we see so much. The spiritual aspects are astounding but one must be blessed spiritually to see. The Spirit speaks privately to those that are willing for Him to teach.

Luke 10:23 And he turned him unto His disciples, and said privately, Blessed are the eyes which see the things that ye see:
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[Fireinfolding]

It is not my two Adam theory , it's what is written inthe bible . God worked for six days rested the seventh . Now chapter two which clearly says God had finished that work but he did not have a man to til the ground and here he is and these are the generations of this man to til the ground not the sixth day man .


By the way what does God mean by telling man to replenish the earth in Genesis 1:28?that would mean the earth was full before . The word used for replenish is the same word God used when Noah got off the arc and it is the only two times it is used in the bible .while you are at it explain Jeremiah 4:23-28 KJV please?

Actually thats a good one to consider, and definately by far the best one brought forward to further examine, which beats the whole tude I see and you dont approach, and the antagonizing one another with how splendid our own sight is verses others so called blindness.

Because that always works wonders as you can see.

 

[Rick Otto]

The black parents shocked when their son was born white with blond hair


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[squint]

Only to those that don't want to see, even those with a great big blue/green eye.


1. Are there races?
2. Did all races come from one man?
3. Were or were not all things that were made and created finished by the sixth day?

I have specifically asked the other guy and am asking you here and now WHO is the HEAVENLY RACE and WHICH ARE NOT?

Since you are so cocksure that there are MULTIPLE RACES in the creation narrative and that some may differentiate from the others....

LET'S GET ON WITH THE DIVIDING with some facts, shall we?

?

s

 

[YeShallTread]

heh heh. smacks lips in anticipation of sectarian strip mining. whatever will it be?

the easy guess? A. Murray/ShepChap

will it be divulged? revealed?

pending

It's funny Squint but just as the cry of racism is used to keep folks from learning....your "easy guess" is used for the same purpose. That's such a liberal tactic to use. You wouldn't be a democrat..would you?

 

[YeShallTread]

The black parents shocked when their son was born white with blond hair​

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1. Switched at birth.
2. The mama told a big fat lie to daddy.
3. A throwback in the genetic line.
4. An albino

 

[YeShallTread]

I have specifically asked the other guy and am asking you here and now WHO is the HEAVENLY RACE and WHICH ARE NOT?

Since you are so cocksure that there are MULTIPLE RACES in the creation narrative and that some may differentiate from the others....

LET'S GET ON WITH THE DIVIDING with some facts, shall we?

?

s

The heavenly race? What is a "heavenly race?"

Yes, I'm certain there are multiple races because I see multiple races...don't you?

What facts would you like to be divided?

 

[Godssontoo]

Well...hello Godsontoo. A pleasure to meet you.

Indeed. When we understand the beginning we see so much. The spiritual aspects are astounding but one must be blessed spiritually to see. The Spirit speaks privately to those that are willing for Him to teach.

Luke 10:23 And he turned him unto His disciples, and said privately, Blessed are the eyes which see the things that ye see:
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Thank you for the compliment but I will add that many see us as the blind and deaf . Sowing seeds amongst fellow Christians is hard , at best . We could take a church trained Christian and an atheist that never read the bible or heard the word and the athirst would understand first , not agreeing because of their beliefs but undstanding the sentence and story line .

 

[YeShallTread]

let's get the other shoe off...the other races are NOT spiritual?


s

Someone being spiritual has nothing to do with what race one is. Get off the race thing. It is of no value...no one cares.

To see spiritually is to understand. It is to have one's eyes and ears opened by the Spirit of God to understand scripture. That happens when one crucifies one's ego...and not until:

 

[YeShallTread]

Disinformation for every shade of bias can be found on both sides of the issue.
Archeological facts establish the presence of giants and some elongated skulls under some of those Egyptian pharoah hats. Regardless of arguments over dating methods, super-advanced technology is abundantly evidenced by stone architecture of super weight with vitrified surfaces & joints fitted 'impossibly' tight.

Impossibly is the right description!

Rather than see this as a challenge to any scriptural truth, I see it as a challenge to my personal perspective.

At this point in the discussion, I'd like to visit the Hebrew on the difference between "formed" & created because I think the distinction may be significant in that it seems to correlate with both the facts on the table & the entirely plausible intent proposed that Adam is the begining of a redemptive lineage.

A redemptive lineage. Well phrased and I'm in total agreement.