Tools far pre date man, evolution theory kicked in face

[dad]

I am sorry to burst your bubble, but there are animals today who use tools.

Of course. But there is a difference in our tools and theirs. Duh.

Go through a forest or a jungle sometime. Look for animal tools! Now go through New York..look for human ones.

 

[dad]

Where in the pic are the tools?

 

[dad]

We know that these ancestors existed and had hands with which they could have made tools.

Having hands does not make one Einstein.

We know that no other lineage on Earth produced animals that were able to create tools. So yes, it's easy to deduce that whichever ancestors were around at the time made the tools. As you said, it's not like aliens made them.

Man was created, not produced by a monkey lineage. That is sick imagination.

I don't think I know a single Christian who disagrees with evolution or thinks that it conflicts with Christianity, so I don't see your point.

Get out more.

There's no need to deny evolution. It's not a threat to you. Theistic evolutionists fully embrace the concept of God's will guiding Creation and the evolution of mankind.

I don't deny evolution. It is merely a created trait that God gave Adam and creatures. There was no evolution of mankind before Adam though. That is pagan nonsense.

 

[dad]

Termites make their mounds to form air conditioning via air currents. Their building skills definitely surpass those of a human, and they do it on instinct. But I was thinking of apes, birds, and dolphins, which actually shape and reuse tools they make.

God's amazing creation. But I can tell an ant house from a man made house. I can tell a clovis arrow head from a rock someone teaches a monkey to smash nuts with.

 

[TLK Valentine]

God's amazing creation. But I can tell an ant house from a man made house. I can tell a clovis arrow head from a rock someone teaches a monkey to smash nuts with.

That remains to be seen...

 

[TheBear]

Where in the pic are the tools?

If there was ever an example of willful ignorance and stubborn denial, this is it.

 

[Cearbhall]

Having hands does not make one Einstein.

All you need is to reach a certain point of intelligence to create such tools. It seems this point was reached earlier than we thought.

Man was created, not produced by a monkey lineage. That is sick imagination.

Correct, we not are descended from monkeys. We share common ancestors with them. It would indeed be a gross error to teach that we are descended from monkeys.

Get out more.

I'm talking about my peers at a Catholic university, and also my Catholic high school. Majority are Catholic. Most are Christian. And I get out plenty. It's 2015. The majority of Christians simply know better.

 

[AV1611VET]

All you need is to reach a certain point of intelligence to create such tools.

Then, when our intelligence grows and grows and grows and grows, until millennia later, we have the Internet, we can get on it and complain that some countries are lagging behind others in science.

It seems the United States gave the world the Internet just in time to find out the United States is some 26th place in the area of smarts.

 

[lesliedellow]

I don't think I know a single Christian who disagrees with evolution or thinks that it conflicts with Christianity,

That's because you are currently outside of the US. Wait until you get back home.

 

[Cearbhall]

That's because you are currently outside of the US. Wait until you get back home.

No, that's not why. I've only been gone for a few months. I go to Catholic school/university. I'm fairly confident of the ratio of Creationists to "evolutionists" among the Christians that I know.

I concede that I can remember one person who at the beginning of university thought that the Earth was 6,000 years old. It's a pity that anyone can get through high school in a first-world country without being thoroughly convinced otherwise. I doubt she still thinks that after 3 years of higher education, though.

 

[lesliedellow]

It seems the United States gave the world the Internet just in time to find out the United States is some 26th place in the area of smarts.

I think you will find that the web was invented by a Briton working at CERN.

 

[AV1611VET]

I think you will find that the web was invented by a Briton working at CERN.

Until I do, my point stands.

 

[lesliedellow]

Until I do, my point stands.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee

 

[Cearbhall]

Until I do, my point stands.

 

[AV1611VET]

The world wide web is the Internet now, is it?

When did that happen?

 

[Cearbhall]

The world wide web is the Internet now, is it?

When did that happen?

True, but the Internet itself isn't going to let you know how the US ranks in academics, so we assumed you meant the WWW.

 

[lesliedellow]

The world wide web is the Internet now, is it?

When did that happen?

Without the web the internet wouldn't be one tenth as important as it is today.

 

[AV1611VET]

Without the web the internet wouldn't be one tenth as important as it is today.

How does that mitigate my point?

 

[AV1611VET]

True, but the Internet itself isn't going to let you know how the US ranks in academics, so we assumed you meant the WWW.

Meaning you assume I meant Sir Tim Berners-Lee, instead of Dan Quayle; and the Britons, instead of us Yankees?

 

[lesliedellow]

How does that mitigate my point?

See Crarbhall's post above. Before the web, Usenet was probably the cutting edge of internet technology.