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I've gotten control over some of my obsessive thoughts, but, it's easier to go along with them then to worry.

I hear you:) I have obsessive thoughts & panic attacks. So it is often easier to run from the situation then to feel the dreadful physical symptoms that one has little control over:sigh:
 
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Got to chime in here: I know a lot of people who bite their nails - me included, due to anxiety. Actually, I have been biting my nails since I was three so it's just like breathing...how weired.

I wrote about my lil' three year old already having OCD symptoms (horrible genetics of OCD, Bipolar, ADHD, LD, Anxiety (SAD), Depression...etc in my family and my husbands...poor child). Just reading your obsessions makes me think about my child. For about six months (stopped about two months ago), he would place his cheek against my cheek (or someone elses) the onto the other side, then do it again...it was two times on each side - then give me a kiss. It was like he learning it some where yet he never did. He had to do this each time or he would get really stressed out. Interesting. He is really into making sure the cabinets are straight (the edges). We live in an apt (first time in his life) and the apt is broken...cabinets, bathtub, etc....very interesting. Hummmm... Oh, he can't count from 1 to 10 straight; it always has to be by threes 123, 6, 9, 12....where in the world did he learn this from??? 12?

Really, it seems like OCD, Bipolar and in some circumstances ADHD are all related in some way. The symptoms seem to overlap. Does anyone else find this??
 
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Got to chime in here: I know a lot of people who bite their nails - me included, due to anxiety. Actually, I have been biting my nails since I was three so it's just like breathing...how weired.

I wrote about my lil' three year old already having OCD symptoms (horrible genetics of OCD, Bipolar, ADHD, LD, Anxiety (SAD), Depression...etc in my family and my husbands...poor child). Just reading your obsessions makes me think about my child. For about six months (stopped about two months ago), he would place his cheek against my cheek (or someone elses) the onto the other side, then do it again...it was two times on each side - then give me a kiss. It was like he learning it some where yet he never did. He had to do this each time or he would get really stressed out. Interesting. He is really into making sure the cabinets are straight (the edges). We live in an apt (first time in his life) and the apt is broken...cabinets, bathtub, etc....very interesting. Hummmm... Oh, he can't count from 1 to 10 straight; it always has to be by threes 123, 6, 9, 12....where in the world did he learn this from??? 12?

Really, it seems like OCD, Bipolar and in some circumstances ADHD are all related in some way. The symptoms seem to overlap. Does anyone else find this??

They do.
I've got ADD, panic disorder, SAD....symptoms mainly. & with all this stress it's easy to feel down don't you know.
& I pray constantly for my little 'un, bcause he has anxiety disorders in his family too. He takes Ritalin for ADD.

There is a term..those seem to change frequently in med..called anxiety spectrum & these disorders fall along it. Probably have added more sense I read about it last. Did more reading years ago, bcause it didn't seem that some of the professionals I sought knew as much about the symptoms as I did at the time.
But there is a massive difference between studying them, talking to those who have them & really listening, & living them:sigh:
 
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Yep, you sound like me. Since I was dx with SAD (pretty bad), the a neurologist and psychiatrist both stated I was on the lower end of the bipolar II spectrum, however, since I have some of the other symptoms across the wide variety of disorders - I think it makes more sense to say I fall within the Anxiety spectrum. I guess it doesn't really matter as long as we advocate for ourselves and what our body needs. I completely understand the docs not understanding what we are telling them and feeling like you know more....isn't that extremely frustrating?

Isn't it sad when genetics rears its ugly head on our lil' ones. I just pray my son doesn't get ADD like I had/have. He already shows some of the OCD signs as mentioned before. If he does, I guess it will still all make sense.

All we can do is pray. Thanks for responding.
 
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Yep, you sound like me. Since I was dx with SAD (pretty bad), the a neurologist and psychiatrist both stated I was on the lower end of the bipolar II spectrum, however, since I have some of the other symptoms across the wide variety of disorders - I think it makes more sense to say I fall within the Anxiety spectrum. I guess it doesn't really matter as long as we advocate for ourselves and what our body needs. I completely understand the docs not understanding what we are telling them and feeling like you know more....isn't that extremely frustrating?

Isn't it sad when genetics rears its ugly head on our lil' ones. I just pray my son doesn't get ADD like I had/have. He already shows some of the OCD signs as mentioned before. If he does, I guess it will still all make sense.

All we can do is pray. Thanks for responding.
Yes!

Happy too.

Sorry you're down in the trenches with me;) but it is always a relief to know others understand where you're coming from.
I saw that you had neurological work up if I may...what was that like? If you need to Pm me please do:)
My councilor who was a nurse bfore getting his master's & he asked if I had had any tests like that run. Bcause I told Jim I had so much frustration in public as my physical symptoms have become very visible( & he has seen them too).
I quit buying the bunk that they weren't visible according to other professionals (me Im talking about mind you) years ago personally. Well anyway...don't know if my insurance would cover it, but in my never ending quest to get free I had to ask if ya don't mind.

God bless you & grant you peace, endow you with wisdom & patience as you work through your own issues & your son's:hug: Sis'
 
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I was diagnosed with OCD three months ago. I have been like it for years I say my pryaers a certain number of times before I can go to bed. I have a big phobia of dirt so I clean it takes up alot of my day and I have to have things in either alphabetical order or in size order otherwize I cant stand it, But I also have Agrophobia. So I am scared to leave the flat which I have to do sometimes because I run a business but mostly on ebay and when I go to church but I have to take Diazapam which makes me dosile and drowsy so I feel like I am not being as assertive as I can as business owner or as atentive as I can in church. So if you have any advice for me it is all welcome.
 
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In answer to gracechicks questions. Basically it has been a very long hard road probably like the rest of you.

First, I saw an ad in the local newpaper looking for people who thought they had SAD or have been dx with it. Living in Seattle, a lot of people have at least some symptoms of SAD, but I always knew mine was worse as I was barely able to function in fall and winter. The research was done through the UofW. The research was a double blind placebo using "fake" or "real" light boxes. The doctor nor the participant knew whether or not the participant was on the "placebo" or real thing. The "carrot" was that at the end of the 8 week research study, you got a free light box...every person's dream who suffers from SAD as these light boxes were the top of the line:) To see if I was eligible, I was given a pretty in-depth screener and then was approved for the study.

For the study, I was required to wake up at 5:00 am every morning. I had a dawn simulator that was supposed to wake me up. Then I had to sit in front of a light box for 30 minutes (I think - it was 10 years ago). I only lasted for 2 weeks until my grades started to fall drastically and I became extremely depressed - very untypical of my usual just extremely tired behavior (probably moderately depressed but didn't feel really sad - possibly subconcious??) . This study was conducted in the middle of serious SAD time - winter time. The doctor encouraged me to continue because "if" my light box was placebo, then my data would have been extremely helpful to add to their study as I was HORRIBLE! I felt so bad but I had no choice but to break the study. I told the doctor that I was CERTAIN that the lightbox I had was a placebo based on the way I was feeling. At that moment, he checked because he didn't know either...sure enough, a placebo light - strange that there is actually a placebo light. He was so disappointed and to this day I will never forget the look on his face when he found out as my data was so good for further research into SAD. He told me during that time that I was on the severe end of the spectrum.

I moved to WA DC for grad. school (SAD still there). I was tested for ADHD... I always had the symptoms but never thought to get tested. I was initially tested by a Clinical Psychologist on my campus. I was given a few neurological assessments that tested my impulse control using computerized instruments...it was good. I was also given a few other tests. I am a school psychologist now and the testing that they used was very different compared to what we give - definitely more thorough. I saw a psychiatrist who read over my report, took my background history, listened to what happened at the U of W SAD research study and thought I had the symptoms related to mild bipolar II (of course I didn't believe Bipolar at the time). He also suspected mild OCD as well (obsessive thoughts - not the typical compulsions). He gave me Depokote which made me more depressed and put me too sleep. He then said I wasn't bipolar based on my interaction with this one drug.

For the next 8 years, I was still on this roller coaster ride between severe anxiety to extreme fatigue in addition to ADD. The last five years I live in AZ (not counting last year where I lived in OH). In AZ, I was more stable due to the sun...but strangly enough I did still cycle...mildly I guess.

My last year in AZ, I decided to call a sleep specialist and get me tested. My first sleep specialist was a physician who was more of a pulmonary specialist, not a neurologist (pulmonary sleep specialists are important due to sleep apnea and other disorders that could cause sleep problems - my narrowed understanding). I was hooked up to electrodes and was tested over night and during the day. The testing was examined and discovered that my body hardly had any stage three or four sleep (I think it's right before REM). It was described to me that that was the probable reason why I had fibromylgia symptoms because your physical body (I don't know about brain), basically repairs it self during this stage. I also had at least 150 sleep arousal during the night which meant my body suddenly woke up - I didn't know it but it was seen in my brain wave activity. I had another sleep test in OH and it showed very different results. I did have the same amount of sleep arousals but had absolutely NO stage three or four sleep. It also showed I had no REM sleep whereas the other test showed I had too much (which I heard could be a symptom of Narcolepsy - going from stage one to stage four sleep too quickly). Again, I am NO expert so take what I say lightly until you do the research. Both, however, agreed that I had cycles and that my fibromylgia symptoms, anxiety, ADD symptoms and cycles may be related, at least slightly, to my sleep problems. The sleep specialist in OH was a neurologist who had additional training in sleep disorders. He stated that if you have similar problems that I had, it's better to go to a neurologist than a pulmonary specialist as he is better able to tease out other problems.

I was seeing a psychiatrist at the time and they worked extremely close together. The information they both gathered was very beneficial to helping me....the problem...I was a difficult case and they both agreed. The psychiatrist now had a backup and physical proof...my brainwave activity during sleep. The Lamictal has worked wonders although I still can't fall asleep very well at night.

In AZ, there was also a place that hooked you up to electrodes (basically they were glued on your head - not dangerous), and had you do various cognitive tasks. By doing this, they are able to see which areas light up. According to them, they could tell by the areas that light up if it's depression, anxiety, ADHD....I am still confused at how you can tell depression looking at what is being tapped into during a cognitive test...seems confusing. So, there are various tests that can be done now. The "physical proof" is so hard to proof, but I believe a sleep assessment could show something which would armor you with the actual proof you need. If you see a neurologist who specializes in sleep disorders, at least they can look at your brain wave activity. I am sure there is other things that can be done: the tricky part is finding the right neurologist.

I wonder if there is anyway to get proof regarding OCD. I could be completely wrong here, again, but I remember that OCD is actually in your hypocampus (maybe...correct me someone, please), and your brain literally gets caught in a loop making it close to impossible to get out of that cycle of thinking. I maybe thinking of bipolar instead.

Some doctors do actually listen. If any of your are experiencing somatic symptoms (physcial complaints), you never know. The phsycial symptoms may vey well be related to sleep. Although, I know it maybe related to other things as well. There are many variables.

Neuropsychologists can do very indepth testing....they can also refer you to someone who specializes in an area that they may not have enough knowledge in. Usually neurologist in university settings are good from my experience. Anyways, God bless and I hope that we all get answers soon! I am so happy that I am able to have the proof that my pain has a cause!!! I don't feel as crazy anymore.
 
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I do things in multiples of 3. Symmetry is a must if possible. I clean repeatedly because I don't think its clean enough after the first time. Things on the floor bother me. Things being out of order bother me too. like alphabetizing movies, and shoes and shirts in certain order, and I count them too. I have to recheck 3 times to make sure the lighs are turned off when I leave, and candle is blown out, and door is locked. That is all I can think of right now, but there may be more.
 
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In answer to gracechicks questions. Basically it has been a very long hard road probably like the rest of you.

First, I saw an ad in the local newpaper looking for people who thought they had SAD or have been dx with it. Living in Seattle, a lot of people have at least some symptoms of SAD, but I always knew mine was worse as I was barely able to function in fall and winter. The research was done through the UofW. The research was a double blind placebo using "fake" or "real" light boxes. The doctor nor the participant knew whether or not the participant was on the "placebo" or real thing. The "carrot" was that at the end of the 8 week research study, you got a free light box...every person's dream who suffers from SAD as these light boxes were the top of the line:) To see if I was eligible, I was given a pretty in-depth screener and then was approved for the study.

For the study, I was required to wake up at 5:00 am every morning. I had a dawn simulator that was supposed to wake me up. Then I had to sit in front of a light box for 30 minutes (I think - it was 10 years ago). I only lasted for 2 weeks until my grades started to fall drastically and I became extremely depressed - very untypical of my usual just extremely tired behavior (probably moderately depressed but didn't feel really sad - possibly subconcious??) . This study was conducted in the middle of serious SAD time - winter time. The doctor encouraged me to continue because "if" my light box was placebo, then my data would have been extremely helpful to add to their study as I was HORRIBLE! I felt so bad but I had no choice but to break the study. I told the doctor that I was CERTAIN that the lightbox I had was a placebo based on the way I was feeling. At that moment, he checked because he didn't know either...sure enough, a placebo light - strange that there is actually a placebo light. He was so disappointed and to this day I will never forget the look on his face when he found out as my data was so good for further research into SAD. He told me during that time that I was on the severe end of the spectrum.

I moved to WA DC for grad. school (SAD still there). I was tested for ADHD... I always had the symptoms but never thought to get tested. I was initially tested by a Clinical Psychologist on my campus. I was given a few neurological assessments that tested my impulse control using computerized instruments...it was good. I was also given a few other tests. I am a school psychologist now and the testing that they used was very different compared to what we give - definitely more thorough. I saw a psychiatrist who read over my report, took my background history, listened to what happened at the U of W SAD research study and thought I had the symptoms related to mild bipolar II (of course I didn't believe Bipolar at the time). He also suspected mild OCD as well (obsessive thoughts - not the typical compulsions). He gave me Depokote which made me more depressed and put me too sleep. He then said I wasn't bipolar based on my interaction with this one drug.

For the next 8 years, I was still on this roller coaster ride between severe anxiety to extreme fatigue in addition to ADD. The last five years I live in AZ (not counting last year where I lived in OH). In AZ, I was more stable due to the sun...but strangly enough I did still cycle...mildly I guess.

My last year in AZ, I decided to call a sleep specialist and get me tested. My first sleep specialist was a physician who was more of a pulmonary specialist, not a neurologist (pulmonary sleep specialists are important due to sleep apnea and other disorders that could cause sleep problems - my narrowed understanding). I was hooked up to electrodes and was tested over night and during the day. The testing was examined and discovered that my body hardly had any stage three or four sleep (I think it's right before REM). It was described to me that that was the probable reason why I had fibromylgia symptoms because your physical body (I don't know about brain), basically repairs it self during this stage. I also had at least 150 sleep arousal during the night which meant my body suddenly woke up - I didn't know it but it was seen in my brain wave activity. I had another sleep test in OH and it showed very different results. I did have the same amount of sleep arousals but had absolutely NO stage three or four sleep. It also showed I had no REM sleep whereas the other test showed I had too much (which I heard could be a symptom of Narcolepsy - going from stage one to stage four sleep too quickly). Again, I am NO expert so take what I say lightly until you do the research. Both, however, agreed that I had cycles and that my fibromylgia symptoms, anxiety, ADD symptoms and cycles may be related, at least slightly, to my sleep problems. The sleep specialist in OH was a neurologist who had additional training in sleep disorders. He stated that if you have similar problems that I had, it's better to go to a neurologist than a pulmonary specialist as he is better able to tease out other problems.

I was seeing a psychiatrist at the time and they worked extremely close together. The information they both gathered was very beneficial to helping me....the problem...I was a difficult case and they both agreed. The psychiatrist now had a backup and physical proof...my brainwave activity during sleep. The Lamictal has worked wonders although I still can't fall asleep very well at night.

In AZ, there was also a place that hooked you up to electrodes (basically they were glued on your head - not dangerous), and had you do various cognitive tasks. By doing this, they are able to see which areas light up. According to them, they could tell by the areas that light up if it's depression, anxiety, ADHD....I am still confused at how you can tell depression looking at what is being tapped into during a cognitive test...seems confusing. So, there are various tests that can be done now. The "physical proof" is so hard to proof, but I believe a sleep assessment could show something which would armor you with the actual proof you need. If you see a neurologist who specializes in sleep disorders, at least they can look at your brain wave activity. I am sure there is other things that can be done: the tricky part is finding the right neurologist.

I wonder if there is anyway to get proof regarding OCD. I could be completely wrong here, again, but I remember that OCD is actually in your hypocampus (maybe...correct me someone, please), and your brain literally gets caught in a loop making it close to impossible to get out of that cycle of thinking. I maybe thinking of bipolar instead.

Some doctors do actually listen. If any of your are experiencing somatic symptoms (physcial complaints), you never know. The phsycial symptoms may vey well be related to sleep. Although, I know it maybe related to other things as well. There are many variables.

Neuropsychologists can do very indepth testing....they can also refer you to someone who specializes in an area that they may not have enough knowledge in. Usually neurologist in university settings are good from my experience. Anyways, God bless and I hope that we all get answers soon! I am so happy that I am able to have the proof that my pain has a cause!!! I don't feel as crazy anymore.
Yes, you can get proof by having a PET scan. The book Brain Lock(a couple dollars on half.com) shows the difference between and ocders brain and a normal brain...very encouraging.
 
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OCD my current ocd of 9 yrs is the strong compulsion that a curse will be put on my son, by the curse going thru my mind. The worst curses that could be imagined. Of horrible harm coming to my beloved son by kidnappers, and the worst possible scenarios of the worst things happening to him having to be part of the curse. If I do do the curse in my mind, after several months of fighting the words going thru my mind. My mind won't stop, it goes over again and says, this curse is just like a prayer, it didn't work that time possibly, but next time it will go into the curse pile, and it will work just like the the "persistant widow", and the "keep on asking" scriptures. And the torment can begin all over again with me having to try to try to mentally block the curse, by applying all my mental energies. The latest twist of 3 years is my older son has become the trigger. His presense increases the intensity of the attack. Thus alienating me from him. So I am effectively alienated and tortured from the two I love so much in the world. My whole life has been ruined. But I could live with that. It is just the present torture I can't live with. Before that it was fear and trying to prevent the words, "I give my soul to the devil" from going thru my mind. Stalag
 
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I too have to check and re check to see if i locked my doors and when i get out of my car if i dont say out loud 'keys in purse, keys in purse" im terrified that i will lock my keys in the car! frustrating, but on a lighter note at least i wont lock my keys in my car...(i hope) and there are some other small things but im not sure if its a bi-polar thing or ocd.
 
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I had never heard of OCD till a few days ago...My husband and I were watching TV and watched as my life was described to a "T"...Frightening! So no diagnosis but I definately do some strange things...

I'm a perfectionist and if it isn't perfect or I fail to make it perfect, then it just won't get done..Until theres like someone at the door and I run through with a garbage bag..My mother used to do this..

Actually the woman on tv showed her new pk of pantyhose that she'd put away..They were perfect and could be put away while everything else was all over the place....So I then got up and stepped over a basket of laundry and slid some more laundry that sat wringled on top of the dresser, to show my husband my newly bought pk of pantyhose that sat neatly in a drawer...ahhhhhhhhhh!!!

Then there's the rituals and the constant rechecking,washing,moving...I lay out everything possibly needed before I do something, such as cooking a meal or taking a shower..I'll step out of a shower several times to ensure that I have everything I could possibly need in any event taking place in that shower...And there is no stopping in the midst of cooking to find a utensil or a spice...Its just not acceptable..

I check stoves,irons,window and door locks repeatedly..I can't sleep without rechecking a door lock that I'd just locked before going to bed..I'm constanly changing my kitchen cabinets...My husband can never find a bowl or snack because I move them every few days to "organize"...I do the same with furniture...Poor man can't even find his socks half the time..

Then I have a very very very hard time giving anything away...Not necessarily because I might need it (though I do that too) but because this scrap of paper was given to me out of love by so and so..The moment I throw it away, so and so will surely die...Then when I NEED something from so and so to treasure, I won't have it...

I've lost several people in my life so this is a constant battle...It seems if I part with one single thing from someone they die the next day...

Then ofcourse it was trash day...I have gone dumpster diving in search for that something to hold onto but its never there...

So whatcha think? Am I crazy,weird, or possibly ocd?
 
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I am not sure I am oc but whatever I am intent on I get very intense over. I am at this moment obsessed with a relationship (not sexual but with a woman) and find it difficult to break free of.
I also am intense about doing my job and nearly everything I do.
I never go to bed without a ritual of checking all doors and locks.
 
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Although I've never been officially diagnosed I do have a number of ticks and have had a few doctors suggest I should seek help about it.

For me I put all my stress and worry onto something I can't control. For years it was diseases. Every time I got a cough I thought I would be dying of cancer and then I would spend all my time reading and looking online about the topic. About two years the disease fear stopped and then I learned about peak oil theory which has become an obsession. I HAVE to look at the news every few minutes to make sure that "it" hasn't happened. If I'm at home or somewhere else with internet I will be in there constantly looking up business news. If it's a good day and they news is positive I'm alright, but if it is a bad day, where there is a negative piece of fnews I could be in some trouble and will literally make myself sick with worry.

The hard part is that because of my career I can't really get a diagnosis and I can't take medication as it would cause me to lose my FAA medical. Consequently I am probably one of the most knowledgable people around on cancer, AIDS, and lately peak oil theory. Heck, on good days I've even written hopeful essays on all the subjects, but on bad days. Yikes.
 
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:wave: I'm new round here.
I watched Oprah once and I have signs of OCH obsessive compulsive hoarder I think it was called.
Alot of it lined up. I'm a perfectionist. But I get to the point where it's like if I clean up my room it's not going to be to my standards so why try. Or the mess is overwhelming. Or I begin to clean and then find items that take me on tangents... I have SO MUCH TROUBLE throwing things away. Even trivial things. It's like will I need it for something in 6 months and regret throwing it away. Or will I want to read it again. I get quite upset when my Mum pushes me to clean up. Because I can't cope sometimes with how I am going to get everything the way it needs to be. I'm maybe not quite as extreme as some they showed on Oprah but I don't have a house yet. It's like God help me!

I would be interested to know if there are any others out there that are OCH?

Blessings Jazzcat7!
i think i do... there so much that i want to do sometimes that i get so overwhelmed and can't get anything done at all.
 
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I had never heard of OCD till a few days ago...My husband and I were watching TV and watched as my life was described to a "T"...Frightening! So no diagnosis but I definately do some strange things...

I'm a perfectionist and if it isn't perfect or I fail to make it perfect, then it just won't get done..Until theres like someone at the door and I run through with a garbage bag..My mother used to do this..

Actually the woman on tv showed her new pk of pantyhose that she'd put away..They were perfect and could be put away while everything else was all over the place....So I then got up and stepped over a basket of laundry and slid some more laundry that sat wringled on top of the dresser, to show my husband my newly bought pk of pantyhose that sat neatly in a drawer...ahhhhhhhhhh!!!

Then there's the rituals and the constant rechecking,washing,moving...I lay out everything possibly needed before I do something, such as cooking a meal or taking a shower..I'll step out of a shower several times to ensure that I have everything I could possibly need in any event taking place in that shower...And there is no stopping in the midst of cooking to find a utensil or a spice...Its just not acceptable..

I check stoves,irons,window and door locks repeatedly..I can't sleep without rechecking a door lock that I'd just locked before going to bed..I'm constanly changing my kitchen cabinets...My husband can never find a bowl or snack because I move them every few days to "organize"...I do the same with furniture...Poor man can't even find his socks half the time..

Then I have a very very very hard time giving anything away...Not necessarily because I might need it (though I do that too) but because this scrap of paper was given to me out of love by so and so..The moment I throw it away, so and so will surely die...Then when I NEED something from so and so to treasure, I won't have it...

I've lost several people in my life so this is a constant battle...It seems if I part with one single thing from someone they die the next day...

Then ofcourse it was trash day...I have gone dumpster diving in search for that something to hold onto but its never there...

So whatcha think? Am I crazy,weird, or possibly ocd?
sounds like ocd to me, im surprised that you never heard of ocd your whole life.... as a child i had ocd but never knew what ocd was, i just felt like i was weird and i kept it to myself until one day i saw a special on tv and realized... other people have this too... i felt better that i wasn't alone. have you seen the doctor? in my opinion, it sounds like you should. does your behavior affect your husband?
 
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