Trump Job Approval and Fund-Raising Improve Despite Impeachment Hearings

[cow451]

I personally appreciate things that reflect reality.

Thank you. I live to serve.

 

[mark46]

I don't know why you believe this.

The majority of voters were unhappy with the president on Election Day and the day after. 62% didn't trust him. With all the questionable and untoward actions and comments, I don't the situation as being any worse for the president today, compared to the day of the election.

Yes, there are those in the suburbs who like him less. And yes, there are those who like him more because of economic results (which was a very uncertain proposition on Election Day).

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What it shows is a majority of Americans are unhappy with Trump and that impeachment is hurting him, for now. It will be interesting to see what happens in the next year, particularly once Democrats choose a true front runner (once we get through Super Tuesday or so) and they start focusing on Trump rather than fighting with each other.

 

[mark46]

Thankfully, a few Democrats understand the importance of the swing states: Biden, Klobuchar and Bloomberg. Others are more focused on their policies that, in their words, will tear our system down and build it up again.

To be very clear, the voters of the US (and certainly in the swing states) do NOT want a revolution.

I don't know why you believe this.

The majority of voters were unhappy with the president on Election Day and the day after. 62% didn't trust him. With all the questionable and untoward actions and comments, I don't the situation as being any worse for the president today, compared to the day of the election.

Yes, there are those in the suburbs who like him less. And yes, there are those who like him more because of economic results (which was a very uncertain proposition on Election Day).

 

[SimplyMe]

I don't know why you believe this.

The majority of voters were unhappy with the president on Election Day and the day after. 62% didn't trust him. With all the questionable and untoward actions and comments, I don't the situation as being any worse for the president today, compared to the day of the election.

Yes, there are those in the suburbs who like him less. And yes, there are those who like him more because of economic results (which was a very uncertain proposition on Election Day).

Not sure what I shouldn't believe, that most of the votes were cast for someone else, not Donald Trump -- even though Trump won the states to get an electoral college victory? That a majority of Americans are not happy with him? That the next election is likely to look a lot like the last one, with Trump likely losing the popular vote again -- with the question of if he can get an electoral college victory?

Not sure what I'm not supposed to believe?

 

[mark46]

I apologize for not being clear.

First, I am not trying to tell you what to believe. I only ask for "why" you believe

What it shows is a majority of Americans are unhappy with Trump and that impeachment is hurting him, for now.

I agree that a majority are unhappy with Trump. That hasn't changed since Election Day.

I see no evidence that impeachment is hurting him. In fact, because the swing states don't want impeachment, the impeachment process might be hurting Trump.

Whether Trump will lose the popular vote will depend on the candidate. Warren or Sanders would lose lots and lots of suburban and exurban votes.

Not sure what I shouldn't believe, that most of the votes were cast for someone else, not Donald Trump -- even though Trump won the states to get an electoral college victory? That a majority of Americans are not happy with him? That the next election is likely to look a lot like the last one, with Trump likely losing the popular vote again -- with the question of if he can get an electoral college victory?

Not sure what I'm not supposed to believe?

 

[SimplyMe]

I apologize for not being clear.

First, I am not trying to tell you what to believe. I only ask for "why" you believe

What it shows is a majority of Americans are unhappy with Trump and that impeachment is hurting him, for now.

I agree that a majority are unhappy with Trump. That hasn't changed since Election Day.

I see no evidence that impeachment is hurting him. In fact, because the swing states don't want impeachment, the impeachment process might be hurting Trump.

Whether Trump will lose the popular vote will depend on the candidate. Warren or Sanders would lose lots and lots of suburban and exurban votes.

Impeachment is hurting Trump because his disapproval has grown, as well as those wanting him impeached has grown. Sure, you can argue that swing states are more split but it doesn't change the national polling.

As for who the Democrats nominate, we'll see what happens. First, what will happen after the impeachment events have played out. Next, how people will respond to the Democratic candidate once they settle on a candidate.

I don't "buy into" the Republican narrative that Warren or Sanders will lose vote -- not saying it can't happen, just that I don't think it is nearly as clear as what Republicans are trying to claim. There have been some interesting polls that a majority of Americans want health care solutions, and they aren't necessarily opposed to some type of "Medicare for all" system and other "socialist" programs. It will be interesting to see who the Democrats nominate.

 

[mark46]

Thank you for you clarifications.

This may indeed be a Republican narrative. Trump has often said that he would welcome running against Warren or Sanders.

It is ALSO the narrative of Pelosi and Obama. I understand that those on the left have little interest in their opinions. I live is SC; we'll vote in the first month. Let me assure you that the opinions of Pelosi and Obama matter among Democrats in SC.

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I don't "buy into" the Republican narrative that Warren or Sanders will lose vote -- not saying it can't happen, just that I don't think it is nearly as clear as what Republicans are trying to claim..

 

[SimplyMe]

Thank you for you clarifications.

This may indeed be a Republican narrative. Trump has often said that he would welcome running against Warren or Sanders.

It is ALSO the narrative of Pelosi and Obama. I understand that those on the left have little interest in their opinions. I live is SC; we'll vote in the first month. Let me assure you that the opinions of Pelosi and Obama matter among Democrats in SC.

Just as the Republican leadership's opinions were against Trump during the primaries. I'll agree, there is a huge divide in the Democratic party right now, between the left wing and those that are more Centrist. I do suspect, at least based on the 2018 results, that Democrats have learned that they can't stay home if there favorite candidate isn't nominated -- though we shall see in 2020.

The big question is what Independents might do, which is (of course) the big question in every election. Again, though, what I've seen is that Independents are not as afraid of "socialism" (using the Republican definition, which is actually more Capitalism with a strong safety net) as what many are claiming -- particularly with the major issues with health care in the US. I think a major issue will be how candidates will pay for anything they propose -- particularly with Trump currently having roughly a trillion dollar annual budget deficit.

 

[Tiberius Lee]

If President Trump is re-elected , do you think he will continue the policy he is doing now? Republican might wake up after Nov 2020 and realize their beloved president is a liberal. Other then Immigration and Trade policy , President Trump is more of a democrat then republicans. Today he needs evangelical vote so he chant how much he loves God and Christian. The man never went to church before running for election, the man never asked God for forgiveness… and you think if he is re-elected and never have to ask for vote, he will continue evangelical issue? I hardly doubt. President Trump, most of his life supported Democrats and their policy, you think when he is done running for election he will still stick with conservatives value.. John Bolton gave a speech recently and in that he said if president Trump is re-elected his daughter and son will nominate liberal judges, President Trump will pull out from NATO and every other conservatives value.. .. I don’t want him to win.. but if he does .. it will be interesting to see how republican react to New Trump!

 

[KCfromNC]

OK, but the larger point is that Trump isn't being hurt by the impeachment proceedings.

Latest polls say a majority think he should be removed from office.
I mean, yeah, a minority of true believers hasn't yet started pretending they never supported him, but do they really matter?