Tools far pre date man, evolution theory kicked in face

[davedajobauk]

So where is your proof (evidence) ????
If anyone has a problem.... it cannot be you ?
Because you, are "undefeated"
LOL

Undefeated, is quite a claim to make ?
Some, might believe it to be meglomaniacal (even, egotistical)

Proof that your science so called is godless?
Show us Jesus in science? Show us creation?
Proof science claims about origins are hot empty air?
Just try to defend them!
Yes, I am undefeated. You could be too....
as hard as that may be to realize now looking at your cheap petty chatter.

LOL ... I do so wish that you would support your 'innuendo', with EVIDENCE
You seem to escape 'doing-so' with your 'every reply'
~not-answering 'direct questions and, quotations' (AT-ALL)
but, by simply; requiring of irrefutable evidence, when you have NONE to support your own beliefs

Whereas, respondents show links, to peer reviewed material and
what is becoming General Knowledge ~the basis for understanding

God gave us, the ability to assess / compare / learn / understand and assert meaning

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Rusting could be costly to a society that used it.

It eats away at the iron, causing it to decay.

Prior to the Fall (or the Split), there was no death or decay.Oxidation of iron, I suppose

I'm not sure.

Was Mars red back then? It is read because of the iron oxide of the soil.

 

[davedajobauk]

Iron 'oxidises' in the presence of oxygen
(oxygen, is a constituent of water / air)
So, any oxidising of iron; in Martian Soil
happened 'historically' (in the presence of water / oxygen)
Which also implies; that Mars, has had, an atmosphere

 

[dad]

Undefeated, is quite a claim to make ?
Some, might believe it to be meglomaniacal (even, egotistical)

Others might realize that greater is He that is in us than he that is in so called science!

LOL ... I do so wish that you would support your 'innuendo', with EVIDENCE
You seem to escape 'doing-so' with your 'every reply'
~not-answering 'direct questions and, quotations' (AT-ALL)
but, by simply; requiring of irrefutable evidence, when you have NONE to support your own beliefs

Moan moan groan groan? There is no evidence for the claimed nature that ALL creation models in science are based on. So you don't warrant any to refute what cannot be supported.

Whereas, respondents show links, to peer reviewed material and
what is becoming General Knowledge ~the basis for understanding

The trick is not just to link but to think. Heck some posters stink. Try to dig up a link to support something that is not based on faith alone. Cut the dramatics.

God gave us, the ability to assess / compare / learn / understand and assert meaning

He gave us His word and Jesus to know how and what to compare stuff with also.

 

[dad]

Because it was a different-state past.

Red sun, perpetual motion, no death, etc.*

* Dad may not agree with these, our mileage may vary.

Why a red sun..I assume you are talking about the garden of eden era?

The different state past refers to the time right on up to the days of Peleg, so there was death a plenty. But maybe we can get rid of oxidation or the sun color if you have a good reason

 

[dad]

Iron 'oxidises' in the presence of oxygen
(oxygen, is a constituent of water / air)
So, any oxidising of iron; in Martian Soil
happened 'historically' (in the presence of water / oxygen)
Which also implies; that Mars, has had, an atmosphere

It may imply flood waters ended up there and that oxidizing was in this nature..

 

[dad]

Iron 'oxidises' in the presence of oxygen
(oxygen, is a constituent of water / air)
So, any oxidising of iron; in Martian Soil
happened 'historically' (in the presence of water / oxygen)
Which also implies; that Mars, has had, an atmosphere

The main issue is the loss of electrons. That involves forces and laws...get it?

 

[AV1611VET]

As science has revealed: >>>>> Bronze, came first

Please show me bronze in the Bible.

 

[davedajobauk]

davedajobauk said: ↑
As science has revealed: >>>>> Bronze, came first

Please show me bronze in the Bible.

I go to SPECSAVERS

http://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Bronze

 

[Kylie]

Because it was a different-state past.

Red sun, perpetual motion, no death, etc.*

* Dad may not agree with these, our mileage may vary.

So what particular law of nature did not apply that stopped iron from oxidising? Did oxygen function differently? Did Iron function differently? If so, how? Was it something different to either of these?

 

[AV1611VET]

So what particular law of nature did not apply that stopped iron from oxidising? Did oxygen function differently? Did Iron function differently? If so, how? Was it something different to either of these?

Beats me.

 

[JacksBratt]

Was Mars red back then? It is read because of the iron oxide of the soil.

Where did the oxygen come from, for mars, which is in space, has no atmosphere, to oxidize the iron?

 

[AV1611VET]

Why a red sun..I assume you are talking about the garden of eden era?

Correct.

If the garden of Eden area was in [what is now] China, note that the Japanese flag depicts a red sun.

 

[dad]

Correct.

If the garden of Eden area was in [what is now] China, note that the Japanese flag depicts a red sun.

Ok. But what led you to that conclusion? How would it matter? I think Asia was post flood.....so how would they have known what Eden's sun was like?

 

[AV1611VET]

Ok. But what led you to that conclusion? How would it matter? I think Asia was post flood.....so how would they have known what Eden's sun was like?

What do you mean you think Asia was post-flood?

Asia existed long before the Flood.

If you mean the Asians -- yes, you're correct.

The Asians came after the Flood.

But if Noah carried documentation of a red sun on to the Ark, then the Japanese may have picked up on it later when they came into existence (i.e., in the time of the early Sinites) and incorporated it on to their flag.

 

[davedajobauk]

Where did the oxygen come from, for mars, which is in space, has no atmosphere, to oxidize the iron?

Your 'guess' is as good as anyone's I suppose
It is being assumed
# that an 'atmosphere' existed, around Mars historically

due, to the oxidation that has been identified on the surface​

# that oceans of water existed also, according to, geological assessment of sedimentary rock strata

and which maybe someday 'proven', beyond any doubt​

I accept, that atmosphere and oceans, were simply blown away, by the solar wind when
Mars' gravity-engine, stalled

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Your 'guess' is as good as anyone's I suppose
It is being assumed
# that an 'atmosphere' existed, around Mars historically

due, to the oxidation that has been identified on the surface​

# that oceans of water existed also, according to, geological assessment of sedimentary rock strata

and which maybe someday 'proven', beyond any doubt​

I accept, that atmosphere and oceans, were simply blown away, by the solar wind when
Mars' gravity-engine, stalled

Huh? Mars has a gravity engine that can/did stall?

Mars is just smaller and therefore of less gravity, that's all.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

What do you mean you think Asia was post-flood?

Asia existed long before the Flood.

If you mean the Asians -- yes, you're correct.

The Asians came after the Flood.

But if Noah carried documentation of a red sun on to the Ark, then the Japanese may have picked up on it later when they came into existence (i.e., in the time of the early Sinites) and incorporated it on to their flag.

There is no definitive YEC geology. One will say Asia was post flood; another will say it was there before. The YEC geological studies are all result of pure invention, unconstrained by whats really there in the ground. Indeed, some YEC's will glory in their ability to disconnect their ideas from such mundane things as evidence.

 

[AV1611VET]

There is no definitive YEC geology. One will say Asia was post flood; another will say it was there before. The YEC geological studies are all result of pure invention, unconstrained by whats really there in the ground. Indeed, some YEC's will glory in their ability to disconnect their ideas from such mundane things as evidence.

I'm not a YEC, so I don't know where they stand on Flood geology.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

I'm not a YEC, so I don't know where they stand on Flood geology.

Well, I count you as YEC because you assert the earth has no actual billions of years of age but was created 6000 years ago with embedded age. So that's enough for me to give you the name.