Tools far pre date man, evolution theory kicked in face

[morse86]

You should not minimize the housing skills of birds.

So Paul, you see a picture supposedly of a complex bird nest built by a bird and you magically believe it?!?!? Have you confirmed that it wasn't built by some evolutionist with an agenda?!?!?

How about we prove all things according to the bible.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

So Paul, you see a picture supposedly of a complex bird nest built by a bird and you magically believe it?!?!? Have you confirmed that it wasn't built by some evolutionist with an agenda?!?!?

How about we prove all things according to the bible.

We should prove all things according to reality, including the way we understand the Bible.

 

[morse86]

We should prove all things according to reality, including the way we understand the Bible.

No, prove all things according to the word of God. "Reality" is of the world. The word of God is not up for intepretation by the world.

1 Thessalonians 5:21:
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

You weren't there when that bird built the nest. All you have is a picture. You believe BY FAITH that bird built that nest based on a picture.

The word of God tells us 3 important things about Satan. He is the "God" of this world...the "worldly reality" is based of. He is the master of deception. He deceived the whole world (yes past tense).

Do you not think he cannot setup these hoaxes?!? That's why we prove all things by the word of God....not by the "reality" of the world.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

No, prove all things according to the word of God. "Reality" is of the world. The word of God is not up for intepretation by the world.

1 Thessalonians 5:21:
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

You weren't there when that bird built the nest. All you have is a picture. You believe BY FAITH that bird built that nest based on a picture.

The word of God tells us 3 important things about Satan. He is the "God" of this world...the "worldly reality" is based of. He is the master of deception. He deceived the whole world (yes past tense).

Do you not think he cannot setup these hoaxes?!? That's why we prove all things by the word of God....not by the "reality" of the world.

Are you seriously under the impression this was not made by a bird?
Have you heard about the housing construction skills of bower birds?

 

[morse86]

Are you seriously under the impression this was not made by a bird?
Have you heard about the housing construction skills of bower birds?

Look at the picture. Do you think that type of bird really builds its nest on the ground in a jungle full of predators? It even goes against common sense.

Next you will tell us you believe the "Big Bang Theory" because you heard of it or saw some pictures (artist renderings) of it.


When you "hear" of it from the world, When you "read" of it from the world, IT'S BY FAITH you believe. You weren't there.

Look at this scientist admit that 90% of medical science is wrong (Lookup Peter Duesberg, David Rasnick, Malcolm Kendrick etc):
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/11/lies-damned-lies-and-medical-science/308269/

The whole world believes in medical literacture that is 90% wrong BY FAITH.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Look at the picture. Do you think that type of bird really builds its nest on the ground in a jungle full of predators? It even goes against common sense.

Next you will tell us you believe the "Big Bang Theory" because you heard of it or saw some pictures (artist renderings) of it.


When you "hear" of it from the world, When you "read" of it from the world, IT'S BY FAITH you believe. You weren't there.

Here, read all about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowerbird

Its not a fake. Bower birds really do build such elaborate structures.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Here, read all about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowerbird

Its not a fake. Bower birds really do build such elaborate structures.

Would anyone like to see a picture of the big bang?

 

[morse86]

Here, read all about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowerbird

Its not a fake. Bower birds really do build such elaborate structures.

Have you personally seen a Bower bird build such a structure and live in it?!?!?!?!? Eitherwise, it's by FAITH you believe it!

 

[Subduction Zone]

Look at the picture. Do you think that type of bird really builds its nest on the ground in a jungle full of predators? It even goes against common sense.

Next you will tell us you believe the "Big Bang Theory" because you heard of it or saw some pictures (artist renderings) of it.


When you "hear" of it from the world, When you "read" of it from the world, IT'S BY FAITH you believe. You weren't there.

Look at this scientist admit that 90% of medical science is wrong (Lookup Peter Duesberg, David Rasnick, Malcolm Kendrick etc):
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/11/lies-damned-lies-and-medical-science/308269/

The whole world believes in medical literacture that is 90% wrong BY FAITH.

Australia and New Guinea do have predators, but I would not say that their "jungles" are full of them. Predators are greatly outnumbered by prey in any environment, think about it.

 

[crjmurray]

Have you personally seen a Bower bird build such a structure and live in it?!?!?!?!? Eitherwise, it's by FAITH you believe it!

Does anyone know for sure that Hawaii exists?!?!?!

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Have you personally seen a Bower bird build such a structure and live in it?!?!?!?!? Eitherwise, it's by FAITH you believe it!

Well, all I've got is multiple reports from various scientific works and lots of pictures. What's wrong with believing them to be true?

If you're trying to make some kind of abstract point that we have to have a "faith" in ordinary things, even, and not just religious things, well I won't argue with that.

But if you're trying to tell me that bower birds and their nests aren't real, you're simply denying reality. It is not an evangelistic technique I advise you to continue to use.

 

[dad]

You should not minimize the housing skills of birds.

OK. How about their stone weapon manufacturing skills?

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

OK. How about their stone weapon manufacturing skills?

None that I'm aware of.

 

[dad]

None that I'm aware of.

Ok

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Does anyone know for sure that Hawaii exists?!?!?!

Well, I took a plane that was scheduled to get to Hawaii, and I arrived at an Island where there inhabitants said it was Hawaii . . . so I'm pretty sure it exists.

 

[crjmurray]

Well, I took a plane that was scheduled to get to Hawaii, and I arrived at an Island where there inhabitants said it was Hawaii . . . so I'm pretty sure it exists.

Yeah that's what I'd expect you to say. You're clearly in on the evoatheistillumanitiobamabigbanghawaii- conspiracy.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Yeah that's what I'd expect you to say. You're clearly in on the evoatheistillumanitiobamabigbanghawaii- conspiracy.

Hey, I'm not an atheist!

 

[crjmurray]

Hey, I'm not an atheist!

That's exactly what I'd expect you to say.

 

[davedajobauk]

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I made, no mention of "monkey men" (you did)
When I made mention, of 'ancestors' (above) did I mention 'sub-humans' ? (no, I didn't)

yes I did. That is because they claim apes are our ancestors, and we came from them...
or some ape like ancestor or whatever bull they prefer.

"THEY" are not I....... >> I should not be 'tarred with the same brush'

I am guessing, but, I really feel, that we need, a different view of the 'clock'
in order to understand the chronology of history > back before it could be recorded, in writings
Somewhat more difficult to ascertain, is apparent

The clock? Is anyone supposed to know what this means besides you?

Sure !
all along, I have suggested (implied) that the sequence (of known / mentioned events) are
incomplete and remain unestablished, as fact
That the 'chronology of man' (incl. known events) remains, beyond our present (incomplete) knowledge
We start with the Biblical Adam......... @ 7,000 years / 5,000 years BC
BUT, there are, 'much older' remains, of Homo~ and their tools, becoming found and identified [a FACT]
Any suggestion, that they were 'built-in' (inclusions) is entirely naff

I never did get 'a handle' upon the mention, of, "Ezekiels Wheels" did you ?

Yes.

Well, that was brief and inexplicit (?) <not to say ~"saying nothing"
Maybe, it was man's first sight of 'wheels' (of any description)
The more-surprising that they were identified as such (?)

and if I understand my 'history' correctly.... The wheel, was invented .......... when ?

Why do you ask? Should we also wonder if chariots had wheels?
You seem to like to talk as if you are saying something when you are saying nothing.

'Chronology' (TIMING) has a purposeful part to play
in the understanding of everything ....(chicken and the egg)
Here, I refer to the difference between 7,000 and 3.5 million years

 

[dad]

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"THEY" are not I....... >> I should not be 'tarred with the same brush'

OK, so you believe that Jesus created man as the bible says, rather than man evolved from animals? Why wiggle?

Sure !
all along, I have suggested (implied) that the sequence (of known / mentioned events) are
incomplete and remain unestablished, as fact
That the 'chronology of man' (incl. known events) remains, beyond our present (incomplete) knowledge
We start with the Biblical Adam......... @ 7,000 years / 5,000 years BC
BUT, there are, 'much older' remains, of Homo~ and their tools, becoming found and identified [a FACT]
Any suggestion, that they were 'built-in' (inclusions) is entirely naff

I am suggesting your dates are wrong. There are no older remains. Your dates are based solely on the assumption that present nature is what we can use to model the far past. The dates are no better than the unproven belief that the past was the same.

Well, that was brief and inexplicit (?) <not to say ~"saying nothing"
Maybe, it was man's first sight of 'wheels' (of any description)
The more-surprising that they were identified as such (?)

God was way out in front. No news there. Chariots are mentioned before this, they have wheels you know.

'Chronology' (TIMING) has a purposeful part to play
in the understanding of everything ....(chicken and the egg)
Here, I refer to the difference between 7,000 and 3.5 million years

You refer to dates based on beliefs. Quit treating them with any reality or seriousness, they are bogus.