Any number, as long as they do not disrupt vital genes, and are not transcribed successfully to the point of creating new virions. (Like virtually all existing ERVs.)
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Any number, as long as they do not disrupt vital genes, and are not transcribed successfully to the point of creating new virions. (Like virtually all existing ERVs.)simple question: if the genome is about 100 functional, how many ervs can be add to the genome and be fixed?
I know I am repeating myself, but it appears to be necessary. The vast majority of ERV and ERV remnants that can be found in human and chimp genomes are to be found in precisely corresponding locations in the DNA of each species. As the integrase enzyme that - um - integrates retroviral DNA into the host genome cannot target specific loci, to believe that the commonality of location among all these elements is a coincidence
is beyond the bounds of credibility. That a relatively small number of ERV elements are unique to chimps or unique to humans can be easily explained by post-speciation endogenizations, or (less easy to comprehend but nevertheless a real phenomenon), incomplete lineage sorting where a preintegration site goes to fixation in one species, but the postintegration site goes to fixation in the other.
And here again is my link that explains how we can be confident that an ERV is the inherited result of a retroviral integration. Veritas: ERV FAQ: Why do virologists and geneticists think that ERVs come from retroviruses? Isn't that just supposition on their part?
Genetics and DNA science is just fine with people when the science is used to track down a murderer. But when that same science shows common decent, well, then that whole field of study is evil.
Cognitive dissonance for the win!!!!
Cognitive dissonance or refusal to accept the truth. Agreed.Exactly.
"The DNA sample was only a partial match, of poor quality, and experts at the time said they could neither say that he was guilty nor rule him out."Cognitive dissonance or refusal to accept the truth. Agreed.
DNA test jailed innocent man for murder - BBC News
But once people believe a story you can't convince them otherwise.
Well, as desperate as some may be to try and use the present state and the way things now work to explain the ervs, in my opinion it is a weak effort.even if they are non-functional the claim will be valid. because their insertions are far from random.
Cognitive dissonance or refusal to accept the truth. Agreed.
DNA test jailed innocent man for murder - BBC News
But once people believe a story you can't convince them otherwise.
The Problems With DNA Evidence and Testing - The Atlantic
Why should anyone care for your opinion?Hey that's not fair...what does ALL the evidence for AND against have to with it...you know they cannot include what causes reasonable questioning...
The ERV correspondence between you and Charlie the chimp is way more than a "partial match". Truthseekers need to shed their prejudices and presuppositions.
ERVs are evidence of a "14 mya UCA"? Who is claiming this? I've never heard of such a claim.Yes and you as well...re-write your blog to include ALL the evidence for and against,and let the readers decide for themselves (you can trust most will agree)...
Also I agree there are many such perfect matches but many of these could simply be natural parts of these independent creatures. Nothing says they are "insertions" from the imagined 14 mya UCA accept those previously convinced.
Now IF ne could produce examples of this Common Ancestor and then we could see that at onetime they were not there and later they were THEN we could KNOW these were indeed insertions and THEN we could KNOW they came from some common ancestor....
Otherwise its all just conjecture and consensus of the conjecture....
ERVs are evidence of a "14 mya UCA"? Who is claiming this? I've never heard of such a claim.
Common ancestry between chimps and humans is sufficient to falsify special creation. The rest falls like a house of cards. Once again, here is why these elements are concluded to be the inherited remains of retroviral integrations. Veritas: ERV FAQ: Why do virologists and geneticists think that ERVs come from retroviruses? Isn't that just supposition on their part?
Very hard to understand what you are trying to get at here. "Equivocate common ancestor story"? What does that mean? And "UCA" means Universal Common Ancestor". We are not talking about any UCA, but shared ERVs in what are evidently closely related species. ERVs will appear in their ancestry at various points in their past. How else to explain them?Barry once again I must apologize! I forgot you guys equivocate the Common ancestor story as well. So tell me which one we are talking about? The one right before the alleged split off for Chimps and Humans? Great...so let's compare and see if they were inserted here? Okay? Fair?
Very hard to understand what you are trying to get at here. "Equivocate common ancestor story"? What does that mean? And "UCA" means Universal Common Ancestor". We are not talking about any UCA, but shared ERVs in what are evidently closely related species. ERVs will appear in their ancestry at various points in their past. How else to explain them?
If the common ancestors of the current primates are extinct, then they are extinct. All I can do is direct you once more to my FAQ. Veritas: Endogenous Retroviruses - Frequently Asked QuestionsAnd please Barry no condescending remarks like you do not understand what I saying or asking...you know exactly what I am asking...
the fact is that the erv argument is base about belief.
we cant prove that those are indeed a viral insertions for instance.
how do you know that the opposite is true?
Unless you have another explanation for common loci?
Any number, as long as they do not disrupt vital genes, and are not transcribed successfully to the point of creating new virions. (Like virtually all existing ERVs.)
If the genome is 100% functional, why are there ERVs that are not fixed in the population?
so we need to ignore all the evidences we have and accept a belief about the past without any evidence? its not sound like a scientific method to me.Well, as desperate as some may be to try and use the present state and the way things now work to explain the ervs, in my opinion it is a weak effort.
No need to.
When anything contradicts YHWH the CREATOR, it is false.
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