Thoughts ...

[Noxot]

the Trinity is like three trees that grew out of the ocean and they are all united but all themselves. God is full of contradictions, so much so that they are super-united in him. there is nothing that can fully describe God, everything only point towards him, he is always more.

 

[Noxot]

we can only speak about God secondarily as we are reflections of the original reality, like expanding bubbles rejoicing forever in God. I can speak to other bubbles but primarily God is not about words or thoughts or what i say he is, as he is saying what he is to me forever and to all of us and there are probably no end to the number of children that God has.

we contradict God with logic of a brain that is a little bit greater than animals and less than that of angels... as if we could ever speak of God, but we can know him as much as we are with him because we have spirits that are playing with his Spirit.

'spirit' is primal reality. minds are more kin to what reality is than the modern worlds materialistic beliefs, which believes that the laws of the universe are what reality is... rather than the laws of the universe being parameters that God uses to create this kind of reality.

 

[Hoghead1]

the Trinity is like three trees that grew out of the ocean and they are all united but all themselves. God is full of contradictions, so much so that they are super-united in him.

I disagree. God is not full of contradictions, the church fathers were, when it came to the trinity. That's the problem. Too much is written off to the mystery of God, when in point of fact, these "mysteries" of God are just a big cover-up for muddled thinking on the part of the fathers. Example: The fathers basically thought of God as a wholly immaterial, simple, immutable, nonrelational entity, a monad. Then they turned around and tried to introduce the highly complex, relational machinery of the Trinity into this monad. The result: confusion and contradiction.

 

[Noxot]

God is like three trees growing out of the ocean of fire and sweet love, he is a schizo but he is completely sane, he has lots of thoughts, so many that he is lost and can't think at all for he is captivated by his own beauty, who is his other self, who is his same self, who he loves and can't let go of. the trees and the ocean are the same for the ocean is his roots and the foundation, his own foundation and he holds his cells up to be burned forever. and his cells are like, quantumly entangled and they go hither an thither. and they say one to another, 'holy holy holy for ever and ever.' and it is as all three trees are all standing in the same space, inside the ocean for the air is the ocean too and somehow the trees are compressed forever but don't die for all is stable in this perfection. and the weight of the crushing love is too much to take just as much as it is a relief. God is insane and frightful, the angel wish they did not exist as they stand before him, the sight of him is not able to b bared, the highest angel faint and die at his face. they go in and out of existence before God, for the Lord perseveres them by giving them his life. I don't know how to describe God.

 

[Noxot]

to me multiple and one are the exact same thing but I find that human reasoning thinks that contradictions rule over God rather than vaguely point at him according to their capacity. God is like a whirlwind that does no harm to good ones but he destroy all evils and they don't know what happened to them. look at God, he is the perfect diamond with facets, each fact an eye, but ah, no, that was the reflection of God in the face of an angel. God, where are you? God who are you?

 

[Noxot]

mysticism is beyond reason and reason gets swallowed up by it and transmuted into the reasoning of God. I can't believe someone thinks i can tell them who God is! the full capacity of the body can not know God as he is, why do we think a limited part of our brain that we call "reason" thinks it can know God? what is the animals mind designed for? it is designed for animal things. what is the spirit designed for? for the higher things in an earthen vessel to know. how can I speak about something that is before everything else?

God is a mystery just like i'm a mystery. people who have no darkness have no light either, for they reduce everything to puddles when God is endless. science can reduce the entire universe to a few equation and they think they can do the same with God.

 

[Noxot]

to not know is higher knowledge than to know and slowly the darkness becomes light only to be swallowed up by more bright light. for all eternity God has looked at himself, for all eternity God has communicated his thoughts inside of himself of himself. no words and no silence will say who God is. God is not a thing, he can not be described. is he beyond everything that we speak of him and forever pulling us to him. i'm sorry but I don't know what you expect from me, if you wanna know God then go ask him yourself, because I have been asking it for a lot now, and for most of my life all I do is try to be with God and I am tormented existing as an animal that does worthless things that humans think has meaning and purpose, for I know that they are insane and lost which is why they do what they do and if I could, if I was allowed, I would go and eat poison hemlock right now just so i can be closer to God, for I would die if I ate it. but this is madness, to exist as a creature and to think you have no reason to be. God shall not let it be forever and neither shall his children.

I know God vaguely, mostly by loving him and trying to direct myself to him. I will not eat food for a while so just i can feel hungry towards him and I will stay up for long hours just to be weary to know him. I will later try to not think for hours and when I go to work I will keep saying "red" in my mind so it does not think too many stupid and worthless thoughts of things that don't matter. if you really want to speak about God then go seek him out in ways that you think God tells you to do, because I can't help anyone.

I try to find God everywhere, more people should look for God in more places.

 

[toLiJC]

I only speak from experience and from the authority of those who have had such experiences. the word "mysticism" is constantly slandered, it has been for a while now and I get sick of it. mysticism is to love and seek after God and people who have a different opinion of what it means probably rightly hate the word.

faith means faith, and love means love, while mysticism means mysticism, spirituality means spirituality, religiosity means religiosity, etc., why is there no spirituality nor religiosity recommended as holy by true Prophets/Saints in the biblical scriptures, but They speak of faith, love and righteousness?!, there are even no such terms as "spirituality" and "religiosity" in the Bible at all

Blessings

 

[Nym]

My dad has always said to me, that Adam names everything.

People endeavor to find outside of themselves what they already have inside of themselves, which is like being lead by a serpent/facsimile, that this type of conformity will erase the chaos the world presently is experiencing as normal, that somehow knowledge will make you into something you are not now.

"Solomon understood it, but as something that was not him. Jesus understood it as him, and those who came after him made it only about him leaving the pit open."

 

[Nym]

mystic

Blessings

Who invented this word I wonder, and when they did, were they trying to describe something that conformed to their perception of what was right, or wrong, because it did or did not line up with what they believed was acceptable, which is the verbal going around and around the mountain until all such thoughts in us as individuals die out.

"It's a soul thing, and as long as you are snared by it you will not understand it as something you live in."

 

[toLiJC]

My dad has always said to me, that Adam names everything.

People endeavor to find outside of themselves what they already have inside of themselves, which is like being lead by a serpent/facsimile, that this type of conformity will erase the chaos the world presently is experiencing as normal, that somehow knowledge will make you into something you are not now.

"Solomon understood it, but as something that was not him. Jesus understood it as him, and those who came after him made it only about him leaving the pit open."

Who invented this word I wonder, and when they did, were they trying to describe something that conformed to their perception of what was right, or wrong, because it did or did not line up with what they believed was acceptable, which is the verbal going around and around the mountain until all such thoughts in us as individuals die out.

"It's a soul thing, and as long as you are snared by it you will not understand it as something you live in."

there is one thing that people need, namely love, but the system of spiritual iniquity and human religion found many excuses to aggrandize itself, especially by asserting the supposed need of knowledge - the victim just wouldn't want to be hurt/harmed, while knowledge doesn't solve their problem, thousands of frail children needed nourishment, while knowledge did not feed them...

Blessings

 

[Nym]

there is one thing that people need, namely love, but the system of spiritual iniquity and human religion found many excuses to aggrandize itself, especially by asserting the supposed need of knowledge - the victim just wouldn't want to be hurt/harmed, while knowledge doesn't solve their problem, thousands of frail children needed nourishment, while knowledge did not feed them...

Blessings

Love is the truth, and then there is knowledge of this love.

 

[Nym]

Rest, it is past the outer court, and it is past the holy place; which for us is past the soul, and is part of the process of losing our soul as the place where we go past, when it comes to the journey inwards.

Rest happens when our soul enters into where she came out of, but it is not something that we have to wait for, it is what is, when we wait for it.

 

[FredVB]

God is in reality truly unknowable. It can be understood that from what is seen of creation there is one God who is the Creator. Yet we can know God, in the sense of a relationship with God, though knowing nothing of how God would appear to us should God choose to be manifest before us. It would be through the revelation of Yahweh, who is the one God, shown to us, with what is known of God through that, and it is made possible through Christ, indeed one God, as one being, existing though in three offices of function, and this coming through in the revelation that is shown, with unity as the one being without any conflict between them, of the heavenly Father, Christ who is Logos the Word with God who is God in the incarnation as the Son of God, and the Spirit of God.

 

[jugghead]

..... though knowing nothing of how God would appear to us should God choose to be manifest before us. .....

Sorry to say this ..... but this statement does not make sense to me, if Christ Himself said "If you have seen Me, you have seen the Father" ..... how can we not know what He would manifest as before us?

 

[Noxot]

I don't know when the word 'mystic' started to be used. I wonder what all the words for such terms mean since different saints spoke different languages though there are clumps of greek saints and clumps of latin saints and ect.

well the greek version has been around for a while but I don't know which saint or group started to use the term 'mystic' in the christian sense.

 

[Noxot]

faith means faith, and love means love, while mysticism means mysticism, spirituality means spirituality, religiosity means religiosity, etc., why is there no spirituality nor religiosity recommended as holy by true Prophets/Saints in the biblical scriptures, but They speak of faith, love and righteousness?!, there are even no such terms as "spirituality" and "religiosity" in the Bible at all

Blessings

the bible is full of religious stuff. do the saints do things that they do not recommend? religion is not bad in and of itself.

moses, ezekiel, ezra, paul, john, peter.... they were all religious. they did religious things.

ofc the Spirit matters, that is what being Spiritual means... it means living the higher life. I think church and that kind of stuff is good for some types of souls. true religion is just real life. it is not right to accuse something if it is innocent and when you lump categories like 'religious' or 'spiritual' and condemn them fully... then all i see is massive bloodshed and the fighting of many nations. you probably don't even condemn them fully, I would hope.

but yeah, one day if enough people are willing, the earth will have no more churches, no more governments, no more economies and who knows what else they will and won't have.

Rev 21:22-26 (YLT)
And a sanctuary I did not see in it, for the Lord God, the Almighty, is its sanctuary, and the Lamb, and the city hath no need of the sun, nor of the moon, that they may shine in it; for the glory of God did lighten it, and the lamp of it is the Lamb; and the nations of the saved in its light shall walk, and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it, and its gates shall not at all be shut by day, for night shall not be there; and they shall bring the glory and the honour of the nations into it;

looks like God demands from all the nations - gifts. so I think we are allowed to use any words we want. I can take anything from any nation that is good. I can eat of any tree in the garden. most of us got Pharisee and tax collectors and all other kinds of sinners that want to make us like they are. i'm either doing what is right or i'm doing what is wrong.

 

[Nym]

The word spirit runs a gambit when clothed by a tree.

 

[Nym]

"Every God has his own language."

 

[Noxot]

I wonder how far along the other humans are on the other planets in our universe. I wonder what is possible for this universe and if it will somehow change from being a place where creatures die and eat one another or if the universe will always be mortal. or I wonder what else God wanted to do with this universe. swedenborg said that there were aliens in heaven, it makes life more exciting and hopeful for things to come.

I wonder what this universe will look like 1 trillion years from now, if it plans to be around how it is.