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Trump lawyer cancels trip to Ukraine to get dirt on Biden

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by USincognito, May 12, 2019.

  1. USincognito

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    Joe Biden's camp responds after Giuliani's canceled trip to Ukraine - CNNPolitics

    "I just think it is highly unethical for the President's personal lawyer to go meet with officials from foreign government to see if they can influence somehow the upcoming presidential election," Warren said in Kermit, West Virginia. "We've had enough of that and Rudy Giuliani should just back off."

    Sen. Chris Murphy, who called for a Senate query on Giuliani's proposed trip to Ukraine before it was canceled, tweeted, "I know we've become numb to the corruption of this Administration, but this story should be the total focus of the political class today. The President is openly asking a foreign government to investigate his political rival. This is next level."​
     
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  2. HTacianas

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    We will not stand idly by while that sort of thing happens [when your guy does it].*




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  3. USincognito

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    Care to actually address the issue?
     
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  4. HTacianas

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    What is the issue? Exactly, I mean. Is it that Giuliani was supposed to go to Ukraine, or that he didn't go to Ukraine? Is it the Constitutional Crisis we are facing or is it not the Constitutional Crisiswe are facing?

    What seems to be the problem?
     
  5. USincognito

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    Please stop with the shtick and either address the topic of the thread or go find some other thread to disrupt.
     
  6. zephcom

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    At this stage of the game, I really don't care who the Democrats run against Trump I will vote for them.

    It breaks my heart that America has come to this.
     
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  7. KCfromNC

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    If I didn't know better, I would say this was talking about Trump's requests to Russia during one of the 2016 debates.
     
  8. LoAmmi

    LoAmmi Dispassionate

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    The shtick is all that's left, really.
     
  9. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

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    I expect better from Giuliani's. But not Trump.
     
  10. SoldierOfTheKing

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    Elizabeth Warren thinks Giuliani's trip is was unethical. You don't say.
     
  11. USincognito

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    Do you have anything substantive to contribute?
     
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    SoldierOfTheKing Christian Spenglerian

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    Do you?
     
  13. jgarden

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    Trump lawyer cancels trip to Ukraine to get dirt on Biden

    The leadership in Ukraine know that based on the polls, in 18 months Trump will be gone and Biden the next President "elect!"

    Giuliani could go to the Ukraine but cancelled to save himself the embarrassment at the prospect of its leaders avoiding him like the "plague!"
     
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  14. USincognito

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    Yeah, the OP and the issue of Giuliani going to Ukraine to get dirt on Biden. I've already contributed something of substance.

    Your turn.
     
  15. jgarden

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    When the Trump Administration decides to ignore the Legislative (Congress), 1 of the 3 co-equal branches of government as established by the Constitution, that by definition constitutes a "crisis!"

    No Branch of American government has the constitutional authority to govern the nation independent of the other branches!

    As for the Ukraine, the current polling strongly suggests that Biden will be America's next President - what are the advantages when it comes to them influencing the Presidential Election of a foreign nation for a candidate who is currently running a distant second?
     
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  16. HTacianas

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    Why is it "when the Trump administration ignores..." it is a constitutional crisis but when the Obama administration did the same thing it wasn't? The very same members of Congress bleating about some crisis were the ones who literally staged a walk out over congressional subpoenas of "their side".

    The political theater is getting dense.
     
  17. Tom Farebrother

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  18. Tom Farebrother

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    The same thing? If you mean the Trump / Russia investigation, that isn't the same thing by any stretch.
     
  19. HTacianas

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    So what is the difference between one administration ignoring a congressional subpoena and another administration ignoring a congressional subpoena? Why does one represent a constitutional crisis while the other doesn't?
     
  20. Tom Farebrother

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    I don't know what the specific issue you are referring to is.
     
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